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Waterfowlers~

by , Posted to on 07/28/2011 2:22 PM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/29/2003
Location: MN
Early honker season is upon us with an increased bag limit this season,so any of you that like to shoot the premium ammo from federal or winchester,now is a good time to try something better @ a discounted price~ Hevi Metal from hevi shot has a rebate for the 1st time.

Down load the coupon here~

http://www.hevishot.com/images/stories/_Rebates/2011/HEVI-Metal%20August%202011.pdf

FYI
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by on 07/28/2011 2:27 PM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/16/2009
Location: ND
nice shameless plug.

I'll stick to my blue box Federals at 100 buck a case!   IMO If you think you need hevi-shot to kill early season Canadas you need to hone your hunting skills or have too much $$ to spend.

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by on 07/28/2011 2:35 PM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/31/2005
Location: ND
and here I thought this thread would be about :

MIDWEST WATERFOWL FEST

Midwest Waterfowl Fest, Friday July 29th, and Saturday July 30th at the Scheel's parking lot in Fargo. Free, family festival includes youth and adult duck and Canadian goose calling contests and k-0 jumping challenges. Don't miss the free educational seminars with Scott Threinen, 2 time world goose calling champion, and Chad Belding, host of "The Fowl Life" and "Dead Dog Walkin". Bring the whole family to enjoy the Midwest Waterfowl Fest at Scheels, 45th Street, Fargo, July 29th and 30th.




brindle is as brindle does
 

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by on 07/28/2011 2:52 PM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/29/2003
Location: MN

aggie,

"Shameless" hardly,the last two years folks were looking for rebates on this new product,wanted something with more range and better killing power and not break the bank.BTW hevi metal is a "bye product' of hevi shot,shoot what works for you and don't be mad.

Besides the rebate deal ends 8/31 incase you did'nt see the deadline,stock up now for late or later season birds,its just a headsup~

Yelow,

I'll bet this weekend would be alot of fun,I get a kick outof Belding,he's a great guy and full of energy,he'll get ya fired up for sure.Thanks for the headsup.
 

Perazzi usa
Benelli usa
hevi shot prostaff
Briley chokes
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by on 07/28/2011 4:14 PM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 03/23/2009
Location: ND

aggie,

Who are you to talk about my hunting skills because i shoot hevimetals almost exclusively.  No i don't have extra money to spend either and neither do my friends that shoot mostly premium shells also.  We get the geese plenty close, there is no trouble in that and ya the blue box shells work plenty good for those 20 yard shots but when you got a cripple at 60 yards and don't say it doesn't happen because it does it's nice to be able to put the bird down and well worth the extra money to me.  So you keep shooting the blue box federals and i'll keep putting down the wounded birds.  I'm willing to guess that you have never given the premium shells (black cloud, hevimetal/hevishot, hypersonics, etc.) a fair trial to see that there is an advantage. 

On a side note, i shot a 20 gauge all last year with hevimetals and put alot of 12 gauges to shame on distance of kills and number of kills.

Thank you snow for the heads up on the rebate, i can use that for sure and wouldn't have seen it otherwise since i'm busy working 14 hour days, 6 days a week so i can have to much money to spend on these shells.

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by on 07/28/2011 4:19 PM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/31/2005
Location: ND
snow Said:


Yelow,

I'll bet this weekend would be alot of fun,I get a kick outof Belding,he's a great guy and full of energy,he'll get ya fired up for sure.Thanks for the headsup.
 


Sad part is Scheels forgot to clear this with us FBO member’s and it happens to conflict with our Bullhead shindig….oh well…priorities I guess…





brindle is as brindle does
 

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by on 07/28/2011 4:27 PM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/22/2003
Location: ND
I just want to know why they never do the seminars in Minot?  Is it because there is no competition here, Sportsman's Loft at least gets the Winchester Trailer and the Rugar Trailer to come in once a year.

If it flies it dies!

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by on 07/28/2011 6:12 PM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/02/2009
Location: ND
aggiefan Said:
nice shameless plug.

I'll stick to my blue box Federals at 100 buck a case!   IMO If you think you need hevi-shot to kill early season Canadas you need to hone your hunting skills or have too much $$ to spend.
agreed besides the blue box part, we go with the winchester expert steel number 2's)9.99 a box) i can gurantee they put more birds down than the gimic hevi metal and black cloud when put in the right hands. Its the shooter that makes the shot good not the shells.

