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Williston and thier Problems

by , Posted to on 12/27/2011 10:23 AM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 05/24/2008
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Maybe the owners of these two joints need one way tickets out of town.


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WILLISTON - Dre Holder got a good vibe when he arrived in Williston in search of a high-paying oil job. The 25-year-old from San Diego stepped off the train in the North Dakota boom town and immediately saw two strip clubs adjacent to the Amtrak depot.

"Cool," he said, eyeing the neon-lit bars before heading into one for a beer. "I've heard the ratio of men to women here is 87-to-1, so this is awesome."

Most cities work to enhance entry points like transportation hubs with landmarks or other items as a matter of public pride and to market the communities to potential businesses. But first impressions may be beside the point in Williston, where the economy is exploding and jobs at the Bakken and Three Forks oil formations outnumber the takers.

While the exact ratio isn't known, there's no question that with the influx of mostly male oil workers, Williston is testosterone heavy.

Whispers Nightclub and Heartbreakers Gentleman's Club stand out on the first block of Main Street, located diagonally from the chamber of commerce and the downtown senior center in the town of about 15,000.

"To be blunt and honest, I simply don't like them," Mayor Ward Koeser said of the bars. "I'm disappointed in the image they portray to the city. I wish they were not located in town, period."

Whispers owner Grace Delling and Heartbreakers owner Jared Holbrook did not return telephone calls from The Associated Press or messages left for them at the businesses.

The dimly lit clubs featuring a rotation of topless dancers appeal to many among the throngs of men seeking their fortune in Williston, but some community leaders consider the businesses unmentionable.

"No comment," said Kevin Paschke, executive director of the Williston Chamber of Commerce. "I don't want to talk about it or get in the middle of it."

Whispers, the long-established strip club, also offers casino-style blackjack and pull-tab tickets. Little-known around town is that half of the gambling proceeds go to Williston State College, a two-year school with about 415 full-time students.

"I'm not going to make a moral judgment on these businesses," said Williston State College president Raymond Nadolny, who says the revenue helps fund scholarships, facilities and a fledgling hockey program.

"If we didn't have this kind of fiscal resources, we wouldn't be able to do these projects," he said.

Nadolny said he did not know how much revenue the college gets from strip club.

Cresta Allison, who has been a blackjack dealer at Whispers for a decade, said gambling revenue has doubled to about $3,000 daily in the past few years, which is split with the college's nonprofit fundraising foundation.

Allison, a 40-year-old single mother, works four nights a week and said her salary has increased from about $15,000 to $35,000. While the men-to-women ratio may work in her favor, she said she's not interested.

"They are nice people," Allison said of workers who have relocated to the area. "But they are not going to be here forever."

Koeser said Whispers has been in business for more than a decade and the city council approved the business license for Heartbreakers about a year ago. The mayor said he cast lone vote on the city council opposing the second strip club.

As a salve, the council approved a $1 million project to tidy up the grounds between the adult-oriented businesses and the Amtrak depot. But Koeser said no amount of landscaping can camouflage the strip clubs.

Debbie Hayden, who works at the senior center, said the elderly citizens are repulsed by the clubs across the street.

"Most of the seniors come in through the back door," she said. "We don't have trouble with the people but just the trash they leave behind."

A nearly 90-year-old man volunteers each day to pick up beer bottles and other garbage left by bar patrons, she said.

Hayden said she had hoped that city leaders would block the second club from being established on Main Street, especially since it serves as a gateway to the community.

"Imagine getting off the train and the first thing you see are a couple of strip clubs," she said. "I don't like it, but what are you going to do? It's Williston."

 



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Re: Williston and thier Problems
by on 12/27/2011 10:30 AM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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WOW, the president of WSC has no idea how much revenue they're getting from Whispers? Not even an estimate? Uhhh....

Whispers, the long-established strip club, also offers casino-style blackjack and pull-tab tickets. Little-known around town is that half of the gambling proceeds go to Williston State College, a two-year school with about 415 full-time students.

"I'm not going to make a moral judgment on these businesses," said Williston State College president Raymond Nadolny, who says the revenue helps fund scholarships, facilities and a fledgling hockey program.

