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Just kinda curious on what people think about using Tillers or having a stering wheel and power stering in the boat. I have grwon up on Tiller motors and have always really enjoyed them and have had very few problems with them. I know most boats with tillers are smaller boats probably 16 and a 1/2 feet and smaller. It helps to get you into alot of spots bigger boats cant get to especially on the river. I just bought a new boat this summer with a tiller and really enjoy it. Just wanted to hear the negatives and positives of the different types and what you guys prefer.  

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To fish out of I'd take a tiller any day.  But to run from spot to spot I'd take a wheel boat.  When I was younger I only desired to have a tiller.  But now that I'm old I only want a windshield.  I fish late in the fall quite a bit so a tiller gets a little harsh that time of year. 

 

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 I have both.  I prefer the wheel but maybe that's cause I just recently got one.  Tillers are nice but after a full day of running up and down the river my hand gets tired.  Small but the only real reason I like the wheel over the tiller.  Oh and you can see better while driving considering your not stuck to the back of the boat

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It takes a man to run a tiller.

I say to hell with that pot o' gold.

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It takes a man to run a tiller.

I don't know, there's some chicks out in the patch that could probably run a 150 tiller

 

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 I have both now.  The tiller gets more use due to the fact that it is more versatile for smaller waters and rivers.  I will take my wheel boat for big water with nice ramps.  Nothing like busting chop at 60mph and staying dry.

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 Can't beat the amount of room you have on a tiller. I agree with you ahab, it's nice to stay dry on a rough day so I enjoy the old mans boat on those days. 


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I agree that there are cold days where a windshied would be nice to stay warm but i don't find myself much wetter than those with a windshield except for maybe a strong side wind,but your going to get wet those days in any boat.  It would be hard for me to go to a wheel boat just because of the fishability and the room of a tiller!

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Without hydraulic assist too! 

eyexer Said:

ggenthusiast Said:
It takes a man to run a tiller.

I don't know, there's some chicks out in the patch that could probably run a 150 tiller

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Pro V1 Said:
Without hydraulic assist too! 

eyexer Said:

ggenthusiast Said:
It takes a man to run a tiller.

I don't know, there's some chicks out in the patch that could probably run a 150 tiller

 

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Ya you do get a bit wet if you have a cross wind but if you just slow it down a bit that fixes that problem. The space is what i really like. I have 16 and 1/2 footer and fishes three guys easy. Windshields do take up quite a bit of space but if you have to get back to the boat ramp and its raining they are great.  IF i buy a new boat in the future not sure what i will get its going to be very hard for me to get anything else but a boat with a Tiller.

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HNT4LIF Said:
I agree that there are cold days where a windshied would be nice to stay warm but i don't find myself much wetter than those with a windshield except for maybe a strong side wind,but your going to get wet those days in any boat.  It would be hard for me to go to a wheel boat just because of the fishability and the room of a tiller!

Ding ding, we have a winner!

I don't own a wheel boat but I have been in them.  In conditions like forced to quarter cut rough water with wind in face there is no such thing as a dry boat.  Ya sure, the guy behind the windshield might be a little drier on the front side of his shirt but the back will be wet.  His passengers in the rear of the boat will be wetter.

Wheel boats will keep the wind off you.  But most people are fair weather fisherman.  If they aren't, then I don't know why I never see more on the water after Labor Day.  Granted, I am hardly on the water myself as so much to do in the fall but I live in an area that I am by the water and boat ramps.  She's a ghost town.

That said, I like the fishability of a tiller.  To be fair, tillers use to dominate boat control but now technology has finally allowed wheel boats to compete and compete well.  Electric motors, better steering in big wheel, the kickers have troll master technology, etc.  So I basically give that up now.  Although, I still stand by steering from the transom allows you better control in windier conditions.  Boat just stays more true with direction and speed.  The downside is you take on water and eat up the electricity if using electric motors.  But man, I cannot stand that "blllllrrrr bip, bip, bip" (my attempt to make a sound that a bow mount electric motor makes as it bobs in and out of the water on a windy day.  Nor can I stand when live baiting the lines get slack because the wind takes the boat off track and as the guy running the bow tries to correct it the boat slows.

I'll admit a bow mount is nice for the in-between wind conditions.  You can run the bow pretty nice.  River fishing the bow mount would probably prevail too.  Although, I've seen plenty of tiller on the river when joy riding or doing my own limited fishing.

The floor layout of a tiller wins in my opinion.  Just more room for everything.  No hot windshields to sit behind.  While advantage during cold wind running the windshield stinks when it is hot and you yearn for a breeze to help take the heat off.  Plus we all know what sun does when it hits glass. 