Just like aggiefan said, if you need those gimic shells to kill birds you might wanna sharpen your shooting skills

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by on 07/28/2011 11:03 PM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 03/23/2009
Location: ND
Combo,

Any time you wanna hit up the trap range let me know. I suppose you would say steel works better than lead too, I'm guessing you are one of those guys that can't understand numbers and energy but hey whatever no sense in arguing with someone that is to ignorant to change or try change. These shells aren't a gimmick the others will work but these just work better. Been there with the experts and federals you name it I've shot it just about for shells and these are what I found to work best.
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by on 07/28/2011 11:18 PM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/02/2009
Location: ND
Murrdogg Said:
Combo,

Any time you wanna hit up the trap range let me know. I suppose you would say steel works better than lead too, I'm guessing you are one of those guys that can't understand numbers and energy but hey whatever no sense in arguing with someone that is to ignorant to change or try change. These shells aren't a gimmick the others will work but these just work better. Been there with the experts and federals you name it I've shot it just about for shells and these are what I found to work best.

why would i need to go to the range, im already a great shot with my $10 a box shells, so what exactly be the point of me spending double-triple the price for shells?

Im happy for you that you finally found a box of shells you can hit birds with, but to say they will out shoot other shells is nonsense. Its not rocket science to understand that shot placement counts a little more than a heavy load with extra fps.

so what if they can maybe drop a bird better at 60 yds, my question to you is why are you shooting birds at 60 yds? Criples? well you should have shot it dead right away with those expensive shells shouldn't have you instead of crippling it while it was in close? maybe you need to rethink you decoying strategy if you can't get birds closer than that
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by on 07/28/2011 11:23 PM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/05/2010
Location: nd
all shells work pretty good if you shoot them in the face like you are supposed to. Putting a gooses head and neck in a pattern isn't really all that hard if you don't overthink the whole situation.
 
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by on 07/29/2011 06:46 AM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 03/23/2009
Location: ND
If you are going to tell me that you never had a cripple before that's gotten away you are full of crap.  Yes we do have cripples with the "premiums" but we still have a higher chance of putting them down at further distances.  I don't know how you feel that you can call me a bad shot when you've never seen me shoot so step off your high horse for alittle bit.  Shot placement does count more than fps and energy so i'm guessing you shoot a .223 for deer and a 45lb bow for bowhunting.  I've never said the cheap shells won't kill geese and they will but sometimes there is something better out there and that's what i choose to shoot the best that i can.  You can't say they aren't any better either, increased pattern density and energy on target is definitely better.  I spent a lot of time patterning shells and shooting them in the field and the shells i shoot are what patterned the best and killed the best.  The cost of shells is the least of my worries when one goose hunt costs $50 or more in gas alone.  I'm going to make accusations like you did about my hunting and shooting ability and say that since you complain about the cost of shells you are one of those guys that doesn't do any of their own spotting, doesn't help cover cost of gas, and just tags along and uses everyone elses decoys because the stuff like that is the expensive part of waterfowl hunting.
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by on 07/29/2011 08:07 AM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/04/2007
Location: ND
$9.99 vs $25.99 a box, none of that matters if you shoot them in the tail feathers. I also shoot 99% of my birds with $9.99 Winchester Xpert 2's or 4's I shoot them in the face, they die, my dog brings them to me and I eat them. I do ocassionally try other brands and metals, but I hunt and shoot a lot of waterfowl and I spend enough money buying $9.99 boxes of shells. I take shots that aren't streching my patterns ability and I have no problems. Know your limits and your shotshell limits.

We've all had crippled birds, it happens no matter what shells you use. Such is life.

I think the biggest factor in missing birds is rushing the shot, you have a lot more time than a person thinks regardless of the situation. Another reason is simply over thinking the shot, that hurts a lot of peoples ability to knock down a bird. When I have to much time I usally miss, in those cases I will bring the gun back down and pull up again, thus having less time to "think" about all the factors involved and simply let muscle memory do it's job. Whack....dead bird.

I shot on the Armed Forces Skeet team for 4 years and I shot with a lot of great shooters. I learned a lot and it has proven effective on the skeet range and in the field.

My rant is done. 

LIFE...It's nature's way of keeping meat fresh!

If you want to sound wise, go to school. If you want to be wise....go to Nature!

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by on 07/29/2011 08:07 AM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/04/2007
Location: ND
Oh and Snow, Thanks for the Rebate!

LIFE...It's nature's way of keeping meat fresh!

If you want to sound wise, go to school. If you want to be wise....go to Nature!

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by on 07/29/2011 09:36 AM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/26/2010
Location: nd
HNTDUX Said:
$9.99 vs $25.99 a box, none of that matters if you shoot them in the tail feathers. I also shoot 99% of my birds with $9.99 Winchester Xpert 2's or 4's I shoot them in the face, they die, my dog brings them to me and I eat them. I do ocassionally try other brands and metals, but I hunt and shoot a lot of waterfowl and I spend enough money buying $9.99 boxes of shells. I take shots that aren't streching my patterns ability and I have no problems. Know your limits and your shotshell limits.

We've all had crippled birds, it happens no matter what shells you use. Such is life.

I think the biggest factor in missing birds is rushing the shot, you have a lot more time than a person thinks regardless of the situation. Another reason is simply over thinking the shot, that hurts a lot of peoples ability to knock down a bird. When I have to much time I usally miss, in those cases I will bring the gun back down and pull up again, thus having less time to "think" about all the factors involved and simply let muscle memory do it's job. Whack....dead bird.