"If we didn't have this kind of fiscal resources, we wouldn't be able to do these projects," he said.

Nadolny said he did not know how much revenue the college gets from strip club.

 

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Re: Williston and thier Problems
by on 12/27/2011 10:38 AM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Here we go again,another williston topic
Re: Williston and thier Problems
by on 12/27/2011 10:44 AM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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murdock1978 Said:
Here we go again,another williston topic
Thank Mauser once again for that...stirring up more stuff.  That's all right though, he knows about ND cause he'll be up here for a couple weeks in Feb.

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Re: Williston and thier Problems
by on 12/27/2011 10:53 AM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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tugmcgraw Said:
Thank Mauser once again for that...stirring up more stuff.  That's all right though, he knows about ND cause he'll be up here for a couple weeks in Feb.



Tug the stay will be a lot longer than a couple of weeks and there has been many visits over a couple of weeks in the last couple of years.

You should be proud of these two joints in town.   Do locals get discounts?
 
Re: Williston and thier Problems
by on 12/27/2011 11:58 AM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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87-1 ratio of men to women. Wow I would hate to be a lonely guy up there
A buddy said some of the guys he works with will take a paycheck and blow it in 2-3 nights trying to narrow that ratio, and increase the odds. And most of these guys are bringing in 3500-6000 a pay period.
 

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Re: Williston and thier Problems
by on 12/27/2011 1:29 PM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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I don't think the article was especially well written.  The money that WSC gets is from charitable gambling.  The foundation likely has more than one site in town that it deals blackjack at, hence it would be weird for the school's president to actually know offhand how much comes from the strip club and how much comes from the other sites.  I could be wrong on this but most charities have more than one site.

The North Dakota Association for the Disabled (NDAD) is a pretty common one as well the local hockey boosters.

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Re: Williston and thier Problems
by on 12/27/2011 1:45 PM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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 I don't know, there's trash laying outside every bar in that town after closing. 
 
Re: Williston and thier Problems
by on 12/27/2011 7:06 PM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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BringingTheRain Said:
 I don't know, there's trash laying outside every bar in that town after closing. 


Do you think several large trash cans placed out front the bars in Williston along with a Porta-Potty would help with the trash problem.   I know finding some-one with enough since to empty the trash cans and call the septic co. to empty the Porta Poties would be a problem.
 
Re: Williston and thier Problems
by on 12/27/2011 7:55 PM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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tugmcgraw Said:
murdock1978 Said:
Here we go again,another williston topic
Thank Mauser once again for that...stirring up more stuff.  That's all right though, he knows about ND cause he'll be up here for a couple weeks in Feb.


hahaha...zing
Re: Williston and thier Problems
by on 12/27/2011 8:00 PM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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mauserG33-40 Said:



Do you think several large trash cans placed out front the bars in Williston along with a Porta-Potty would help with the trash problem.   I know finding some-one with enough since to empty the trash cans and call the septic co. to empty the Porta Poties would be a problem.
First you defend the oilfield trash, now you bash the locals. I think you just hate people all together. 



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by on 12/27/2011 8:22 PM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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701FishSlayer Said:
 
mauserG33-40 Said:



Do you think several large trash cans placed out front the bars in Williston along with a Porta-Potty would help with the trash problem.   I know finding some-one with enough since to empty the trash cans and call the septic co. to empty the Porta Poties would be a problem.
First you defend the oilfield trash, now you bash the locals. I think you just hate people all together. 
I don't hate anyone,I don't think anyone should be considered trash.

feather_duster Said:
 
tugmcgraw Said:
murdock1978 Said:
Here we go again,another williston topic
Thank Mauser once again for that...stirring up more stuff.  That's all right though, he knows about ND cause he'll be up here for a couple weeks in Feb.


hahaha...zing


mauserG33-40 Said:
tugmcgraw Said:
Thank Mauser once again for that...stirring up more stuff.  That's all right though, he knows about ND cause he'll be up here for a couple weeks in Feb.



Tug the stay will be a lot longer than a couple of weeks and there has been many visits over a couple of weeks in the last couple of years.

You should be proud of these two joints in town.   Do locals get discounts?

