Scent Blocker and Scent Lok scam?

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Scent Blocker and Scent Lok scam?

I have heard rumors about Scent Blocker and Scent Lok companies possibly being taken to court. According to my sources, there is a group of people that have conducted their own research on carbon suits that these two companies have been selling for the past decade or so. Their tests concluded that carbon clothing is no better than normal hunting clothing that we use, provided that we use the same procedures that we would use on carbon and regular clothes. I have been using carbon clothing for the past 7 or eight years and have had a lot of success using these products. Maybe these carbon clothing companies have brainwashed myself and others into believing that this stuff works? I do believe that if we do everything we can do in our power to take every step to eliminate human odor, that would greatly increase our odds of bagging a mature deer, carbon or not. Just my two cents!

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I think alot of these products are overrated.I just feel if they can smell you theyll smell your breath or something anyway.I have a freind who swears by it though. Id rather pay attention to good camo,complete silence and wind direction.My .02

 

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I've used scent killer and cover scents, washed my clothes in scent killer laundry soap, took a shower with scent killer soap for many years. Even after doing all this I don't think I ever fooled a deers nose if the wind direction was wrong. So I gave up on all that scent elimination stuff and hunted as I always did, paying attention to the wind. Nothings changed. Wish I could get all that money back I wasted.

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I try not to sweat and wear wool a lot. I've several different layers of wool to wear depending on weather. Filson's or Cabela's wool whipcord pants are the single-most versatile bottoms a guy can own and you will be dead and buried before they're worn out. I wear Pendleton wool shirts most often and adjust temp control with my base layer. I think wool does a pretty good job of minimizing human odor.

Should the folks challenging the carbon suits win we'll need a whole new crop of outdoor hosts on TV shows as they've all sold their soul to the carbon suit companies.

How many folks know guys who smoke in/to-from their tree stand and still manage to shoot a deer every year?

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I have used scent killer, some

I purchased a scent lok outfit this past fall, only wore it a few times bow hunting, will give it the test this fall

tons of stuff on the market, I've only tried a couple, I guess I didn't bathe in it

movement, wind direction, and a good chew of Redman for suck em in bait, LOL.

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The lawsuit isn't a rumor. That is a fact. There is some information about it here:

http://mainehuntingtoday.com/bbb/2007/09/24/four-minnesota-hunters-suing...

The official court documents can be found here:
http://www.skinnymoose.com/ALSLawsuit.pdf

Some of their claims have some validity. One of the ones cited is the fact that the activated carbon can be reactivated by being put in a regular household dryer. The lawsuit cites evidence claiming that temperatures of 200 degrees plus are needed for any effect at all, over 800 degrees is needed for any significant amount of desorbtion, and that a typical household dryer does not get above 150 degrees.

The plaintiffs are seeking class-action status, so in the event that a decision was made in favor of the plaintiffs, you would be automatically eligible as part of the affected class if you have purchased scent-lok products.

-Mike

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Prolly a bunch of sour-grapes folks who either lost their sponsorship or couldn't get any to begin with. Maybe disgruntled former employees.

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Wool gear designed to keep you warm can be EXPENSIVE!!! But, if you search ebay, you will find a bunch of 100% merino shirts, etc that are for sale that work just fine for layering, often for 1/10 the price of similar new stuff. Just a FYI for everyone.

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Never used carbon, good camo and wind direction are the main factors I look at. always worked for me.

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I have always held to the thought that the stuff is over rated. As mentioned earlier, keep any set of clothes very clean and 'sweat free' and sit tight. I will say that uncsented soap is important but as for the question; does scent lok really work as well as advertised? I would have to say no, with the experience I have had with and without it. PS: dont forget that odors emitted from breathing, backpacks, bow etc... everyone is fixated on clothing when in fact things they carry in may be their worst enemy.

 

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I have always held to the thought that the stuff is over rated. As mentioned earlier, keep any set of clothes very clean and 'sweat free' and sit tight. I will say that uncsented soap is important but as for the question; does scent lok really work as well as advertised? I would have to say no, with the experience I have had with and without it. PS: dont forget that odors emitted from breathing, backpacks, bow etc... everyone is fixated on clothing when in fact things they carry in may be their worst enemy.

 

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Wow, if they are going to sue and win just how many other MILLIONS of products out there should we all start suing???  I personally think this lawsuit is frivolous and should be tossed out of court.  I'm sorry they bought it and it didn't work but hey, a little thought on the purchase would have saved them their 100 to 300 dollar purchases.

I've said time and time again that the Scent systems are not 100 percent proof.  There's no possible way.  I've never owned any and never will in the name of scent elimination.  If I bought some of their clothing it would because the clothing is pretty dang comfortable and designed nicely for everyday hunting.  I've always been a person to play the wind and always will be because to me its obvious there is no way to eliminate our scent.

Anyway, I think this lawsuit is silly.  Lawsuits like this are why we have problems in the good ole U.S. of A.  With that said, has Scent Lok or Scent Blocker ever said it eliminates human odor 100 percent or is capable of 100% "reactivating"?  If so, I guess I called b.s. on it a long time ago.  Does it help?  Yeah it probably does because carbon does act as a cover scent but 100 percent?  Definitely not.

For the record, I'm with Horsager.  Wool is the ticket.

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I need to get a lawsuit going because some new cranks I bought last year didn't catch me a fish.  I'm suing...[insert evil laugh here]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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If I was Cabela's or other entities I'd counter sue because they were dumb enough to hunt down wind and site millions of magazines and articles that tell hunters how to hunt!