I shot on the Armed Forces Skeet team for 4 years and I shot with a lot of great shooters. I learned a lot and it has proven effective on the skeet range and in the field.

My rant is done. 
I agree with you except that with some of the heavy shot and other brands, you can stretch your range a little. 

At the same hand, there is a variety of shells for purchase by waterfowl hunters.  I don't believe anyone should sit and rant to people that they are a poor shot or that they are wasting money  because they use certain shells.  Use what you feel you have the best success with. 

Live hard! Die happy!
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by on 07/29/2011 09:37 AM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/26/2010
Location: nd
HNTDUX Said:
Oh and Snow, Thanks for the Rebate!
  Thanks for sharing the info Snow!

Live hard! Die happy!
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by on 07/29/2011 12:12 PM | Reply #16 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/29/2003
Location: MN
Thanx guyz,did'nt mean to get a pissin match goin,but hey some guyz like to shoot premium ammo,me included,I'm old school and remember the good ole days of lead vs waterfowl,when we had to shoot steel nation wide I hated steel so much I played with tungsen and bismuth,still it was'nt the same killin birds even with a 10ga,the hevi shot came along,night and day difference,never looked back at any of the other stuff.

We don't get the opportunity of birds in your face to often here in Mn,early birds yes,late season no,they get educated quick,its fun to reach out and tickle'em.

BTW,no gimmick here,these hevi metal shells have 20% more pellets than standard steel loads= more pellets on target=more dead birds,and the shot is a blend of steel and hevi shot in each shell.Oh sure you can reach out with blue box steel or experts by upsizing your pellet size but decreasing pellet count reducing dead birds the further out they are and usually more cripples.

Just a few thoughts guyz,shoot straight whatever you shoot and have fun.
Perazzi usa
Benelli usa
hevi shot prostaff
Briley chokes
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by on 07/29/2011 2:16 PM | Reply #17 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/12/2003
Location: ND
Hey snow, you probably will love to try these shells this fall.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4EJyo0spPs

I love to try everything.. sure I've smacked em good with every brand in the book.. Just like trying.. I get crap for having like 5-6 different types of shells when I go into the field.. lol reminds me of fishing.. like how many different cranks I need even though I probably catch 80% of my fish on the same damn crank each year!

Either way sound like everyone is getting out and finding success!  That rocks!  Shoot straight!  (although I like to miss, because I can shoot more..)  4 or 5 shell days blow..

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by on 07/29/2011 2:30 PM | Reply #18 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/16/2009
Location: ND
snow Said:
Thanx guyz,did'nt mean to get a pissin match goin,but hey some guyz like to shoot premium ammo,me included,I'm old school and remember the good ole days of lead vs waterfowl,when we had to shoot steel nation wide I hated steel so much I played with tungsen and bismuth,still it was'nt the same killin birds even with a 10ga,the hevi shot came along,night and day difference,never looked back at any of the other stuff.

We don't get the opportunity of birds in your face to often here in Mn,early birds yes,late season no,they get educated quick,its fun to reach out and tickle'em.

BTW,no gimmick here,these hevi metal shells have 20% more pellets than standard steel loads= more pellets on target=more dead birds,and the shot is a blend of steel and hevi shot in each shell.Oh sure you can reach out with blue box steel or experts by upsizing your pellet size but decreasing pellet count reducing dead birds the further out they are and usually more cripples.

Just a few thoughts guyz,shoot straight whatever you shoot and have fun.
And thats where  "skybusting" comes from.

Every shot shell made has its range.. Just because you use hevi shot doesn't mean you eliminate cripples. It simply means you are shooting further and maybe even causing more cripples...

Know your range with whatever you shoot.  Hevi shot isn't a magic. I think it breeds a mindset of  "I shoot the spendy shells.  I can shoot at em further"


But I stand by my feelings that if you cant get birds into consistant killing range of the "cheap" shells.  You have to work on your tactics.



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by on 07/29/2011 2:50 PM | Reply #19 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/26/2010
Location: nd
Aggiefan, sounds to me like snow has it figured out how what and how he wants to shoot. I've hunted my whole life and I'm a above average shot. I still skybust too and will continue. That's my choice. Have a good weekend!
Live hard! Die happy!
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by on 07/29/2011 3:03 PM | Reply #20 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/29/2003
Location: MN
+aggie,

Until you try this ammo,don't assume,talk to anyone that shoots hevi shot and you'll here a story.

Tactic's you say? Been in the waterfowl game for over 40 years,shot ducks and geese from mexico to alaska and several states in between not to mention canada 5 months outof the year,we start in sept and end in april,usually take january off..

PS~ I hardly think shooting hevi metal is a ego thing at $17/box but more of a performance thing,think about it,whats heavier and more dense than lead? whats the benifit? If ya don't no then don't judge and don't assume.Again shoot your blue box and be happy you can knock down birds,some of us shoot less and knock down the same amount of birds and we're happy.

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Benelli usa
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