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When to put a dog down?

by , Posted to on 04/06/2009 6:00 PM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/22/2005
Location: ND
When is the right time to put a dog down? What are the signs?  I got a 13 year old lab that’s hips are shot and her joints are always sore.  She is consistently licking her legs, paws and has a tough time squatting to go to the bathroom.  On cold days her back end will drop often and she will struggle to lift herself up.  She has been on medication for her arthritis and takes medication for bathroom control.  In twelve years she had one accident in our house, in the past year she has gone multiple times in the garage and sometimes I think she leaks urine on herself.  I have pushed to put her to sleep for the past 6 months and family has fought it.  I hate to see her struggle through life and it feels right to put her down.  The tough part is that she still wags her tail and jogs at a slow speed as fast as she can towards me every time she sees me with excitement.  In the past month she has just started not carrying a fetch toy of some sort around.  We also have a new lab puppy that I want to train but feel as if I’m betraying her when I give the pup attention or training.  The puppy is full of excitement and is constantly knocking down the older one without even knowing it.  My wife feels that I just need to accept her for the dog she is now and let her live.  The thing is I don’t know if I want her to live if she is constantly struggling.  Summer is coming and the warm temps should help, I really don’t know what to do.
Re: When to put a dog down?
by on 04/06/2009 6:20 PM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/25/2008
Location: ND
A very tough position to be in. I have been through it a few times. I wouldnt feel guilty about training your new pup, just make sure and give the old dog a fewor special attention.  By the sounds of your old dogs condition  i would give her the spring and do what you think is best. Dogs dont live long enough. good luck and work the new pup every day
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by on 04/06/2009 7:38 PM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/27/2002
Location: ND
  A very difficult decision for sure. She will be OK with whatever you decide, you have given her the best life possible and thanks you dearly for it. See what the warmer weather brings and  "family" decide what is best. She will be with you always.
God Bless!!!
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by on 04/06/2009 7:43 PM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/03/2003
Location: ND
Put her out of her misery. I know its a tough deal, but put yourself in her paws. If you can hold out till frost goes to dig her a resting spot, then wait. Been there, done that. I can gaurentee you will cry like a baby.  
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by on 04/06/2009 8:00 PM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 03/17/2008
Location: ND
 Man, that's a tough one.  I had a springer that made it till 19 years, she was with me since I was 10 years old and to this day is the toughest decision my family had to make.   I was 28 at the time and yea, cried like a baby - but he was a great dog.  All I can say is, you'll know when the time is right.  If it doesn't feel right to do it now, don't do it.  Give her some extra attention and see how she is this summer.  You'll know when the time is right. 

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by on 04/06/2009 8:22 PM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/17/2001
Location: ND
yeh, I feel your pain.  I have a 10 year old Golden Retriever who is a member of the family no doubt,  was diagnosed with Cancer  in Febuary..... totally out of the blue sky.. on a routine Vet visit. It was  in his leg and spreading quickly.  Doc said 3 to 6 months, unless we amputate, then he wouldn't guarantee  even  6 months.........talk about shock.

So, off came the leg about 3 weeks ago. he's a bit limpy but is still my old buddy, just have to help him into the pickup every day, and up the stairs in the house..........

Started him on Chemotherapy  2 weeks ago, he's doing pretty darn good...........we do everything to keep humans alive, be darned if I'll skimp on him,  More loyal than any human ever has been..........who know's, mabeye we will be chasing pheasants next October right?   Good luck with your decision......My thought is,  once they are visibly suffering, it is time to end it.
Re: When to put a dog down?
by on 04/06/2009 8:27 PM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/22/2008
Location: SD
I agree this is a tuff one, I would wait and see what the warmer temps bring and go from there. Your taking the first steps now towards the ending proces already and you will know when the time is right. We all have traveled this route once or twice and it is never easy and it's different for everyone.  I'm sorry to hear about the loss thats coming.