Why not show the whole quote........much more than a couple of weeks.next year I will be able to vote in ND and apply for hunting permits along with many others that have moved in,       "hahaha...zing"
 
Re: Williston and thier Problems
by on 12/27/2011 8:55 PM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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I don't hate anyone either, but I am starting to think that mauser qualifies as riff raff.
 
Re: Williston and thier Problems
by on 12/27/2011 9:15 PM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Why is having two strip clubs a problem?  Clubs have been in Williston for years and now all of a sudden they are a big deal.
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Re: Williston and thier Problems
by on 12/27/2011 9:22 PM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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3XGutshot Said:
Why is having two strip clubs a problem?  Clubs have been in Williston for years and now all of a sudden they are a big deal.

Ya it's kinda funny isn't it. Apparently it's putting off a bad image for people that just get into town. No single guy wants to see a booby bar hundreds of miles from home right, that would just be the ticker that gets me right back on the train.  




Re: Williston and thier Problems
by on 12/27/2011 10:04 PM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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701FishSlayer Said:
 
3XGutshot Said:
Why is having two strip clubs a problem?  Clubs have been in Williston for years and now all of a sudden they are a big deal.

Ya it's kinda funny isn't it. Apparently it's putting off a bad image for people that just get into town. No single guy wants to see a booby bar hundreds of miles from home right, that would just be the ticker that gets me right back on the train.  


Very true, kinda hard to gripe when they have had plenty of time to do something about them. Maybe they are just afraid of women making money like that.

I dont go around guessing cup sizes either I just know a nice rack when I see one.

Re: Williston and thier Problems
by on 12/27/2011 10:34 PM | Reply #16 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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doublebarrelsaloon Said:
701FishSlayer Said:
 
3XGutshot Said:
Why is having two strip clubs a problem?  Clubs have been in Williston for years and now all of a sudden they are a big deal.

Ya it's kinda funny isn't it. Apparently it's putting off a bad image for people that just get into town. No single guy wants to see a booby bar hundreds of miles from home right, that would just be the ticker that gets me right back on the train.  


Very true, kinda hard to gripe when they have had plenty of time to do something about them. Maybe they are just afraid of women making money like that.

It's the older generation that doesn't like it me thinks. Judging by the story it sounds like the blue haired people are still having trouble accepting that it's a real job. The mayor has to make himself look good so he decides to say he's not happy about it that way he keeps the old sheeple happy. Booby joints are the least of their problems though, if those grannys new how many hookers were around they'd probably insta stroke out. It's a business, one that should not have been shut down in Minot either. Conservative ignorance is sometimes worse than racism.




Re: Williston and thier Problems
by on 12/27/2011 10:57 PM | Reply #17 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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It said that Whispers has been in business for 10 years, but it was poor boys (Strip Club) before that. I am on a pool league team at Whispers and I only go there to play pool on Tuesdays. It is too full of crazies on weekends.
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by on 12/27/2011 11:10 PM | Reply #18 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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cootkiller 1 Said:
I don't hate anyone either, but I am starting to think that mauser qualifies as riff raff.

Iam sure you are qualified to make a judgement call like that.  Don't be late for your Clan meeting.   By the way there are more rigs headed to ND more people, lots  more in the Williston area.  The good thing is there are a lot more good people than there are hate mongers.  Don't trip on your robe and hurt yourself.
 
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by on 12/27/2011 11:35 PM | Reply #19 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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mauserG33-40 Said:
cootkiller 1 Said:
I don't hate anyone either, but I am starting to think that mauser qualifies as riff raff.

Iam sure you are qualified to make a judgement call like that.  Don't be late for your Clan meeting.   By the way there are more rigs headed to ND more people, lots  more in the Williston area.  The good thing is there are a lot more good people than there are hate mongers.  Don't trip on your robe and hurt yourself.
riff raff...haha....nobody likes you!!     "Zing!!"

Re: Williston and thier Problems
by on 12/28/2011 05:45 AM | Reply #20 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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cootkiller 1 Said:
I don't hate anyone either, but I am starting to think that mauser qualifies as riff raff.
Yeah.  Mauser's a douche bag!

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