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THE NEW WELFARE MAP

by , Posted to on 02/25/2013 09:15 AM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/18/2004
Location: ND



These 11 States now have More People on Welfare than they do Employed!


 

Last month, the Senate Budget Committee reports that in fiscal year 2011, between food stamps, housing support, child care, Medicaid and other benefits, the average U.S. household below the poverty line received $168.00 a day in government support. What’s the problem with that much support? Well, the median household income in America is just over $50,000, which averages out to $137.13 a day.

 

To put it another way, being on welfare now pays the equivalent of $30.00 an hour for a 40-hour week, while the average job pays $25.00 an hour.

 

AND YOU AND I ARE PAYING FOR IT!!!

 

Does this even remotely seem right??


LINDY FISHING



Re: THE NEW WELFARE MAP
by on 02/25/2013 09:33 AM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/12/2008
Location: ND

I'm just glad that now I'm paying my fair share. Thanks Obama for opening my eyes. I've been blind for so many years.

Re: THE NEW WELFARE MAP
by on 02/25/2013 09:58 AM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/21/2011
Location: IA
 This is rediculous.   FW:FW:FW:FW:RE:FW:FW:FW:FW.

If you spent 1/5 the amount of time it takes to read this garbage to actually googling whether this was true you wouldn't have wasted all of our time.  

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2013/jan/11/chain-email/chain-email-says-11-states-have-more-people-welfar/

http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/deathspiral.asp

http://www.philly.com/philly/FlackCheck_Do_You_Live_in_a_Death_Spiral_State.html


But, but, but, these facts aren't true!!!!! What's amazing is how popular crap like this gets on the internet.  I think people posting, forwarding, etc., without ever even looking into whether they are true or not is what makes them so popular.  
 
Re: THE NEW WELFARE MAP
by on 02/25/2013 10:01 AM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/23/2004
Location: ND
but if its on the internet it has to be true

:)
Re: THE NEW WELFARE MAP
by on 02/25/2013 10:03 AM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/18/2004
Location: ND
Freezer filler Said:
 This is rediculous.   FW:FW:FW:FW:RE:FW:FW:FW:FW.

If you spent 1/5 the amount of time it takes to read this garbage to actually googling whether this was true you wouldn't have wasted all of our time.  

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2013/jan/11/chain-email/chain-email-says-11-states-have-more-people-welfar/

http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/deathspiral.asp

http://www.philly.com/philly/FlackCheck_Do_You_Live_in_a_Death_Spiral_State.html


But, but, but, these facts aren't true!!!!! What's amazing is how popular crap like this gets on the internet.  I think people posting, forwarding, etc., without ever even looking into whether they are true or not is what makes them so popular.  
what are you my mother.


LINDY FISHING



Re: THE NEW WELFARE MAP
by on 02/25/2013 10:06 AM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 04/22/2009
Location: MT
Its hard to research everything and work for a living.

I dont go around guessing cup sizes either I just know a nice rack when I see one.

Re: THE NEW WELFARE MAP
by on 02/25/2013 10:09 AM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/21/2011
Location: IA
But not hard enough to post it in the first place?  BS 
doublebarrelsaloon Said:
Its hard to research everything and work for a living.


 
Re: THE NEW WELFARE MAP
by on 02/25/2013 10:12 AM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/21/2011
Location: IA
 
johnr Said:

what are you my mother.


Really? That's the response?  I feel like I'm on the playground during recess back in the third grade.  
 
Re: THE NEW WELFARE MAP
by on 02/25/2013 10:12 AM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 04/22/2009
Location: MT
Freezer filler Said:
But not hard enough to post it in the first place?  BS 
doublebarrelsaloon Said:
Its hard to research everything and work for a living.


Haha just playin around it'll be ok.

I dont go around guessing cup sizes either I just know a nice rack when I see one.