P.S. Good luck with the new pup!
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by on 04/06/2009 9:56 PM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/12/2007
Location: ND
A topic that hits me hard! My dog(Curly)  was diagnosed with a large internal tumor in January along with his heart murmur going from grade 2 to grade 6. The tumor is growing rapidly and the time is coming soon! He can no longer go for his morning walks and I am struggling with it! I paid good money for him as a pup and found out a month later about the heart murmur, the breeder would exchange him, but would of put him down. I didn't have the heart to do it, so I kept him. The vet gave him 4 years, he's now pushing 8 years old! He's never been a barn burner in the field, but he's given me all he had with complete loyalty, if only I could of found a woman like that! I know the time is coming soon and it hurts like hell, but I owe him not to suffer.  When is the time right? I really don't know! I just can't watch him suffer much longer.  I just hope I am shown as much mercy when my time comes!  May god bless all you dog owners and help you make the right decisions when that  time comes!
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by on 04/07/2009 03:05 AM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 03/17/2005
Location: ND
What a tough and emotional question. I don't have an answer and I too am a loyal dog owner as my dog is loyal to my family and I. The only thing I know for sure is someone should put down jaksamas for his stupid responce to a sensative question. I feel for you carpshooter!
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by on 04/07/2009 06:11 AM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/20/2009
Location: nd
with spring/summer coming I would let her enjoy lying in the summer sun...the family will all know when its time.
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by on 04/07/2009 07:06 AM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 05/05/2007
Location: MN
it sounds like its time.  just put my lab down also 13 years.i called my vet and they met me in the parking lot and did it there. i already had the grave dug. i cried like a slobbering baby for the ride home but knowing i did the right thing eased the hurt somewhat. good luck/ 
the more food you have in your mouth, the better you can taste it !!
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by on 04/07/2009 07:36 AM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/10/2006
Location: ND
I gotta agree with Pat'sPlace. I'd give her the summer and then start thinking about doing it. Just remember all dogs go to heaven.

I joined the military not only to fight for my country but to fight for those that can't fight for themselves. Thats why I'm here.

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by on 04/07/2009 08:53 AM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/16/2001
Location: ND
Look at it with this question in mind.  Are you prolonging life or prolonging death?   And is the poor dog enjoying life anymore? 
My last dog had a great life, 16+ years and a super last pheasant season, then laid down, curled up and when she wasn't up and at em late the next morning, still curled up, we finally realized she had died during the night! 
Thpough it would be nice if all dogs did this, it is not life for most of them, and hoping and wanting doesn't make it true!    I had a great Springer one time who got old and your description of your dog would have fit her perfectly.   Thinking I was doing a great and noble thing for her I kept her alive an extra year or two by all kinds of heroic nonsense.  In retrospect, that was one of the stupider things I've probably ever done.  To be old and wise too often means that at one time you were young and stupid!    Like the old "experience is a lifetime of mistakes" quote! 

I finally faced reality and though it was tough digging her grave while she lay there wagging her tail, barely able to move and gasping for breath watching me through her cataract'd eyes,  it had to be done!   Should have been done far earlier!  
Mauser's HSUS would have and should have been all over me like flies on feces! LOL
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by on 04/07/2009 10:04 AM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/28/2005
Location: ND

Whoever's dog it is should make the decision.  You will know when you think that you have done everything you could and putting the dog down is the last thing you can do to help.  Some conditions are more treatable than others, obviously, and this will dictate some of the decision making.  If you feel you have a good vet than get their opinion as far as the dogs condition and internal organ functions.  If the dog is in obvious pain and yelps when you move its joints, and anti-inflammatories are no longer working, than I would say sooner rather than later 

Its the toughest thing I've ever gone through, but you did the right thing in getting a pup before you put the other one down.  I didn't do that and have put off getting another dog because I struggle with the thought of having to go through the whole thing over again.  Some people have an easier time with this than others.  I felt, like many, that my dog deserved every effort that I would have given any other member of my family.  Many, including my soon to be ex-wife, thought I was crazy and just throwing money away, but that was my decision, because he was my friend and my responsibility. 

