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Unmanned border entery- wtf?

by , Posted to on 12/12/2011 07:55 AM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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U.S. Proposes Unmanned Border Entry With Mexico

Published December 11, 2011

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The bloody drug war in Mexico shows no sign of relenting. Neither do calls for tighter border security amid rising fears of spillover violence.

This hardly seems a time the U.S. would be willing to allow people to cross the border legally from Mexico without a customs officer in sight. But in this rugged, remote West Texas terrain where wading across the shallow Rio Grande undetected is all too easy, federal authorities are touting a proposal to open an unmanned port of entry as a security upgrade.

 

By the spring, kiosks could open up in Big Bend National Park allowing people from the tiny Mexican town of Boquillas del Carmen to scan their identity documents and talk to a customs officer in another location, at least 100 miles away.

The crossing, which would be the nation's first such port of entry with Mexico, has sparked opposition from some who see it as counterintuitive in these days of heightened border security. Supporters say the crossing would give the isolated Mexican town long-awaited access to U.S. commerce, improve conservation efforts and be an unlikely target for criminal operations.

"People that want to be engaged in illegal activities along the border, ones that are engaged in those activities now, they're still going to do it," said William Wellman, Big Bend National Park's superintendent. "But you'd have to be a real idiot to pick the only place with security in 300 miles of the border to try to sneak across."

The proposed crossing from Boquillas del Carmen leads to a vast expanse of rolling scrub, cut by sandy-floored canyons and violent volcanic rock outcroppings. The Chihuahuan desert wilderness is home to mountain lions, black bears and roadrunners, sparsely populated by an occasional camper and others visiting the 800,000-acre national park.

Customs and Border Protection, which would run the port of entry, says the proposal is a safe way to allow access to the town's residents, who currently must travel 240 road miles to the nearest legal entry point. It also would allow park visitors to visit the town.

If the crossing is approved, Border Patrol would have eight agents living in the park in addition to the park's 23 law enforcement rangers.

"I think it's actually going to end up making security better," CBP spokesman William Brooks said.

"Once you've crossed you're still not anywhere. You've got a long ways to go and we've got agents who are in the area. We have agents who patrol. We have checkpoints on the paved roads leading away from the park."

A public comment period runs through Dec. 27 on the estimated $2.3 million project, which has support at the highest levels of government from both countries.

But U.S. Rep. Michael McCaul, a Texas Republican member of the House Homeland Security committee, questioned the wisdom of using resources to make it easier to cross the border.

"We need to use our resources to secure the border rather than making it easier to enter in locations where we already have problems with illegal crossings," McCaul said in an email. "There is more to the oversight of legal entry than checking documents. (U.S. Customs and Border Protection) needs to be physically present at every point of entry in order to inspect for contraband, detect suspicious behavior and, if necessary, act on what they encounter."

While CBP will run the port of entry, the National Park Service is the driver behind the project, which it hopes will help conservation efforts on both sides of the border. Even as the National Park Service has increased cooperation with its Mexican counterpart, joint conservation has been limited by the inability of personnel to cross the border without making a circuitous 16-hour drive, Wellman said.

So the National Park Service is building the contact station just above the Rio Grande. It will house CBP kiosks where crossers will scan in their documents and talk to a customs officer in Presidio, the nearest port of entry, or another remote location. Park service employees will staff the station, offering information about the park and guiding people through the process.

Similar ports of entry are already in operation on remote parts of the border with Canada.

"We think we can do this without doing any damage to national security and possibly enhance security along the border by having better intelligence, better communication with people in Mexico," Wellman said.

The crossing would also restore a long-running relationship between the park, its visitors and the residents of Boquillas del Carmen, the town of adobe dwellings set a short distance from the river in Mexico.

For years, U.S. tourists added an international dimension to their park visit by wading or ferrying in a rowboat across the shallow Rio Grande to the town. There they bought handicrafts and tacos, providing much-needed cash in the isolated community.

But US officials discouraged such informal crossings in 2002 after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks prompted calls for tighter border security. Without access to tourists or supplies on the U.S. side, the town of just more than 100 people has seen a 42 percent drop in population from 2000 to 2010.

Gary Martin, who manages the Rio Grande Village store at a nearby park campground, recalls many Mexican residents crossing the river to pick up groceries and other necessities.

"We're their supply," Martin said. "They don't have any electricity over there. So they would come here and buy frozen chicken, cake mixes and things that they couldn't get over there."

Martin tried to stock food items Boquillas del Carmen residents wanted, such as eggs and big sacks of beans.

"After the border closed, well, I got rid of most of my food and went back to gifts because I wasn't making any money," Martin said. He estimated about 40 percent of the store's revenue came from Boquillas residents.

Few have risked crossing to the store since. "If they get caught over here they get shipped off," he said. "They get deported all the way to Ojinaga and then they've got to find their way home. It's not really worth it."

