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Shooting in the wind

Re: Shooting in the wind
by on 11/08/2012 12:39 PM | Reply #21 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/19/2003
Location: ND
yrd drop (in.) 10 mph 20 mph 30 mph
100 2.51 0.85 1.7 2.55
200 0 3.55 7.11 10.66
300 -8.57 8.37 16.74 25.12
400 -24.51 15.63 31.25 46.98
         
25-06, 115 gr. Nosler Partition @ 2900 fps  
This is from a ballistics program, it is by no means spot on for hunting but as you stated it will give you a guesstimate.  But like everyone stated, you need to get it on a range/bench and fine tune it by just shooting, shooting, and shooting some more.

I don't think that most people realize how much wind effects the bullet.  The above wind drift is at 90 degrees.

Good Luck?
Re: Shooting in the wind
by on 11/08/2012 12:40 PM | Reply #22 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/09/2004
Location: ND
 
Allen Said:
Horsager Said:
 It's easier when you don't have a buck tag.  (grin)

For the record, and the peanut gallery, Jiffy was panting like he'd just gotten his 1st pair of panties past the knees.

That may be the best analogy I have ever read!





To the OP, there are so many variables I agree with above advice to practice in the wind and see the result. Although I'm pretty sure I could quote Jiffy from years ago on here stating "wind is voodoo," so take that into account. 

J
Re: Shooting in the wind
by on 11/08/2012 1:13 PM | Reply #23 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/13/2006
Location: ND
Trapper62 Said:
yrd drop (in.) 10 mph 20 mph 30 mph
100 2.51 0.85 1.7 2.55
200 0 3.55 7.11 10.66
300 -8.57 8.37 16.74 25.12
400 -24.51 15.63 31.25 46.98
         
25-06, 115 gr. Nosler Partition @ 2900 fps  
This is from a ballistics program, it is by no means spot on for hunting but as you stated it will give you a guesstimate.  But like everyone stated, you need to get it on a range/bench and fine tune it by just shooting, shooting, and shooting some more.

I don't think that most people realize how much wind effects the bullet.  The above wind drift is at 90 degrees.

Good Luck?
So basically don't shoot unless they are close over opener weekend.

Re: Shooting in the wind
by on 11/08/2012 1:20 PM | Reply #24 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/12/2003
Location: ND
 The problem isn't so much in knowing the drift, it's in knowing what the actual wind speed is vs. a guess.  Gusts are problematic as are any features on the land that shelter or funnel wind.

This moment is a paradox, it's the oldest you've ever been as well as the youngest you'll ever be.


Re: Shooting in the wind
by on 11/08/2012 1:23 PM | Reply #25 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/09/2004
Location: ND
 
Horsager Said:
 The problem isn't so much in knowing the drift, it's in knowing what the actual wind speed is vs. a guess.  Gusts are problematic as are any features on the land that shelter or funnel wind.

Thank you Kestrel....

Now to have them mounted where the deer are versus where I sit.... hmmm
J
Re: Shooting in the wind
by on 11/08/2012 1:36 PM | Reply #26 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/02/2011
Location: ND
Why do you need to know the wind speed at the target?  Which affects the bullet path more?  Point of origin?  midflight?  Or as the bullet slows say 200yds from the target?  Which call is the most important?   

Brent
Re: Shooting in the wind
by on 11/08/2012 1:45 PM | Reply #27 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/12/2003
Location: ND
 
blipelt Said:
Why do you need to know the wind speed at the target?  Which affects the bullet path more?  Point of origin?  midflight?  Or as the bullet slows say 200yds from the target?  Which call is the most important?   

Brent

Making the call whether or not to shoot is the most important.

This moment is a paradox, it's the oldest you've ever been as well as the youngest you'll ever be.


Re: Shooting in the wind
by on 11/08/2012 1:48 PM | Reply #28 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/12/2003
Location: ND
 
iluvswnd Said:
 
Horsager Said:
 The problem isn't so much in knowing the drift, it's in knowing what the actual wind speed is vs. a guess.  Gusts are problematic as are any features on the land that shelter or funnel wind.

Thank you Kestrel....

Now to have them mounted where the deer are versus where I sit.... hmmm
What you need are sensors every 50yds that are integrated and able to broadcast to the Kestrel unit in your hand.  Based on those readings you get a predicted bullet flight path.  Only oughta run about $5K and need bluebird weather.  (grin)

This moment is a paradox, it's the oldest you've ever been as well as the youngest you'll ever be.


