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Wolves in ND.

by , Posted to on 02/04/2010 10:40 AM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/14/2009
Location: MT
I didn't know they even considered releasing wolves in the Badlands.  How dumb must you be to even consider it. I do remember hearing about the sharpshooters being possibly brought in or has the culling begun??

http://www.billingsgazette.com/lifestyles/recreation/article_d279e2cc-113a-11df-9d6a-001cc4c002e0.html
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by on 02/04/2010 12:04 PM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 06/22/2005
Location: ND
This is the most disturbing news i have heard yet, we do not want them flippin' killers in this state. Look at the debacle going on in montana right now, everyday in the papers across that state is an article about declining big game populations and the FWP says it is because of hard winters and other excuses and they will never mention wolves, if you want to see hunting in ND as we know it end, bring them bastards in, they are good for nothing but killing, just the word wolves makes my fricken blood boil. I bet if you would ask hunttomuch he may have some more insight on this beings he lives out there.
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by on 02/04/2010 12:31 PM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/13/2007
Location: ND
Wolves, being from wisconsin ive seen plenty even in my deerstand and when they howl about 40yards from your stand its a gut wrenching feeling.6 years ago up in divide county by the sascatchewan border we were pheasant hunting and popped through one slough up onto hill goin down into another a big cold black wolf busted out and ran through the prarie so they are in north dakota maybe just a few but that is the worst thing that can happen to the wonderful state of Nodak.Dont let it happen these wolves have been cleaning out our deer populations every where we hunt here in northern wisconsin it sucks.When you see more wolf tracks than deer tracks something is wrong.Good ol DNR and there population numbers are way off.

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by on 02/04/2010 12:43 PM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 05/24/2008
Location: Mo
Might want to check out the Moose populations near Yellowstone and see just how many are left after the wolf was reinderduced.   Blame the DNR and the State's G&F all you want but most of the time thier hands are tied with lawsutes from groups like the HSUS.    HSUS has a good foot hole in ND already.

Do you really believe sharpshooters will get the chance to shot an ELK in the park? 

It is a good bet  that a program to bring in the wolves to ND sooner than you think!! 

 
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by on 02/04/2010 12:51 PM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/01/2004
Location: ND
 I believe that we (most ND sportsmen and ranchers) would share the same mentality as those in Wis.,northern Mn. and a few other states... that's the S.S.S concept.  Shoot, Shovel, and Shut-up.

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by on 02/04/2010 12:55 PM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/19/2005
Location: MN
 I think your a little paranoid about the wolves. Read the study they did up in northern minn. They tagged a bunch of deer and wolves and found out they weren't killing near as many as people thought......even in the deep snow.
How bout the Grizzly Bears along the Missouri that use to live there. If they introduced them back to the area would you freak. Hope you don't have any nightmares tonight

We had a record breaking flood last spring across the state. One of the most brutal winters that lasted 6 months. Are you that ignoramus. Last years winter killed off a lot of the oldest and youngest deer and the calving season was very poor. It was last years winter!!!!
 
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by on 02/04/2010 12:55 PM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/21/2001
Location: ND
For those that think there are not wolves already in ND, here is some proof.  We have seen this wolf on more than one occasion, and there is actually a small pack of them that are living up where we hunt.  The first picture is of the wolf, he is a little hard to see since he is all black.  The second picture is of a coyote at the same distance in the same place. 

It is a little interesting, that these things are on the move, and don't mind the conditions in the prairie either.  So now what are we as North Dakotans going to do about the situation?





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by on 02/04/2010 1:03 PM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 05/24/2008
Location: Mo
Ruffed Man Said:
 I think your a little paranoid about the wolves. Read the study they did up in northern minn. They tagged a bunch of deer and wolves and found out they weren't killing near as many as people thought......even in the deep snow.
How bout the Grizzly Bears along the Missouri that use to live there. If they introduced them back to the area would you freak. Hope you don't have any nightmares tonight

We had a record breaking flood last spring across the state. One of the most brutal winters that lasted 6 months. Are you that ignoramus. Last years winter killed off a lot of the oldest and youngest deer and the calving season was very poor. It was last years winter!!!!
I realize you will not understand this but wolves kill more than just deer.

"Read the study they did up in northern minn."  Who is they  and can you post a copy or a web.site for this study??    
 
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by on 02/04/2010 1:03 PM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 03/12/2009
Location: nd
The article in that link commenting on the use of nuetering and birth control reminds me of a story a friend told of an actual meeting held in Mt. concerning this very thing. A biologist, possibly the same one, when asked the question about the pop. expanding out of control said there were no worries because plans had been made to use contraceptives to prevent any problems. One old rancher in the back of the room stood up and said "son I don't think you understand, the PROBLEM is the wolves are eating our cattle, not screwin them".
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by on 02/04/2010 1:17 PM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 06/22/2005
Location: ND
Wolves, a few here and there are not the problem, it is when the pack grows and they destroy everything, Just ask the poor rancher in MT that lost 120 sheep in one night, yep 1 night, they just maimed and killed and ate very little. They are starting to remove packs in MT, because of the interaction with livestock, What a waste of public funds when they could have raised the quota for the season in MT and let hunters take a few more. The FWP doesn't have a clue on how many are even in the state, a Quote from the missoulian newspaper last week from Carolyn Sime, wolf project leader in MT, We estimate that their are approximately 500 wolves in the State of Mt. Can anybody tell me how many they figured were there before this last years hunt. You guessed right, 500 wolves, now how can you have 500 wolves, I think they shot 73 this last year plus ones that FWS killed because of depredation, and still have 500 in the state, This is what happens when bunny huggers are your game managers. I would like to know how some the fishing buddy members who live in Montana feel about the disgrace going on out there. Like i said just the word Wolves, makes my blood boil. It is nothing against anybody on this site, Just venting frustrations, it happens when you lose your lion hunting dogs to them bastards.
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by on 02/04/2010 1:27 PM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 06/28/2002
Location: MN
Ruffed Man Said:
 I think your a little paranoid about the wolves. Read the study they did up in northern minn. They tagged a bunch of deer and wolves and found out they weren't killing near as many as people thought......even in the deep snow.
How bout the Grizzly Bears along the Missouri that use to live there. If they introduced them back to the area would you freak. Hope you don't have any nightmares tonight

