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Trolling Plates

I am looking at maybe buying a trolling plate for my boat as I am not in the position to buy the new trolling motor that I want. My big motor doesn't slow down enough to effectivly fish different presentations except for trolling cranks in the heat of the summer. Any suggestions on what type of trolling plates?? pros/cons?? thanks in advance.

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Murdock has one he should answer soon

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???? Anyone ????

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Pull a drift sock than you dont have to deal with trolling plates at all.

 

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I have a similar question to piggy back on yours, which plate has the least affect on performance when not in use?

 

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Eric T

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Hey archer do you use the drift sock while trolling with the big motor?? That would be a very cost effective way to slow down!! Thanks

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Here is the problem I have had with drift socks used for trolling, out the back you can get line tangles if your back a ways, too close and your in the motor. Out the side and you loose control of boat. Only other option I have not tried is two, one off each side.

 

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Eric T

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I am looking at this one.

http://www.savvyboater.com/p-35-easy-troller-trolling-plate.aspx

They want $99.00 for it while Cabelas has the same exact thing for $139.00.

 

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Eric T

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waly i think I am going to order the one right below the one you are looking at. It looks like you never have to touch it, it just falls into place when you get ready to troll and pops out of the way when you go to cruising speed. I would think you would never know it was there. And the best thing is it is only about $65. If it doesn't work for me then I am not out much.

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one drift sock - tie to front eye and drop under the boat. simple easy - you wont lose control of the boat

Stay thirsty my friends

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Never have tried one of the bow eye.......

TGL- Cabelas has that same one for $69.00, so check there SH, might be cheaper to buy it through them. The only thing that would concern me with that one is going in reverse. The plate would be down and with where our place is on Devils and fighting the waves, when loading, sometimes I need all the reverse action I can get.

 

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Eric T

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Drift socks add control to your boat whether it be drifting or backtrolling.  While drifting it allows you to make minor changes if you are drifting over a flat or the top of an island.  While backtrolling you can use the sock to keep both the bow and the transom of your boat moving along the same line (such as trolling over a contour line).  Socks, however, will affect your ability to an extent on making drastic changes such as cuts or tight points.

Personally, I haven't had issue with line tangles except during user error and that should be to a minimum after getting to know the boundaries.  Say walynut, what are you using the bags to slow you down for?  Trolling cranks, live bait or what?  I have a backtroller of course and have used a bag to slow me down to pull cranks.  I toss it out the bow and let it fill just below the bow.  I don't like that but it works (it steals from turning quickly).  I had to do that because my usual method of slowing my boat down quite working (my electric motor burnt out).  Other than that, I use bags while backtrolling and have no complaints at all in that regard.

Tim Sandstrom

P.S.  Maybe you should just get a smaller boat...heh, heh!  But on a serious note have you thought about getting these bad boys?  http://www.minnkotamotors.com/products/motors/detail.asp?pg=fem


 

 

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Control of boat, I agree when drifting or backdrifting, but I was talking about going forward trolling. I dont make it a habbit to backtroll because I dont have slashguards. Looking to slow it down for all, cranks live baits ect but also the downriggers. Also I am talking about plating a 150 HP w/ a 19 pitch prop, so even with the engine just engaged, i'm still at about 3 MPH's. I might have a few more options if it were a smaller engine.

I would like to run that Minnkota set up but a grand plus and needing 3 more batteries (Couldn't live without the 36 volt)plus storage, it's just not in the cards.

I would love to get a nice kicker motor to but..........

 

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Eric T

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If you are looking at the springloaded plate it works great going forward. Found on my boat that by drilling a 3-4 inch hole right at the prop center it helped greatly going backwards.

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What size of motor do you have. I have a trolling plate thats in my garage and would be willing to sell for a reasonable price. Its the automatic one that flips up on its own, has a heavy spring in it that keeps it down during slow speeds. It came off a 75hp motor and worked well. Shoot me an email at kjboss@msn.com


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Cheap bastardization of a drift sock is a 5 gallon bucket or two dropped into the water. I suggest drilling a couple holes in the bottom, one or two inches in diameter.

