what kind of snake is this?

A  cousin of mine (woman in her 50's) who lives in central north dakota killed this snake near her house on  her farm.  She was told it was a copperhead, but I did some searching and copperheads snakes are in the united states.  However they are not supposed to anywhere close to north dakota. 

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tried to search it and found out i dont think it is a copperhead as well as how f-ing nasty i now realize snakes are. Gross.

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Ckicken snake??how come she'd killed it??

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Bull snake?

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young bull snake, I would guess

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What you have here ---- is a alabama black snake

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looks like a dead snake


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Looks like a bullsnake the colors are basically the opposite of what i'm used to seeing though, the black is where the tan usually is and vise versa but maybe that happens.

I dont go around guessing cup sizes either I just know a nice rack when I see one.

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doublebarrelsaloon Said:
Looks like a bullsnake the colors are basically the opposite of what i'm used to seeing though, the black is where the tan usually is and vise versa but maybe that happens.

agreed


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fish-head Said:
young bull snake, I would guess

Yep I think you are right on, after looking again at the size in relation to the plants, first I though this was a much bigger snake.

I dont go around guessing cup sizes either I just know a nice rack when I see one.

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I dont know why she killed it.  I am assuming she is scared of snakes.  When i was young my grandmother would kill every garter snake she would come across on her farm.

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SHORTHAIRSRUS Said:

What you have here ---- is a alabama black snake

However It's not "TO BUKU" !!

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That is an eastern hognose snake, and that photo is either not taken in central noth dakota or some one let it go there.

western hognose snakes are native to ND, both are mildly venomous rear fanged colubrids, however one would have to chew on your finger real good for at least a few minutes to show any visible reaction.

the western variety make good "pets" and are very popular in the pet trade (used to breed them myself) however the easterns are finicky eaters and aren't as docile & easy handling.

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multi-species-angler Said:
That is an eastern hognose snake, and that photo is either not taken in central noth dakota or some one let it go there.

western hognose snakes are native to ND, both are mildly venomous rear fanged colubrids, however one would have to chew on your finger real good for at least a few minutes to show any visible reaction.

the western variety make good "pets" and are very popular in the pet trade (used to breed them myself) however the easterns are finicky eaters and aren't as docile & easy handling.

Wow, I just googled eastern hognose snake and there are a bunch of different color variations.

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yes they get pretty big too.  My favorite are the jet black ones.  they put on a hell of a display when you first encounter one in the wild.  they will flatten their necks out and bluff like a cobra, when that doesn't work they flip over on their backs and play dead, even hang their tongue out with mouth open.

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multi-species-angler Said:
western hognose snakes (used to breed them myself)

Who'd you get to hold them straight for you?  Nevermind, no one really wants to know.

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When did she find it?

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bull snakes are a blast to catch, i got a 5 footer along the east side of the tailrace shute where those giant concrete blocks are, I cokest him out of a hole, he was extreamly agresive, his eyes were cloudy which means they are close to shedding and almost blind at that time, he hissed like a mad cat. out of the 20 or so garter snakes I've caught or harrased, I've only been hissed at once.

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Stay thirsty my friends

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I, too, was going to say a Hognosed Snake, but a couple of guysbeat me to the punch.  As far as snakes go, they are pretty cool.  They will puff up and hiss at you and look ferocious, but if you don't scare away, sometimes they will roll over and play dead.  They don't do it every time but if you ever see it, it's pretty cool.

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the only poisoness snake in north dakota is the prarie rattler.

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Don't forget the hoop snakes,they can cause a lot of pain!

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Bullheader Said:
the only poisoness snake in north dakota is the prarie rattler.

Don't forget the rear fangers bullheader.  the western hognose and the garter snakes.  heres a link to what a western hognose bite can do to your hand.  Please rememeber that this bite was a feeding response and the owner willingly "participated" instead of jerking his hand quickly away.  Since the little hog thought his finger was food it used venom and held on.  I have been "quickly" bitten by several hognose and never had a reaction like this, in fact I had no reaction at all.

www.herpnet.net/bite/

Hey BKIT29 when did your cousin find that snake.

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murdock1978 Said:
Don't forget the hoop snakes,they can cause a lot of pain!

Ckicken snake??how come she'd killed it??

Please forgive murdock, he doesn't have the current "Old Wives Tale's field guide to the snakes of ND"

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I know the hognose has a mild venom in its hallow back teeth, but I did not count it as truly poisiness because the chance that it will harm you if bitten is minimal because it only uses it if it plans on eating the thing it bites.

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