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Scent Blocker and Scent Lok scam?

by , Posted to on 01/28/2008 10:08 PM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/10/2007
Location: ND
I have heard rumors about Scent Blocker and Scent Lok companies possibly being taken to court. According to my sources, there is a group of people that have conducted their own research on carbon suits that these two companies have been selling for the past decade or so. Their tests concluded that carbon clothing is no better than normal hunting clothing that we use, provided that we use the same procedures that we would use on carbon and regular clothes. I have been using carbon clothing for the past 7 or eight years and have had a lot of success using these products. Maybe these carbon clothing companies have brainwashed myself and others into believing that this stuff works? I do believe that if we do everything we can do in our power to take every step to eliminate human odor, that would greatly increase our odds of bagging a mature deer, carbon or not. Just my two cents!
Re: Scent Blocker and Scent Lok scam?
by on 01/28/2008 10:46 PM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/25/2007
Location: ND
I think alot of these products are overrated.I just feel if they can smell you theyll smell your breath or something anyway.I have a freind who swears by it though. Id rather pay attention to good camo,complete silence and wind direction.My .02

Not all who wander are lost.

 

Re: Scent Blocker and Scent Lok scam?
by on 01/28/2008 10:55 PM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/27/2006
Location: ND
I've used scent killer and cover scents, washed my clothes in scent killer laundry soap, took a shower with scent killer soap for many years. Even after doing all this I don't think I ever fooled a deers nose if the wind direction was wrong. So I gave up on all that scent elimination stuff and hunted as I always did, paying attention to the wind. Nothings changed. Wish I could get all that money back I wasted.
Re: Scent Blocker and Scent Lok scam?
by on 01/28/2008 11:12 PM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/12/2003
Location: ND
I try not to sweat and wear wool a lot. I've several different layers of wool to wear depending on weather. Filson's or Cabela's wool whipcord pants are the single-most versatile bottoms a guy can own and you will be dead and buried before they're worn out. I wear Pendleton wool shirts most often and adjust temp control with my base layer. I think wool does a pretty good job of minimizing human odor.

Should the folks challenging the carbon suits win we'll need a whole new crop of outdoor hosts on TV shows as they've all sold their soul to the carbon suit companies.

How many folks know guys who smoke in/to-from their tree stand and still manage to shoot a deer every year?

Why yes indeed I can walk on water..............but I do stagger on alcohol.

Re: Scent Blocker and Scent Lok scam?
by on 01/28/2008 11:20 PM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/04/2003
Location: ND
I have used scent killer, some

I purchased a scent lok outfit this past fall, only wore it a few times bow hunting, will give it the test this fall

tons of stuff on the market, I've only tried a couple, I guess I didn't bathe in it

movement, wind direction, and a good chew of Redman for suck em in bait, LOL.
Re: Scent Blocker and Scent Lok scam?
by on 01/28/2008 11:40 PM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/16/2001
Location: ND
The lawsuit isn't a rumor. That is a fact. There is some information about it here:

http://mainehuntingtoday.com/bbb/2007/09/24/four-minnesota-hunters-suing-scentlok/

The official court documents can be found here:
http://www.skinnymoose.com/ALSLawsuit.pdf


Some of their claims have some validity. One of the ones cited is the fact that the activated carbon can be reactivated by being put in a regular household dryer. The lawsuit cites evidence claiming that temperatures of 200 degrees plus are needed for any effect at all, over 800 degrees is needed for any significant amount of desorbtion, and that a typical household dryer does not get above 150 degrees.

The plaintiffs are seeking class-action status, so in the event that a decision was made in favor of the plaintiffs, you would be automatically eligible as part of the affected class if you have purchased scent-lok products.

-Mike
Re: Scent Blocker and Scent Lok scam?
by on 01/28/2008 11:50 PM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/12/2003
Location: ND
Prolly a bunch of sour-grapes folks who either lost their sponsorship or couldn't get any to begin with. Maybe disgruntled former employees.

Why yes indeed I can walk on water..............but I do stagger on alcohol.