If you get a trolling pan, make sure it has a break-away feature so that when you hit the throttle you don't bend the heck out of it. No specific model/manufacturer in mind, but the break-away feature is a must.

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I employ the drift sock off the bow method to slow me down when pulling cranks. Mine takes a 30" J&B to get her to under 2mph. I have a 18ft Lund with a 115 Merc 40 stroke. For drifting I use a 72" off the side and sometmes the 30" off the back at the same time.

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drift sock on the front when going forward works but its a PITA to use.....

 

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By the way, my 40 stroke gets great gas mileage.

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walynut,

Seriously, why would you want to plate a $15-17k motor (new) and rack all those trolling hours up on it? You are wasting fuel and putting your pocket book at risk by running your big motor 3, 4, 5, XX times more than you would if you were only using it for point A to point B transportation.

With the cost of maintenance and repair on those big engines, plus the obvious wasting of gas to run a big engine when you waste the thrust by plating, it may not take long to convince yourself a kicker is important.

Before I get too preachy, let me just say that I didn't/don't intend for it to come across that way and I do not run a trolling plate on my main motor (75 HP) for basically that reason. If I can't get her to troll down to the speed I need, I switch techniques.

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My best advice is to try the trolling bag system described here:

http://www.lindylittlejoe.com/fishing_tips/drift_control_tips/trolling_d...

Not only will this twin bag trolling system slow you down, it will greatly enhance your boat control as well. It's like adding 4 wheel drive to your boat.

This system will work far better than any trolling plate and its easier on your engine too, because there is no exhaust back pressure like you get from a plate.

Jim Carroll NPAA #13

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If anyone wants a trolling plate I sold my boat and took the plate off now it's just sittin in my garage. Came off of a 75hp Evinrude, worked great on that motor. If someone wants it for cheap give me a call 250 0974 eric.

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where does a guy get one em aaahhhh 40 stroke solocam? That there da der d d valves must be screamin to take 40 strokes to get the gas in and exhaust out? Or is that a 4 stroke and your gf is some involved with the other 36?

on another note ==== this week is too long - its too cold here in the east. We need some open water.

Stay thirsty my friends

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Ha ha, I'mstill laughing at solocams 40 stroke.  I bet that sucker gets awesome gas mileage.

Tim Sandstrom


 

 

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Jim,

That's pretty ironic on how my buddy and I were actually in the process of doing pretty much what that article says.  I guess, while cranking in dead calm conditions over the Casino Cup (or I think its now called the Walleye Cup) I was wondering how I could slow it down.  I had one bag out the bow but the dang thing stole a lot of control as far as quick turning (following sharp contours).  So while trolling we sat and pondered up some ideas and one was utilizing two bags back further on the boat so the bow wasn't so bogged down.  We never enacted it but its neat to see we were onto something!

Still, I have a concern on the response on trolling sharp breaks or points.  Doesn't it still slow the boats response time?  Of course, I might be partial to it because I usually am a backtroller and backtrolling always (98% of the time)  gives much better response than bow trolling.  Anyway, please be honest and share whether you've still noticed the "bow lag".  Much appreciated!

Tim Sandstrom


 

 

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I suppose I should tell the whole story.  During prefishing my electric motor burnt up.  I have it on the transom and used that to slow me down.  It actually worked quite well but when that went out I had to throw out a bag.  How many out there use their electric motors to slow them down?  Of course, you'd have to have a transom mount because the bow would probably steal from boat control.  Just curious what everyone else does?  I'll probably continue to use my eletric motor but I learned a person needs a backup!

Tim Sandstrom


 

 

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Allen,

Nope, not being preachy. I totally agree with you and allow me to further explain.

I have a 24 volt autopilot/copilot minnkota on my boat that does well for trolling. The reason why I am looking for a plate is for that in between time. When the wind and waves get going, sometimes the trolling motor isn't enough but the big motor is too much, thats the in between time.

As a note, I do not troll that much, probably no more than 3-5 times per year, none if I had the total choice, usually in late July first week of Aug. Honestly, I can not stand it but sometimes I am forced to do it and just want the capability.

As a note for Devils, I typically will only fish 2-11 feet of water during the entire summer.

 

Good Luck and Good Fishin'

Eric T