I'll run a tiller.  I will have one more before I start to wonder if I want a wheel boat.  But with todays hydraulic steering and 4 strokes a tiller can go just about as fast as a wheel boat.  But I'm no 60 mile an hour guy.  Give me 50 with the ability to crack the low 50's and I'm happy enough.  Anything faster in a tiller starts to suck a little.  Although, when it gets windy or rainy you watch the wheel guys peeking their head over the windshield trying to see where they are going just like I try to deal with the sting of a rain drop.


 

 

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Forgot to say, a lot of times wet boats are from people who don't know how to run the trim!


 

 

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Tim Sandstrom Said:

HNT4LIF Said:
I agree that there are cold days where a windshied would be nice to stay warm but i don't find myself much wetter than those with a windshield except for maybe a strong side wind,but your going to get wet those days in any boat.  It would be hard for me to go to a wheel boat just because of the fishability and the room of a tiller!

Ding ding, we have a winner!

I don't own a wheel boat but I have been in them.  In conditions like forced to quarter cut rough water with wind in face there is no such thing as a dry boat.  Ya sure, the guy behind the windshield might be a little drier on the front side of his shirt but the back will be wet.  His passengers in the rear of the boat will be wetter.

Wheel boats will keep the wind off you.  But most people are fair weather fisherman.  If they aren't, then I don't know why I never see more on the water after Labor Day.  Granted, I am hardly on the water myself as so much to do in the fall but I live in an area that I am by the water and boat ramps.  She's a ghost town.

That said, I like the fishability of a tiller.  To be fair, tillers use to dominate boat control but now technology has finally allowed wheel boats to compete and compete well.  Electric motors, better steering in big wheel, the kickers have troll master technology, etc.  So I basically give that up now.  Although, I still stand by steering from the transom allows you better control in windier conditions.  Boat just stays more true with direction and speed.  The downside is you take on water and eat up the electricity if using electric motors.  But man, I cannot stand that "blllllrrrr bip, bip, bip" (my attempt to make a sound that a bow mount electric motor makes as it bobs in and out of the water on a windy day.  Nor can I stand when live baiting the lines get slack because the wind takes the boat off track and as the guy running the bow tries to correct it the boat slows.

I'll admit a bow mount is nice for the in-between wind conditions.  You can run the bow pretty nice.  River fishing the bow mount would probably prevail too.  Although, I've seen plenty of tiller on the river when joy riding or doing my own limited fishing.

The floor layout of a tiller wins in my opinion.  Just more room for everything.  No hot windshields to sit behind.  While advantage during cold wind running the windshield stinks when it is hot and you yearn for a breeze to help take the heat off.  Plus we all know what sun does when it hits glass. 

I'll run a tiller.  I will have one more before I start to wonder if I want a wheel boat.  But with todays hydraulic steering and 4 strokes a tiller can go just about as fast as a wheel boat.  But I'm no 60 mile an hour guy.  Give me 50 with the ability to crack the low 50's and I'm happy enough.  Anything faster in a tiller starts to suck a little.  Although, when it gets windy or rainy you watch the wheel guys peeking their head over the windshield trying to see where they are going just like I try to deal with the sting of a rain drop.

I never thought I would say this, but I couldn't get wet trying once on plane with my wheel boat.  I tried in 2-3 foot chop and I couldn't even get a drop on the windshield(maybe some mist at best).  2011 621 Ranger.  

I love my tiller boat, but it is a wet SOB.  It is an older aluminum that wasn't designed to be dry either though.  The fancy fiberglass tillers are a much drier ride I'm sure.

"Diligence is the mother of good luck."

"The constitution only gives people the right to pursue hapiness.  You have to catch it yourself."

"Well done is better than well said."

"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

All by:  Benjamin Franklin.

"The solution to any problem - work, love, money, whatever - is to go fishing, and the bigger the problem, the longer the trip should be."

Author: John Gierach

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 Tillers have an advantage on moving water rivers or if you want to be able to get more people in a smaller boat but that's about it IMO.  A well equipped regular boat with a kicker, 100+lb thrust electrics, iPilot, Trollmaster, and the works will easily give you all the control you'll ever need. Add to that the comfort and being able to talk and plan while your running 50-60mph from place to place there's a reason most tourney and guides don't run tillers.  And in cold windy early spring or late fall conditions they can't be beat.  

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I prefer to not sit next to a loud, smelly, vibrating, motor.
 To each their own, however I really have never seen the benefit of sitting in the back of the boat and holding unto the motor.
I have owned both, and can say there really isnt more room than the front of my ProV
I could about park a Prius in the front of that boat. How much room does a guy need to have that they cant have a windshield in the boat?