Still, most days some Boquillas del Carmen residents wade across the river a short distance downstream of the old crossing and scramble up to a paved overlook perched high above the river.

On boulders near the parking spots they lay out painted walking sticks, scorpions and roadrunners crafted from copper wire and colorful beads. Each craftsman's work occupies a different rock and operates on the honor system with the hope tourists will drop four or five dollars in their jar.

"Sometimes we don't sell anything," said Boquillas del Carmen resident Guillermo Gonzalez Diaz. "Sometimes we sell one." And other times authorities confiscate everything.

Gonzalez, a 34-year-old father of three, described his town as "very sad, very hard" and said there was no work. Without access to the Rio Grande Village store, residents depend on a bus that runs once a week to Melchor Muzquiz, a larger town about 150 miles away, for supplies.

A small military presence protects the town from the drug-related violence that has engulfed other Mexican border towns. Now with news of the port of entry, residents are already making plans for restaurants and shops, he said.

"When it closed nobody crossed and everything went downhill. People began to leave," he said. "Now people are going to return."

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Re: Unmanned border entery- wtf?
by on 12/12/2011 07:55 AM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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The grocery store self checkout for illegals?
"The only enemy of guns is rust and politicians."
“You can roll manure in powered sugar but it still ain’t a jelly donut”

"The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry."

William F. Buckley, Jr.
"Unarmed helplessness is for sheep and the French."  Ted Nugent



Re: Unmanned border entery- wtf?
by on 12/12/2011 08:41 AM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Haven't you ever heard of the honor system?
 
Re: Unmanned border entery- wtf?
by on 12/12/2011 09:32 AM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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mauserG33-40 Said:



Haven't you ever heard of the honor system?
Ha ha. that system rocks.

 

If we're not supposed to eat animals, how come they're made out of meat?

Re: Unmanned border entery- wtf?
by on 12/12/2011 09:56 AM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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I would expect nothing less of this administration.  It's an election year, you have to get your base of voters in place.
Re: Unmanned border entery- wtf?
by on 12/12/2011 09:58 AM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Wow this is f+cking stupid idea,, why the hell should we pay for a entry for there asses to get grocerys. Just dumbfounded by this

Re: Unmanned border entery- wtf?
by on 12/12/2011 10:21 AM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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" no electricity over there so they could come and buy frozen chicken and cake mixes"
There is a real democrat excuse  he forgot boost the economy in the US

Probably have directions to where the voting box is also in spanish.   At walmart on Saturday in Minot and there were 13 people in 2 of the checkouts and all speaking spanish not one word of english.  Minot offers 2.50 per hr more in you can speak spanish.  English is the language

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEJfS1v-fU0

The best democrat platform a Republican can stand on it a manure pile

drug test everyone on welfare

have an open season on molesters

Re: Unmanned border entery- wtf?
by on 12/12/2011 11:06 AM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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I don't know how those check points work, but if it does make it easier for illegals to cross, the main people who will jump for joy are the Bible Belters down there who hire them knowing full well they are illegal, simply to line their own pockets.  
 
Oh wait - A better idea!    Lets build a 4 billion fence and bid it out to some Conservative political donating American Contractors to build it with illegal workers who work for 4 - 5$  a day!  Now THAT makes a lot of sense!  That'll solve the problem!! 

Sorry, but every time I hear some ranting about those dratted illegals storming across the border and invading our fantastic country, I get nauseated and sick.  And every single time I head south along the border and see hundreds and hundreds of them waiting around the strip malls and getting picked up for 'day labor' by so called Patriotic Americans to cut their lawns, paint their house, etc.   I get pretty hot under the collar. 

And I thought part of being Conservative was being Patriotic!  Not Idiotic! 
Re: Unmanned border entery- wtf?
by on 12/12/2011 11:38 AM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Well i am not a bible beater,a contractor that has hired an illegal and also think the fence is  not the answer.  Now letting the 155's go down there instead of camp ripley i would be all in favor of that.  The only problem i see is not having a camp store like ripley
Re: Unmanned border entery- wtf?
by on 12/12/2011 3:18 PM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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How does this have anything to do with the current administration? This is the National Park Service that is proposing this.  Also, anytime someone brings up being offended by people only knowing spanish, I scratch my head.  Our country has never had a national language.  Until we draft legislation and/or amend the constitution, there will never be a national language.  Until this happens, complaining about people only knowing a different language than you (whichever it/they may be), only makes you sound ignorant.  Personally, I'm in favor of the national language and think it's past due.  
 