Re: THE NEW WELFARE MAP
by on 02/25/2013 10:17 AM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/21/2011
Location: IA
I hear ya.  Might be a little edgier cause it's monday.  I also get tired of seeing misinformation constantly spread about because few ever check to see if its true in the first place.   
doublebarrelsaloon Said:
Freezer filler Said:
But not hard enough to post it in the first place?  BS 
doublebarrelsaloon Said:
Its hard to research everything and work for a living.


Haha just playin around it'll be ok.



 
Re: THE NEW WELFARE MAP
by on 02/25/2013 10:23 AM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/18/2004
Location: ND
Freezer filler Said:
 
johnr Said:

what are you my mother.


Really? That's the response?  I feel like I'm on the playground during recess back in the third grade.  
Ya, well my dad can beat up your dad.


LINDY FISHING



Re: THE NEW WELFARE MAP
by on 02/25/2013 10:53 AM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/26/2008
Location: ND
 Seems legit : )
cant drink all day unless you start in the morning.
Im only one man
GET SOME!!!!!
Re: THE NEW WELFARE MAP
by on 02/25/2013 11:17 AM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/24/2012
Location: ND
First off, as per the links freezer posted (one link does not work), this all started when Forbes magazine listed these 11 states as "danger spots for investors", and they based their finding on 2 factors: there are more takers and makers and the credit worthiness of the state.
Both snopes and politifact come to the conclusion that the data used to determine there are more takers than makers is not fair nor accurate in their OPINION. I guess I think the data that was used to determine if there are more takers than makers is accurate and fair, so I dont think snopes or politifact are right. Here is a couple of blurps from politifact, only 3 for workers for every 2 welfare receipents, yikes!

Nationally in 2011, Rector said, the average number of recipients was approximately 100 million -- nearly a third of the US population, he noted. According to the bureau’s employment data, 140 million people had a job that year.

Upshot: There were three employed people for every two "welfare" recipients, including children, as defined by the Heritage Foundation.
 

Re: THE NEW WELFARE MAP
by on 02/25/2013 12:24 PM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/14/2011
Location: Il
I live in Illinois and a few days ago I got to witness the following. I was behind a lady at the local grocery store. She had an I-phone, hair extensions, gold rings and chains, nails done up, tatoos all over and a coach bag. She had $300 plus in food items and $40 in other items. She used her food stamp card to pay for the food. She then pulled out a hand full of 100 dollar bills and started thumbing through them. After a little bit she found a couple 20 dollar bills and handed them to the clerk. She then said "I was begining to think all I had was 100's". When I left the store, I saw the same lady loading her FOOD STAMP paid for food into her Escalade. So now I know where my portion is going to..
Re: THE NEW WELFARE MAP
by on 02/25/2013 12:28 PM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/16/2001
Location: ND
You are right Freezerfiller.  I've adopted my own Bobkat Rule, which says to me "All political crap that is cutn' pasted or sent along to me via e-mail is AUTOMATICALLY WRONG until proved otherwise!"    The collarary to my rule is the addition "Especially when seen on FBO!"  
I don't search webistes like Snopes and many other to find out if something is false, i just search the internet nowadays to try to find out if something is true or not or evenb contains a bit of truth spun or taken out of context.  Haven't kept score, but guessing that well over 90% turns out NOT to be true.  
The bad part of it is the number of people who believe so much stuff that can't be true, and even when its pointed out that it ISN'T true, still continue to post comments indicating that they still believe it!    I used to think that was funny, but now i find it quite a sobering thought regarding the future of the country.
Re: THE NEW WELFARE MAP
by on 02/25/2013 12:54 PM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/24/2012
Location: ND
Yep, keep believing there arent more takers than makers, it just cant be true because snopes said so. Just ignore the national debt clock, all the red numbers cant be right, especially the debt per citizen and the debt per taxpayer figures. Keep on handing out the "free" money to the unfortunate people like dawg experienced. Those 11 states are just fine financially, no need to change anything, except maybe tax the taxpayers more. Its all BS, just move along people and get back to work.
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Re: THE NEW WELFARE MAP
by on 02/25/2013 1:05 PM | Reply #16 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 03/09/2009
Location: ND
Freezer filler Said:
 This is rediculous.   FW:FW:FW:FW:RE:FW:FW:FW:FW.