Re: Scent Blocker and Scent Lok scam?
by on 01/29/2008 08:01 AM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/03/2004
Location: ND
Wool gear designed to keep you warm can be EXPENSIVE!!! But, if you search ebay, you will find a bunch of 100% merino shirts, etc that are for sale that work just fine for layering, often for 1/10 the price of similar new stuff. Just a FYI for everyone.
Re: Scent Blocker and Scent Lok scam?
by on 01/29/2008 08:11 AM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/28/2007
Location: ND
Never used carbon, good camo and wind direction are the main factors I look at. always worked for me.
Re: Scent Blocker and Scent Lok scam?
by on 01/29/2008 08:28 AM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 06/28/2002
Location: MN
I have always held to the thought that the stuff is over rated. As mentioned earlier, keep any set of clothes very clean and 'sweat free' and sit tight. I will say that uncsented soap is important but as for the question; does scent lok really work as well as advertised? I would have to say no, with the experience I have had with and without it. PS: dont forget that odors emitted from breathing, backpacks, bow etc... everyone is fixated on clothing when in fact things they carry in may be their worst enemy.
 
Re: Scent Blocker and Scent Lok scam?
by on 01/29/2008 08:29 AM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 06/28/2002
Location: MN
I have always held to the thought that the stuff is over rated. As mentioned earlier, keep any set of clothes very clean and 'sweat free' and sit tight. I will say that uncsented soap is important but as for the question; does scent lok really work as well as advertised? I would have to say no, with the experience I have had with and without it. PS: dont forget that odors emitted from breathing, backpacks, bow etc... everyone is fixated on clothing when in fact things they carry in may be their worst enemy.
 
Re: Scent Blocker and Scent Lok scam?
by on 01/29/2008 08:40 AM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/14/2003
Location: ND
Wow, if they are going to sue and win just how many other MILLIONS of products out there should we all start suing???  I personally think this lawsuit is frivolous and should be tossed out of court.  I'm sorry they bought it and it didn't work but hey, a little thought on the purchase would have saved them their 100 to 300 dollar purchases.

I've said time and time again that the Scent systems are not 100 percent proof.  There's no possible way.  I've never owned any and never will in the name of scent elimination.  If I bought some of their clothing it would because the clothing is pretty dang comfortable and designed nicely for everyday hunting.  I've always been a person to play the wind and always will be because to me its obvious there is no way to eliminate our scent.

Anyway, I think this lawsuit is silly.  Lawsuits like this are why we have problems in the good ole U.S. of A.  With that said, has Scent Lok or Scent Blocker ever said it eliminates human odor 100 percent or is capable of 100% "reactivating"?  If so, I guess I called b.s. on it a long time ago.  Does it help?  Yeah it probably does because carbon does act as a cover scent but 100 percent?  Definitely not.

For the record, I'm with Horsager.  Wool is the ticket.

Tim Sandstrom




 
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Re: Scent Blocker and Scent Lok scam?
by on 01/29/2008 08:43 AM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/14/2003
Location: ND
I need to get a lawsuit going because some new cranks I bought last year didn't catch me a fish.  I'm suing...[insert evil laugh here]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tim Sandstrom




 
Kirsch's Outdoor Products | Fargo, ND | 701-261-9017 Garmin GPS Hunting Maps
Liebel's Guide Service | Williston, ND | 701-770-6746 liebelsguideservice.com
Jig-em-Up Guide Service | Grand Forks, ND | 701-739-9198 jig-em-up-guide-service.com

 
Re: Scent Blocker and Scent Lok scam?
by on 01/29/2008 08:46 AM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/14/2003
Location: ND
If I was Cabela's or other entities I'd counter sue because they were dumb enough to hunt down wind and site millions of magazines and articles that tell hunters how to hunt!

Tim Sandstrom




 
Kirsch's Outdoor Products | Fargo, ND | 701-261-9017 Garmin GPS Hunting Maps
Liebel's Guide Service | Williston, ND | 701-770-6746 liebelsguideservice.com
Jig-em-Up Guide Service | Grand Forks, ND | 701-739-9198 jig-em-up-guide-service.com

 
Re: Scent Blocker and Scent Lok scam?
by on 01/29/2008 08:49 AM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/12/2003
Location: ND
If we're suing crankbait manufacturers put me 1st in line to sue Reef Runner cause they don't run straight out of the package! 'Course if I won the suit their fix would be to send everyone who's ever bought a Reef Runner one of their "Tune-a-Fish" adjustment tools and I've already got a couple of them so what's the point.