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Obama to slash National Guard force on U.S.-Mexico border|

By Stephen Dinan

The Washington Times

Monday, December 12, 2011



A Customs and Border Protection agent patrols by car along the U.S.-Mexico border in Nogales, Ariz., in April 2010. Arizona's section of the border is the busiest for smuggling drugs and people. (Associated Press)A Customs and Border Protection agent patrols by car along the U.S.-Mexico border in Nogales, Ariz., in April 2010. Arizona’s section of the border is the busiest for smuggling drugs and people. (Associated Press)





Citing budget cuts, the Obama administration early next year will cut the number of National Guard troops patrolling the U.S.-Mexico border by at least half, according to a congressman who was briefed on the plan.

The National Guard said an announcement will be made by the White House “in the near future,” but Rep. Duncan Hunter, a California Republican who has learned of the plans, said slashing the deployment in half is the minimum number, and he said it will mean reshuffling the remaining troops along the nearly 2,000-mile border.


In California, that will mean going from 264 guard troops down to just 14, he said.


Mr. Hunter said the pending cuts are another reason Congress and President Obama should revisit the automatic defense spending reductions that kicked in with the failure last month of the deficit supercommittee.


“What’s apparent now is that a decision not to continue their deployment, even though it might be in the national interest to do so, would be based entirely on budget constraints on the Defense Department,” Mr. Hunter said.


Mr. Obama deployed 1,200 guard troops to the border in June 2010 in an effort to bolster the U.S. Border Patrol and try to prevent the growing drug violence in Mexico from spilling into the U.S.


He charged the guard with aiding in intelligence gathering and other backup duties, though troops have not been actually enforcing immigration laws.


The troops were scheduled to be drawn down this June, but Mr. Obama extended their deployment, saying there was still work to be done.


The troops were meant to be a bridge to beef up support staffing while the Border Patrol hired more agents under a bill Congress passed early in his term.


A Homeland Security Department official said they have made progress in hiring and training new agents.


There were supposed to be nearly 21,500 agents in the Border Patrol as of Oct. 1, which represents an increase of 1,300 since Mr. Obama took control of the budgeting process in 2009.


Homeland Security officials say the boost in resources at the border has made the region safer. They pointed to the latest figures that showed illegal immigrants apprehended along the Southwest border fell to 327,577 in fiscal year 2011, down from 447,731 in 2010 and from 1.6 million in 2000, which was the peak year. Homeland security officials say fewer apprehensions means fewer people are trying to cross.


Sending guard troops to the border is a recurring strategy for administrations seeking an instant boost in security.


President George W. Bush deployed 6,000 guard troops in 2006 to counter criticism he wasn’t taking border security seriously. As with Mr. Obama, Mr. Bush said the agents were meant to be a bridge until the Border Patrol could hire more agents.


© Copyright 2011 The Washington Times, LLC. Click here for reprint permission.

"The only enemy of guns is rust and politicians."
“You can roll manure in powered sugar but it still ain’t a jelly donut”

"The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry."

William F. Buckley, Jr.
"Unarmed helplessness is for sheep and the French."  Ted Nugent



Re: Unmanned border entery- wtf?
by on 12/13/2011 09:29 AM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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bobkat Said:
I don't know how those check points work, but if it does make it easier for illegals to cross, the main people who will jump for joy are the Bible Belters down there who hire them knowing full well they are illegal, simply to line their own pockets.  
 
Oh wait - A better idea!    Lets build a 4 billion fence and bid it out to some Conservative political donating American Contractors to build it with illegal workers who work for 4 - 5$  a day!  Now THAT makes a lot of sense!  That'll solve the problem!! 

Sorry, but every time I hear some ranting about those dratted illegals storming across the border and invading our fantastic country, I get nauseated and sick.  And every single time I head south along the border and see hundreds and hundreds of them waiting around the strip malls and getting picked up for 'day labor' by so called Patriotic Americans to cut their lawns, paint their house, etc.   I get pretty hot under the collar. 

And I thought part of being Conservative was being Patriotic!  Not Idiotic! 
Aren't you from Canada?   Are you for or against letting illegals into the USA?   Kind of hard to figure out from your comments.   People from all walks of life brake the law and hire illegals.   Just because one so called "conservative" does it doesn't mean it is right and shouldn't diminish the argument.   It is illegal for illegals to come here and our federal government should stop it and ENFORCE EXISTING LAW.   What a novel f-ing concept.   Something bobkat can't seem to grasp. 

"The only enemy of guns is rust and politicians."
“You can roll manure in powered sugar but it still ain’t a jelly donut”

"The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry."

William F. Buckley, Jr.
"Unarmed helplessness is for sheep and the French."  Ted Nugent



Re: Unmanned border entery- wtf?
by on 12/13/2011 09:36 AM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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3XGutshot Said:
 
Aren't you from Canada?   Are you for or against letting illegals into the USA?   Kind of hard to figure out from your comments.   People from all walks of life brake the law and hire illegals.   Just because one so called "conservative" does it doesn't mean it is right and shouldn't diminish the argument.   It is illegal for illegals to come here and our federal government should stop it and ENFORCE EXISTING LAW.   What a novel f-ing concept.   Something bobkat can't seem to grasp. 



