When is the ice thick enough?

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beedoggs1
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When is the ice thick enough?

I am in the process of buying a permanent ice house, this will be my first "house", i've always fished with portables, but I plan to be spending ALOT more days on the ice this winter around Van Hook. My question is, how thick does the ice have to be before any of you feel comfortable setting your permanents? This is a 6 1/2 x 20' house, so it's not little. Do you have any suggestions for me as far as set up? Should I be worried about it freezing to the ice? What do you all do to prevent that? 2x4's? This cold snap and blizzard really have me excited for good ice conditions next week, I can't wait!

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I usually fell safe from 15-20 inches of ice

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I have used a permanent ice house the last 3-4 years now. My guidelines that I follow is at least 12-15 inches. I like to see other people driving out on the ice first. With my new truck 1/2 GMC Crew Cab I will wait for the ice to be at least 15 inches. I will spot check the ice as I go as well the first time I go onto the ice for the year. Make sure you use smokeless oil for you auger, and leave the door open. If you have a TV make sure that your ice house is completly warm before turning it on and if you need a converter box for the new digital signal, get your $40 coupon from the government(www.DTYanswers.gov). We have installed a small 12 volt fan to circulate the air, especially toward the door, so it does not freeze up. Freezing down can always be a problem. Do not use water soaked ice to bank up your ice house. What I told to try this year is to lower the ice house 1/2 way and drill the holes, then use a snow rake to remove all the wet slush and then lower the ice house down. The person that I bought my new ice house said that he has never had one freeze down on him yet. I used to alway set the ice house on 2x4's(one on each corner) and that worked well for me. I could at least pry it up before cranking it up. Hope this will help. Any more questions let me know. I will try to help.

beedoggs1
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Thanks Nathan, you have some good pointers. I plan on putting satellite TV in the house, I have a subscription at home that I pay dearly for, so I might as well bring it with huh? I have always been leery about driving on the ice, and have never felt "comfortable" until it's 15+, so I should be good there. Do you or anyone you know use those ice sleeves that extend down from the house into the hole to stop the draft? I can see where they would be helpful, but will banking the house do the same?

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helped my buddy pull his house, which is 23ft long out a few weekends ago on 8.5in of ice at audobon... used a 4wheeler... drilled test holes on the way out and the water didnt even bounce in the holes as we went by...so i say 8-9in is enough.

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Good info Nathan, but what is smokeless 2 stroke oil? Synthetic?
And doesn't your house freeze down when you leave it in the same place for days at a time? How do you prevent that, or do the 2X4's in the corners do that?

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Jiffy makes a 2-stroke smokeless oil that works well. It's about a 6oz bottle that mixes w/1 gal gas. I also just got done building what is my 1st permanent. It's a 7x14 w/6 catch cover holes. It's all outfitted and waiting for thicker ice. With low temps next week maybe will be at Audobon by Fri. The question I have is redrilling holes when gone for a few days. Do you lift it up and redrill or are thos $50 slush bucket at Scheels worth it?
p.s. Kept 1 bottle of redeye from deer camp to save for my open fishing house party.Got the itch bad.

beedoggs1
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Good suggestion Tonka. I am thinking of getting a 12 volt auger for in the house use, no fumes at all that way. As for those slush cans.... I don't think they would eliminate any mess or whatnot, or make it easier after leaving the holes for a few days. I saw that icecastle has some catchers of sorts, basically just a plastic rectangle box to stop your shavings from destroying your carpet, which i guess would work if you had rectangle holes, instead of round holes. I guess i've never seen a rectangle auger...... :P

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BTW Tonka, put some pictures of your house up, I like to see other people's ideas for a great house.

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I have seen this product work pretty good. It was used with two 4x4 pieces of wood under the back of the house and one in the front.

Look at the 4th item down.

http://www.fishhousesupply.com/houseaccessories.htm

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Yes bobkat, the 2x4's in the corner help prevents the house from freezing down. Like I said I am going to try the snow rake with no slush under my house and see how that works. If not I guess I will chip it free and go back to the 2x4's.

I use that slush remover at Scheels. I love it, it is definatly worth it. In the ice house keep a 5 gallon bucket right next to the hole to transfer the slush out of the house without making a mess in the house.

8-9 inches is way to thin for me. Sold my atv, only got my truck. I will wait til it is at least 15 inches.

I have never used anything in my holes to keep them open. When I lived in Devils Lake, I left the furnace on everyday(I also fished in it every night after work) and this kept the holes open. Now I live in Bismarck, and will not be able to fish every day, so I figured I will be drilling alot. I have seen the hole heaters, but have never tried them. Has anyone ever tried them?

I am going to set my ice house on Sweet Briar to start, if that doesn't work I will probally move it to Audobon. Anty good perch lakes close to Bismarck?

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I have set my 8x14 (heavy) down many times on 8" with the ATV. You can make your own ice catch container using a 5 gal bucket cut down and pop-riveted to a plastic container. Works great until the ice gets too thick,(lots of shutting down auger to dump). Drill your holes out and clean up mess before starting the heat. Like said before, try not to use wet slush around the house.If leaving house, after use just pop it loose in the corners. Keep your lock well lubed to prevent from freezing.

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I used to do a lot of ice fishing ,but since I have gotten older "much older"the ice is never thick enough so I quit.

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Nathan, I wouldn't even bother with sweet briar, go East young man. It is a little further but from Wing to Medina, Woodworth to Napoleon are many great perch lakes with some Walleye mixed in some of them. And the perch are often like the ones found in DL. Good luck

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What is your guess for ice on Audobon Wednesday 13inches? How much is added per day at -22f?

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It's thick enough all the way up to the point ya fall in....then...well...not so much.

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If you're a contemporary male and your wife is a "modern" woman, give her a new ironing board cover tomorrow. Fishing should be great.

I credit Walter E. Williams with this idea. He's a black dude from America.

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