Walsh County Sheriff fires Deputy after election

Well without knowing the whole jist of it I am pretty positive that every company I've worked for has a retaliation policy in place so crap like that doesn't happen...what happened to shaking hands after a good competition?!

They talked about this on KFGO saying that it is legal according to the NDCC. It doesn't sound to be very moral, who hasn't had a gripe with somebody that they worked with?

  I heard that the sheriff found out about it when he saw a petition in a business one day.  The deputy didn't have the decency to talk to him first if that's the case.  Makes one wonder what else was going on we haven't heard about.

I feel there should be a law that only allows a deputy to be fired under these circumstances by the county commissioners for at least a year or so.  At least there would be more than one person willing to put their re-election in jeopardy.  And the should be impartial for the most part.

Yeah, i have received a response from a ND States Office. "Generally, in North Dakota, an employee can quit at any time and an employer can fire an employee at any time and for any reason. Personnel decisions (including termination of an employee) fall within the authority of the head of the agency and those decisions are between the employee and the employer."  

I get this and even if the Deputy went around the Sheriff to get on the ballot I assume he had legit reasons (IE getting fired before the election).

Seems to me these Sheriff elections if nothing else should garner some protection or something.  An incumbent may not always be the best man but is generally the best vote getter.  Competition is good.

I live in Pembina county, about 1 mile north of the Walsh county line and from what I've heard about this there was a lot more than what has been posted so far going on. I'm not defending anyone by any means, but if in fact the deputy was spreading outright lies about the sheriff during the election he should have been smart enough to figure out there could be ramifications to that later on. If I was going to campaign for my bosses job, I think I'd keep the campaign on the up and up. Such as sticking to what I would do if elected, instead of lying about what my boss was doing on the clock.

There's always two sides to every story.  I'm open to hearing the other side (Mr. Wild's side.)  Let's get some details and proof.  My point is what was the lies?  What did he say and was it a lie or was it truth?  As a deputy i bet he see's alot more than the average person in that office.  Based on any Sheriff's power i'd suspect that the word of official misconduct doesn't leave that office in any County on average.  The Sheriff as i understand answers to no one on the County level.  I have a completely new perspective on that position for voting/representation purposes.  Questioning authority isn't a bad thing.

BOUTDOORS Said:
There's always two sides to every story.  I'm open to hearing the other side (Mr. Wild's side.)  Let's get some details and proof.  My point is what was the lies?  What did he say and was it a lie or was it truth?  As a deputy i bet he see's alot more than the average person in that office.  Based on any Sheriff's power i'd suspect that the word of official misconduct doesn't leave that office in any County on average.  The Sheriff as i understand answers to no one on the County level.  I have a completely new perspective on that position for voting/representation purposes.  Questioning authority isn't a bad thing.

I don't disagree with you a bit, and yes, every side has AT LEAST TWO SIDES, sometimes more than that! I have a friend in Grafton who says he heard Nord tell a bald faced lie about Wild however he didn't elaborate on what it was and I didn't ask.

Myself, I have little respect for most local law enforcement in the small cities. Seems like they get a gun and badge and they think they are above the law. They'll set up DUI check points (for clarification purposes I don't drink at all) while on duty yet some of those officers are the drunkest drivers on the road on the way home from mens night at the golf course every week. As soon as they turn the emergency lights on the car they think they are above speeding and care required laws, there are many accidents caused by cops responding to a minor traffic accident at high speeds and needlessly hurting others. And the list can go on and on.

I don't believe Wild was justified in firing Nord no matter what was said during the election. One would expect that they could shake hands the next day and go on harrassing and intimidating, oops, I mean protecting and serving the communities after the election.

Bowhuntin Said:
I live in Pembina county, about 1 mile north of the Walsh county line and from what I've heard about this there was a lot more than what has been posted so far going on. I'm not defending anyone by any means, but if in fact the deputy was spreading outright lies about the sheriff during the election he should have been smart enough to figure out there could be ramifications to that later on. If I was going to campaign for my bosses job, I think I'd keep the campaign on the up and up. Such as sticking to what I would do if elected, instead of lying about what my boss was doing on the clock.

that would be a great presentation to make to the county commissioners and let them decide.

I live in Pembina county and am a Law enforcement officer on the federal level. I get fed up with things to. Like having deputies pass me when I am doing the speed limit and they are not on a call. Like never getting them to write tickets for people speeding through the small town I live in. I haven't heard what Mr. Nord may have said, but I do know Sheriff Wild and am sure he had a good reason.

For clarification purposes, my comments about law enforcement weren't all encompassing, they were only in reference to "county mounties."

For example both game wardens and highway patrolmen are a cut above the county guys. They have a degree and act very professional, I've never had a problem with either of those. But in my opinion you take someone with a high school education that can't get a real job, send them through some rudimentary training for a couple months, then give them a badge, gun and fast car it's a recipe for disaster.   

Really, Bow?
In one ignorant statement, you slammed all 'county mounties" - but have you walked an inch in thier shoes?  They have "real jobs" and in most cases, as real or moreso than yours, I presume. They've chosen and committed to a career that is challenging, dangerous and vital to our way of life.  Many of them do have college degrees, and part of their training is dealing with idiots who think they're immune from the law.
They agree to risk their life if necessary to protect yours, even if that liklihood isn't that common (but i bet it is more common that you will ever know). It sounds like you have an axe to grind with law enforcement.

As for the Sheriff firing the competition, that's the way life is and Deputy should've thought that through before running for the position and campaigning while getting paid to work for the boss. Not saying it should happen here, or in every other election, but it is understandable if the Sheriff feels he can't trust the Deputy or count on his support going forward. We don't know what was said or done to cause the Sheriff's lack of confidence, and it really isn't our business anyway as it's between the employer (elected) and employee - there is no 'right to keep a job no matter what' so find another job!

elkhunt Said:
I live in Pembina county and am a Law enforcement officer on the federal level. I get fed up with things to. Like having deputies pass me when I am doing the speed limit and they are not on a call. Like never getting them to write tickets for people speeding through the small town I live in. I haven't heard what Mr. Nord may have said, but I do know Sheriff Wild and am sure he had a good reason.

So you are a law enforcment officer, and you come on fishing buddy outdoors to cry about being passed by others, and you cant do anything about it, you are on a FEDERAL LEVEL?  you sound a little byas and caybaby to me, and you know sheriff wild and he hasnt done anything about your concerns about never getting them to write tickets, and you still think he has a good reason?  go cry somewhere else!!!

onpoint,
In fact I didn't lump them all together, there are some in county law enforcement that do a fine job. There are many who don't however, and instead use their position of authority to flaunt the laws themselves. Elkhunt, who is also in law enforcement pointed out several of the things I routinely witness.

Actually I don't have an axe to grind with them, I have a clean record and haven't much contact with them at all. But from living in a small town my entire life I've witnessed enough antics of young (usually the younger ones are the worst) sheriff deputies to form what I consider a valid opinion of them.

I find it interesting that you would criticize me on one hand, then state that you condone a sheriff firing one of his deputies for in the sheriffs own words, running against him. I don't know all the details on the issue, everything I know is hearsay so I'm not taking a hard stand either way. But it would seem that a 20 year veteran of the sheriffs department shouldn't be afraid to run for the sheriffs position. And it would also seem a sheriff firing a 20 year deputy for running against him in the election would add some substance to my claim that they aren't above using their position of authority in their own best interests.

bow-kill, not my jurisdiction. Sorry I was just putting in my two cents. By the way, I wasn't talking about getting passed in Walsh county. I was talking about Pembina county.