 

If we're not supposed to eat animals, how come they're made out of meat?

Re: Unmanned border entery- wtf?
by on 12/13/2011 09:40 AM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Freezer filler Said:
How does this have anything to do with the current administration? This is the National Park Service that is proposing this.  Also, anytime someone brings up being offended by people only knowing spanish, I scratch my head.  Our country has never had a national language.  Until we draft legislation and/or amend the constitution, there will never be a national language.  Until this happens, complaining about people only knowing a different language than you (whichever it/they may be), only makes you sound ignorant.  Personally, I'm in favor of the national language and think it's past due.  
has it not always been a condition of obtaining U.S. citizenship, to understand and speak english? 

Re: Unmanned border entery- wtf?
by on 12/13/2011 09:41 AM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Freezer filler Said:
How does this have anything to do with the current administration? This is the National Park Service that is proposing this.  Also, anytime someone brings up being offended by people only knowing spanish, I scratch my head.  Our country has never had a national language.  Until we draft legislation and/or amend the constitution, there will never be a national language.  Until this happens, complaining about people only knowing a different language than you (whichever it/they may be), only makes you sound ignorant.  Personally, I'm in favor of the national language and think it's past due.  

who do you think the national park service falls under.  if you can't figure it out, it's the current administration.  my wife works for the national park service.  which is actually under the dept. of interior.  which is under the current administration. 
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by on 12/13/2011 11:48 AM | Reply #16 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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3XGutshot Said:
bobkat Said:
I don't know how those check points work, but if it does make it easier for illegals to cross, the main people who will jump for joy are the Bible Belters down there who hire them knowing full well they are illegal, simply to line their own pockets.  
 
Oh wait - A better idea!    Lets build a 4 billion fence and bid it out to some Conservative political donating American Contractors to build it with illegal workers who work for 4 - 5$  a day!  Now THAT makes a lot of sense!  That'll solve the problem!! 

Sorry, but every time I hear some ranting about those dratted illegals storming across the border and invading our fantastic country, I get nauseated and sick.  And every single time I head south along the border and see hundreds and hundreds of them waiting around the strip malls and getting picked up for 'day labor' by so called Patriotic Americans to cut their lawns, paint their house, etc.   I get pretty hot under the collar. 

And I thought part of being Conservative was being Patriotic!  Not Idiotic! 
Aren't you from Canada?   Are you for or against letting illegals into the USA?   Kind of hard to figure out from your comments.   People from all walks of life brake the law and hire illegals.   Just because one so called "conservative" does it doesn't mean it is right and shouldn't diminish the argument.   It is illegal for illegals to come here and our federal government should stop it and ENFORCE EXISTING LAW.   What a novel f-ing concept.   Something bobkat can't seem to grasp. 

A lot of farms in this country would go out of business without illegal workers.

 
Re: Unmanned border entery- wtf?
by on 12/13/2011 11:50 AM | Reply #17 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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eyexer Saidhas it not always been a condition of obtaining U.S. citizenship, to understand and speak english? 

Hell yeah....from the USCIS.gov website on citizenship requirements:

Be able to read, write, and speak English and have knowledge and an understanding of U.S. history and government (civics).


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by on 12/13/2011 12:26 PM | Reply #18 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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dpgunsmith Said:
eyexer Saidhas it not always been a condition of obtaining U.S. citizenship, to understand and speak english? 

Hell yeah....from the USCIS.gov website on citizenship requirements:

Be able to read, write, and speak English and have knowledge and an understanding of U.S. history and government (civics).


It only applies if they intend to vote Republican
 

If we're not supposed to eat animals, how come they're made out of meat?

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by on 12/13/2011 1:30 PM | Reply #19 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Yeah, originally 3X!  Back when the only people they let in were needed immigrants mostly in professional fields.  AND I had to wait an entire year for an immigration number.  Green carded for 5 years, then sworn in, etc.  Never missed an election, never cheated on my taxes (paid more than I had to that the IRS found during and audit!)   raised my kids, educated every one of through college, taught all kinds of students (for no pay or anything, of course) for 30 years, looked after all kinds of medicad recipients and helped some of them out of the rut BTW, worked my buns off both before I came here and ever since, till I had to retire following a back surgery and stroke.  
No one ever hired me illegally.  Paid my dues!!  Tried to make it a better country, though I'm not bragging, just reponding to your absolute stupid post!   You want double barrels, you get it!

Now what did you do to get an American citizenship??   An accident of birth?  Must have been a double accident cause the best of you must have ran down.........ah well......
Re: Unmanned border entery- wtf?
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Oh, I've never hired an illegal either!
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