If you spent 1/5 the amount of time it takes to read this garbage to actually googling whether this was true you wouldn't have wasted all of our time.  

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2013/jan/11/chain-email/chain-email-says-11-states-have-more-people-welfar/

http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/deathspiral.asp

http://www.philly.com/philly/FlackCheck_Do_You_Live_in_a_Death_Spiral_State.html


But, but, but, these facts aren't true!!!!! What's amazing is how popular crap like this gets on the internet.  I think people posting, forwarding, etc., without ever even looking into whether they are true or not is what makes them so popular.  

Okay....let's cut to the chase.  Of those on welfare, what percentage voted for Obama/democrat?
 
What percentage of blacks, mexicans and native americans are on welfare or in prison vs. whites?  

What percentage of those voted for obama/democrat?

What happens when it floods in ND?  Snows in ND?  People get together and help each other. What happens when it floods in Louisiana or snowstorms in NY?  They loot, steal, shoot each other and beg for help.
 
How did those states vote? 
 
Lets just talk about the facts. 
 
Go.
"he wasn't wearing orange so I shot him"
Re: THE NEW WELFARE MAP
by on 02/25/2013 1:34 PM | Reply #17 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/13/2012
Location: WI
"Haven't kept score, but guessing that well over 90% turns out NOT to be true"

So what you're saying bobkat is that you don't believe cable dawg about his own personal  experience?   You don't believe Obozo promised to cut the national debt in half?  You don't believe the deficit and national debt continue to spiral higher and higher far out of control?   You don't believe we have a growing unemployment problem in this country?  You can't believe the tyranical direction the socialist clown in office is taking us is by design?

Amazing how the typical leftist will take liberal propaganda at face value but anything conservative or anything that might make Obozo look like the incompetent clown he is MUST be a lie.
Re: THE NEW WELFARE MAP
by on 02/25/2013 1:47 PM | Reply #18 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/25/2007
Location: ND
You guys are missing the point... Everything you just said may be true. But, the premise of the op wasn't... again.
Born to hunt and fish... Forced to work!
Re: THE NEW WELFARE MAP
by on 02/25/2013 2:40 PM | Reply #19 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 06/19/2003
Location: ND
I would like to know the truth, but Snoops nor factcheck.org are the places to look for it.  They are as bias as any other place.  I thought factcheck.org was the next best thing since sliced bread until I found some things I knew were false and misleading.  As an example when someone said John Kerry was the richest senator when running for president they said that was wrong Bush was had more money.  OK, but since when was Bush a senator? These people are idiots not fact checkers. 
Re: THE NEW WELFARE MAP
by on 02/25/2013 3:16 PM | Reply #20 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/31/2001
Location: ND
Freezer filler Said:
 This is rediculous.   FW:FW:FW:FW:RE:FW:FW:FW:FW.

If you spent 1/5 the amount of time it takes to read this garbage to actually googling whether this was true you wouldn't have wasted all of our time.  

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2013/jan/11/chain-email/chain-email-says-11-states-have-more-people-welfar/

http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/deathspiral.asp

http://www.philly.com/philly/FlackCheck_Do_You_Live_in_a_Death_Spiral_State.html


But, but, but, these facts aren't true!!!!! What's amazing is how popular crap like this gets on the internet.  I think people posting, forwarding, etc., without ever even looking into whether they are true or not is what makes them so popular.  
your own rebutal says it is not exacly true so to speak, but if you include those that work for the government, State, Federal, or City, it is not far off.. that is why so mant states are in trouble.  Most government payrolls are funded by taxes paid by folks working in the private sector. Granted government workers pay taxes too but that pretty much goes back into the fund that paid them in the first place.

When half of the country works for the government they usually end up doing just what the government say's because that is where their bread is buttered.

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