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johnr Said:
I prefer to not sit next to a loud, smelly, vibrating, motor.
 To each their own, however I really have never seen the benefit of sitting in the back of the boat and holding unto the motor.
I have owned both, and can say there really isnt more room than the front of my ProV
I could about park a Prius in the front of that boat. How much room does a guy need to have that they cant have a windshield in the boat?

Are you Gary Roach or Ron Lindner?

"Diligence is the mother of good luck."

"The constitution only gives people the right to pursue hapiness.  You have to catch it yourself."

"Well done is better than well said."

"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

All by:  Benjamin Franklin.

"The solution to any problem - work, love, money, whatever - is to go fishing, and the bigger the problem, the longer the trip should be."

Author: John Gierach

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Tim Sandstrom Said:
Forgot to say, a lot of times wet boats are from people who don't know how to run the trim!

Or if your boat says LUND on the side.

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Captain Ahab Said:

johnr Said:
I prefer to not sit next to a loud, smelly, vibrating, motor.
 To each their own, however I really have never seen the benefit of sitting in the back of the boat and holding unto the motor.
I have owned both, and can say there really isnt more room than the front of my ProV
I could about park a Prius in the front of that boat. How much room does a guy need to have that they cant have a windshield in the boat?

Are you Gary Roach or Ron Lindner?

I am johnr, however in this picture I would be Roach, as I always sit in the front, and keep the riff raff in the back...

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I  have a 20 ft. lund Alaskan tiller and  most days if there are waves of any size or a cross wind I get wet. the fishable area in the boat is incredible compared to a console boat. I am thinking of a different boat it will be  a glass tiller  or console boat.

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riverview Said:
I  have a 20 ft. lund Alaskan tiller and  most days if there are waves of any size or a cross wind I get wet. the fishable area in the boat is incredible compared to a console boat. I am thinking of a different boat it will be  a glass tiller  or console boat.

The Alaskan is a great boat but it wasn't designed to keep you dry that's for sure.

 

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Hey Johner have you used a 4 stroke tiller before. There is no vibration and those four strokes are about as quite as they get. Yes when you got it wide open it can be hard to talk to the guys in the boat. It takes a more expierenced fisherman to run a boat with a tiller

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fact is that windshield boats are nice to get somewhere, and tillers are way better to fish out of.

who here as ever saw a lady driving a tiller boat?

I say to hell with that pot o' gold.

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I have a pro -v roach addition and luv it.

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I run Lund pro -v roach addition and luv it learning how to stay dry is the tricky part.

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I seen a lady command a tiller boat on oahe beaver bay. Boat was full of guys. Water was rough she was on the fish and waves were to high to back troll. I have seen everybody get wet I alk depends on water conditions. Yes the big wheel boats get wet too. I thoug I t we all grew up with a tiller a sign that I am getting old.

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bigoats Said:
Hey Johner have you used a 4 stroke tiller before. There is no vibration and those four strokes are about as quite as they get. Yes when you got it wide open it can be hard to talk to the guys in the boat. It takes a more expierenced fisherman to run a boat with a tiller

My kicker is a tiller 4 stroke, that I can run at the back of the boat or hook up to my steering rod and use the troll master. My son loves to sit in the back of the boat and run that little 9.9 when we are out together. He is 7, and thinks the tiller is the cats ass.

I just prefer being in a wheel boat, not saying its better just my choice. My son will likely have a tiller boat as he loves fiddling with the motor.

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I fished a tournament and everybody passed me in my tiller.  That was demeaning, so I bought a boat with a 300 on the back.  I'll teach them next time.  Ha ha.

"Diligence is the mother of good luck."

"The constitution only gives people the right to pursue hapiness.  You have to catch it yourself."

"Well done is better than well said."

"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

All by:  Benjamin Franklin.

"The solution to any problem - work, love, money, whatever - is to go fishing, and the bigger the problem, the longer the trip should be."

Author: John Gierach

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Captain Ahab Said:
I fished a tournament and everybody passed me in my tiller.  That was demeaning, so I bought a boat with a 300 on the back.  I'll teach them next time.  Ha ha.

I've fished a few tournaments where the same happened(not as many pass me now), but what mattered was the weight at the end!  I've seen many tournaments won from an old slow boat(often times a tiller). 

Tillers can now be fast too, so you get the best of both worlds!  Just get a helmet or a good pair of goggles for cruising through the rain or cold!


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Captain Ahab Said:
I fished a tournament and everybody passed me in my tiller.  That was demeaning, so I bought a boat with a 300 on the back.  I'll teach them next time.  Ha ha.

All I have to say is watch out tournament people -- watch out --- a new dog on circuit.  

 

Stay thirsty my friends