Why yes indeed I can walk on water..............but I do stagger on alcohol.

Re: Scent Blocker and Scent Lok scam?
by on 01/29/2008 09:00 AM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/12/2003
Location: ND
Lycan, for the $$$$ I think the best thing going as an outer insulating "keep you warm" layer in wool is the Cabela's Wooltimate with Windstopper. Of course you'll need to layer appropriately underneath as well. I've got the coat and even when I got it (and me) soaking wet elk hunting this fall it was still warm.

I also soaked my Whipcords with Merino longjohns underneath and while they weren't "warm" anymore and I did get cold, it was merely "uncomfortable" cold and not, "I gotta get up and move around or freeze to death" cold. Wool clothing gets the bulk of the credit for me being able to sit out in the rain/wind/cold long enough for my elk to walk by and eat a bullet.

Why yes indeed I can walk on water..............but I do stagger on alcohol.

Re: Scent Blocker and Scent Lok scam?
by on 01/29/2008 09:49 AM | Reply #16 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/27/2007
Location: ND
Does one wear wool as a outer layer, if so does one have problems with it snagging or catching on things? Is it smarter to put a thin outer layer on the wool to prevent this? Sorry for being off the subject, Thanks.
Re: Scent Blocker and Scent Lok scam?
by on 01/29/2008 10:04 AM | Reply #17 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/31/2007
Location: ND
I got a whole scent lok suit and I swear by the stuff. This fall I shot a huge buck with my bow. He came in from down wind and never smelt me. I got a shot at 15 yards. I didn't even shower before I went out. I swear by this stuff and everyone should really give it a try.
Re: Scent Blocker and Scent Lok scam?
by on 01/29/2008 10:05 AM | Reply #18 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/12/2003
Location: ND
Wool as an outer layer depends on the day. When big game hunting I like a layer of wool worked in somewhere. It can be a simple as a Merino base layer, sometimes it's Whipcords and a wool shirt, in the really cold it's wool for an outer layer as well. I don't think wool is any "catchier" than fleece. When it's really cold with any wind I work in a layer of windstopper somewhere as well. Wool doesn't stop wind well on it's own.

Why yes indeed I can walk on water..............but I do stagger on alcohol.

Re: Scent Blocker and Scent Lok scam?
by on 01/29/2008 10:34 AM | Reply #19 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/14/2003
Location: ND
I go the Arnold vs. Predator route (although its scent vs. thermal).  Each time I go out I strip down and roll around in charcoal.  Works every time. 

Tim Sandstrom




 
Kirsch's Outdoor Products | Fargo, ND | 701-261-9017 Garmin GPS Hunting Maps
Liebel's Guide Service | Williston, ND | 701-770-6746 liebelsguideservice.com
Jig-em-Up Guide Service | Grand Forks, ND | 701-739-9198 jig-em-up-guide-service.com

 
Re: Scent Blocker and Scent Lok scam?
by on 01/29/2008 10:41 AM | Reply #20 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 06/28/2002
Location: MN
I have no problem with independent testing to determine if it actually works or not. I guess the key word to me is 'independent'. If in fact its found to be false advertising than by all means they should pay a penalty. If its proven to work as they claim their tests prove than they will be vindicated. Product claims are tested all the time, its a form of protection for all consumers. If you advertise certain facts, they better be FACTS!

Sugar cubes have cured a lot of illness in this country so let the tests speak for themselves one way or the other. I have scent lok myself and I prefer to know before I spend anymore money on such products. Ive fooled deer with and without it so I'm up in the air on this until 'independent' tests give me the facts, again, either way.

If I take the same conscious effort to clean myself with wool or cotton clothes as I do with scent lok, would my results change? It appears we will find out scientifically one way or another. That seems fair to me.
 
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