We had a record breaking flood last spring across the state. One of the most brutal winters that lasted 6 months. Are you that ignoramus. Last years winter killed off a lot of the oldest and youngest deer and the calving season was very poor. It was last years winter!!!!
I have hunted thousands of hours in norther Mn. for deer, bear, birds etc...I can tell you with complete confidence that wolves are the #1 killer of deer where they exist. When they migrate into an area with deer, they wipe them out in a matter of a couple months. By the wolf specialists own admission, a pack of 5-7 wolves kill a deer a day. take 365 deer out of your area in a year, along with road kill, disease, coyote, accidental death etc.. and see where your deer population stands. Simple math will tell you who is blowing smoke up your dress!

 
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by on 02/04/2010 1:55 PM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 03/07/2002
Location: ND
NDSHOOTER Said:
 I believe that we (most ND sportsmen and ranchers) would share the same mentality as those in Wis.,northern Mn. and a few other states... that's the S.S.S concept.  Shoot, Shovel, and Shut-up.
i always

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by on 02/04/2010 2:25 PM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/02/2008
Location: ND
Nice coyote pics!
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by on 02/04/2010 2:44 PM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 09/30/2003
Location: ND
Like antler crazy stated there are wolves in the state. One was seen just last wk south west of Alexander. That being said most of the wolves in the state are just passing through and are not resident wolves. Yet.
When they fist planted wolve in MT the thought was that the wolves would feed on and reduce numbers of elk and move on they are finding that this is not the case. A wolf pack will stay in an are and kill every animal in the herd. They will run the herd and kill the last animal every time. Calves bulls then cows until they have killed them all.
One of many problems is the increased numbers of liberal, nonhunting biologists that are conducting many of the studies.Anyway it will be a little harder for the wolves to avoid the lead in ND in most places.
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by on 02/04/2010 2:48 PM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/10/2008
Location: ND
Looks like my Siberian Husky


 I don’t want to kill the animal, but I do want to warn it, and say “hey, I think you’re pretty neat, but I respect your distance.” There’s bears out here, there’s mountain cougars, and biting goats.

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by on 02/04/2010 3:14 PM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/27/2009
Location: ND
And i thought wolves only bothered piggies in non-brick houses!
 
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by on 02/04/2010 4:57 PM | Reply #16 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 04/03/2007
Location: ND

Do not go blaming the state Wildlife agencies for the wolves.  That is entirely brought on by our friends in the Federal wildlife agencies.   They reestablish wolf populations in states, and then dump the management on the states without ever asking them if they wanted the issue in the first place.  We have them pretty much throughout the state  of ND already, although only in small numbers.  Eventually, they will start forming packs and that will be it.  10 years ago, we were positive we had no
breeding mountain lions in the state either.

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by on 02/04/2010 5:35 PM | Reply #17 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/14/2009
Location: MT
 I have wondered about the lion's in ND and when thay became so common. I left 11 years ago. And I dont remember alot being said about Mtn lions in the badlands And I know the eastern part of MT where I grew up has alot more cats now than pre wolf re-introduction. IMHO cats are getting pushed further east due to wolves.
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by on 02/04/2010 7:44 PM | Reply #18 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/13/2003
Location: ND
there is a great article in last months predator mag, wolves are killing machines, the article goes on to say that the bigshots are admitting that the wolf is wiping out both elk and moose herds
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by on 02/04/2010 8:08 PM | Reply #19 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/12/2008
Location: ND
tikkahoyt Said:
Nice coyote pics!

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by on 02/04/2010 8:22 PM | Reply #20 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/09/2008
Location: ND
Well folks its real, coming from the Upper Peninsula Michigan, the wolves have decimated the deer heard, I call it the sterile woods.  There have always been up and downs in deer populations but I have never seen it as bad is it was this year.  They do a count of deer that go back to the souther part of the state over the Macinaw Bridge, the count was down by 70% year from last year, and last year was poor.  The Feds won't admit to the problem citing the bad winters.  If that is true, how come even in other bad winters in the past there were always plenty of deer to hunt.  The good news is that people are taking matters into their own hand (much to the dismay of the feds) and a good dose of mange might do what the Feds won't let us do.  Oh by the way the target for the amount of wolves in the UP was about 150, now by DNR counts it is at least 650, hmm.  Better speak up ND, there will be no deer or cows, sheep, dogs, cats, left! 
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