Re: Shooting in the wind
by on 11/08/2012 2:00 PM | Reply #29 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/18/2012
Location: ND
 AR 10s a windy days hunting gun.  Shoot shoot shoot! 
Got em!
Re: Shooting in the wind
by on 11/08/2012 2:08 PM | Reply #30 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 09/28/2004
Location: ND
200 yard shot 15-20 mph cross wind, you're looking at 5-7 inches max. Lots of ballistic programs out there for free that will give you ball park. Run one of them and print off a cheat sheet and tape if to your stock. Biggest thing is knowing distance, wind speed, and having your cheat sheet.
Re: Shooting in the wind
by on 11/08/2012 2:17 PM | Reply #31 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/19/2003
Location: ND
Yep, agree with everything above.  Shooting flat land and you probably don't have to much wind varience, but shoot hills or badlands and look out!
Re: Shooting in the wind
by on 11/08/2012 3:22 PM | Reply #32 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/26/2012
Location: bf
 
blipelt Said:
Why do you need to know the wind speed at the target?  Which affects the bullet path more?  Point of origin?  midflight?  Or as the bullet slows say 200yds from the target?  Which call is the most important?   

Brent

If you want to pick nits....on gun wind call is most important.   For the record, it is up for debate among many shooters. 

Nose into the wind and you'll be fine.  Use a little stealth and move.  
 
Re: Shooting in the wind
by on 11/08/2012 3:39 PM | Reply #33 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/18/2012
Location: ND
 with a head wind, does drop change ?  I am pretty sure it does, not much paper experience with it tho.  anyway shoot on paper with a 20mph headwind?
Got em!
Re: Shooting in the wind
by on 11/08/2012 3:52 PM | Reply #34 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/02/2011
Location: ND
Jiffy. Said:
 

If you want to pick nits....on gun wind call is most important.   For the record, it is up for debate among many shooters. 

Nose into the wind and you'll be fine.  Use a little stealth and move.  
Not trying to pick nits...... just bored.  Home with flu.  After a stimulating conversation, and some learning.  For the record I quit long range shooting at big game animals several years ago.  The more I learn the closer I get.  But being able to make a shot very few can to me is the trophy itself.  

Brent       

Re: Shooting in the wind
by on 11/08/2012 3:59 PM | Reply #35 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/02/2011
Location: ND

Head and tailwinds are the toughest for me to shoot in.  Unpredictable in my opinion and correction for me is the hardest to make.  Everytime it is a WAG. 

Brent

Re: Shooting in the wind
by on 11/08/2012 4:32 PM | Reply #36 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/12/2003
Location: ND
 
Ski-Dooit Said:
 with a head wind, does drop change ?  I am pretty sure it does, not much paper experience with it tho.  anyway shoot on paper with a 20mph headwind?

Almost none.  20MPH is only about 30fps.  Gotta be a pretty long ways away before 30FPS means diddly squat.

This moment is a paradox, it's the oldest you've ever been as well as the youngest you'll ever be.


Re: Shooting in the wind
by on 11/08/2012 4:33 PM | Reply #37 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/26/2012
Location: bf
 so you think a head or tail wind is harder to shoot in than a gusting full grade 20+?  If so you haven't shot a BB gun at a barn swallow...

 
Re: Shooting in the wind
by on 11/08/2012 4:34 PM | Reply #38 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/26/2012
Location: bf
 that was for biplet or blipete or what the hell ever...

 
Re: Shooting in the wind
by on 11/08/2012 4:45 PM | Reply #39 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/29/2009
Location: ND
Don't worry about the wind, it affect the deer and your bullet, so its a wash.  hold on hair,  a miss is just an opportunity to hunt some more!

                                                                                                                         

Re: Shooting in the wind
by on 11/08/2012 6:10 PM | Reply #40 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/02/2011
Location: ND
Yep a head or tail is harder in my opinion than a full value or gusting crosswind.  Which can you correct for?  Why can't a head or tail be corrected?  If you shoot with/against the wind does your bullet always impacted in the same place within you expected accuracy of the rifle?  A crosswind you can always play with your holdover.  

Funny I thought a 6mm at 1000yds. was like shooting a BBgun.


Brent   
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