I had a hole dug and made a casket for him, so that part was done, which made it easier when the time came, and doing this part right was the last thing I could do to honor him for what he had given me through the years.  The vet met me in the parking lot as well.  Spend as much quality time with your dog as you can, and you will know when the time has come.  Its tough cleaning up messes in the house all the time, but it goes with the territory.  You did it when he was a pup, so just grin and bare it now.
 

Life is tough; its tougher if you're stupid!!!!
Re: When to put a dog down?
by on 04/07/2009 12:18 PM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/25/2007
Location: SD
Very sensitive topic and a difficult one, thanks for sharing it. I have experienced this emotional turmoil more than once in my lifetime and it has never gotten any easier. The last dog I had to put down was my old fishing buddy Dryfuss, he loved the boat and the lake. it took me awhile to get another dog but having worked through the grief process I have another one named Hollie (she is very fond of the water) just not real fond of the boat - Yet
At any rate at least you shared your feelings which is the first step in the process, the final decision rests with you and your pal, God Bless. Jim Sherman
Jim S. - Sturgis, SD
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by on 04/07/2009 12:26 PM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 04/03/2007
Location: ND
You are going to eventually make a very hard decision, but let me share this with you.  Two years ago our 13 year old border collie suffered a stroke and lost muscle control on one side of her face.  We treated with daily childrens aspirin and also picked up a new pup.  A year later she came out of it, and now runs around with the two additional dogs we now have.  Yeah , she is slow getting  up and can only hold it for about 10 hours, but she in no way at 15 years is showing any more age. It sounds as if it  still has a strong attitude, and wants to participate so I  would recommend holding off until it is absolutely required.  Good luck
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by on 04/08/2009 07:33 AM | Reply #16 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/22/2005
Location: ND
Thanks for all the post, the dog was a present to me in 8th grade but has lived at parents house through out her life.  My mom called me yesterday sobbing saying that she would not let me put the dog down.  She said to wait it out and see what the summer heat and sun do to her.  I just hate seeing a dog with a low quality of life struggle every day just to get out of bed.
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by on 04/08/2009 09:12 AM | Reply #17 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/24/2005
Location: ND
We waited to put ours down too long.
The poor thing ( the last day she was alive) had multiple sezures, and her heart was failing....

Don't wait  "too" long. Try not to let her die in pain... Give her a good send off- not one of necessity, but one of compassion... it's the least anyone can do for someone they care for.

I'm the devil's son..... call me young gun.

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by on 04/08/2009 10:29 AM | Reply #18 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/28/2005
Location: ND
Given the current information, I would say to let your parents make the decision as far as when to put the dog down.  Its obvious that they have played a much more important and responsible role in the dog's life than you have, since it has lived with them throughout her entire life.  I'm not saying that the dog isn't technically yours since it was a gift to you when you were 14, but the dog is far more emotionally attached to your parents.  So let them make the decision.  When you have cared for one almost everyday of its life, like a child, then you have earned the right to make the call.
Life is tough; its tougher if you're stupid!!!!
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by on 04/08/2009 10:39 AM | Reply #19 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 04/08/2009
Location: nd
Look her in the eye, she'll tell you when it's time. I had the same thing happen last year, same worries. My lab was broken down, but still wagged his tail in the morning and ran as best he could. One day the sparkle in his eyes was gone and that was it.
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by on 04/08/2009 10:57 AM | Reply #20 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/25/2007
Location: ND
geesh this is a difficult forum to read.  anyone with issues getting in touch with their emotional side need only log on to fishing buddy.  almost have to close my door to my office when i read this forum.  i really was hoping my dog(s) would live forever or at least die with me in a car accident.  i can't imagine having to make the hard decisions some of you have.  my heart goes out to you guys. 
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