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If we're suing crankbait manufacturers put me 1st in line to sue Reef Runner cause they don't run straight out of the package! 'Course if I won the suit their fix would be to send everyone who's ever bought a Reef Runner one of their "Tune-a-Fish" adjustment tools and I've already got a couple of them so what's the point.

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Lycan, for the $$$$ I think the best thing going as an outer insulating "keep you warm" layer in wool is the Cabela's Wooltimate with Windstopper. Of course you'll need to layer appropriately underneath as well. I've got the coat and even when I got it (and me) soaking wet elk hunting this fall it was still warm.

I also soaked my Whipcords with Merino longjohns underneath and while they weren't "warm" anymore and I did get cold, it was merely "uncomfortable" cold and not, "I gotta get up and move around or freeze to death" cold. Wool clothing gets the bulk of the credit for me being able to sit out in the rain/wind/cold long enough for my elk to walk by and eat a bullet.

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Does one wear wool as a outer layer, if so does one have problems with it snagging or catching on things? Is it smarter to put a thin outer layer on the wool to prevent this? Sorry for being off the subject, Thanks.

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I got a whole scent lok suit and I swear by the stuff. This fall I shot a huge buck with my bow. He came in from down wind and never smelt me. I got a shot at 15 yards. I didn't even shower before I went out. I swear by this stuff and everyone should really give it a try.

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Wool as an outer layer depends on the day. When big game hunting I like a layer of wool worked in somewhere. It can be a simple as a Merino base layer, sometimes it's Whipcords and a wool shirt, in the really cold it's wool for an outer layer as well. I don't think wool is any "catchier" than fleece. When it's really cold with any wind I work in a layer of windstopper somewhere as well. Wool doesn't stop wind well on it's own.

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I go the Arnold vs. Predator route (although its scent vs. thermal).  Each time I go out I strip down and roll around in charcoal.  Works every time. 

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I have no problem with independent testing to determine if it actually works or not. I guess the key word to me is 'independent'. If in fact its found to be false advertising than by all means they should pay a penalty. If its proven to work as they claim their tests prove than they will be vindicated. Product claims are tested all the time, its a form of protection for all consumers. If you advertise certain facts, they better be FACTS!

Sugar cubes have cured a lot of illness in this country so let the tests speak for themselves one way or the other. I have scent lok myself and I prefer to know before I spend anymore money on such products. Ive fooled deer with and without it so I'm up in the air on this until 'independent' tests give me the facts, again, either way.

If I take the same conscious effort to clean myself with wool or cotton clothes as I do with scent lok, would my results change? It appears we will find out scientifically one way or another. That seems fair to me.

 

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Tim, don't the deer pick out your "black" color then or do you put your hunting clothes on after rolling in it? :-)

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I have tested my own garments to a certain extent, and found them very effective against straight ammonia, much the same as the ammonia smell in sweat.....so with that I do beleive in the use of my scent blocker, but don't rely on it solely. I still use cover scents and of course play the wind, but I have fooled a deers nose many a time, and do beleive that scent blocker assisted to some extent.

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Yeah, gotta put close on afterward.

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I will admit, I have bought into the whole scent blocker idea along with rubber boots. I also use the shower soaps and deodorants. Don't use any cover scents whatsoever. I still try and play the wind but if I can't, am not afraid to go anyway. Seems to work great for me. Have had many deer come in down wind and not been busted. Have had a few see something they didn't like and try to get my wind and are unable to. Coincidence, maybe but I believe in it. Would I say it is 100% legit. No, but what is?

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What, are you cookin' meth iminrut?

Ammonia? We use that stuff out in parshall but it's for fertilizer. ;)


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I can't see how anyone could possibly do any meaningful objective research on whether scent blocking stuff or cover scents works or not!?!
Anecdotal evidence one way or another wouldn't go far in court! LOL Would be interesting to see if this is a true story or not! LOL

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Pigsticker, if you were trying to be funny, I find know humor in it. Meth is not a joke, and don't particularily like having my user name attached to it in any manner.

Ammonia for cleaning, can be found houselhold form at most any store, in their cleaning supplies isle. Anhydrous Ammonia (which I imagine you are referring to) is the kind intended for fertilizer, and from what I understand is the form often stolen and abused in the production of meth.

Now that the chemistry lesson is done, I still beleive in my Scent clothing for the job I know it has performed, even in my won tests. I do not rely on it solely, and never would.....can never be too careful when bowhunting.

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Who needs scent blocker stuff anyway? All you need is a pile of corn and four blinds, one each to the N-S-E-W about 10 yards from it. Depending on the wind, sit in the right one and don't worry about scent and stuff like that! Ha! Just kidding guys! LOL

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You're treading on sacred ground there, bobkat!

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easy there iminrut,

just poking some fun at the subject, everything around here is always so serious. just chill, hence the evil winking eye at the end.


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I have never used Scent-lok suits. But that is because I have not wanted to shell out the $$$ for one. I have still killed deer with my bow. I just do my best to be scent-free as possible and play the wind.

I guess I have never felt led to believe that these eliminated human scent 100%. I have always had the impression that they gave another added advantage. In many cases extra time to get a shot off. I have seen some hunters on the Outdoor Channel have deer down wind and not pick up on them. But I have also seen the opposite, where deer still picked them off, while in their scent-lok suits.

To me scent control is a process. It is not just putting on a scent-lok suit and expecting 100% scent elimination.

-Justin

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Once the temps drop off I wear my codet wool jacket and pants

wore the heck out if them during rifle season, put on a ton of miles, got em dirty, stinky

wore them bowhunting after gun season

where I do most of my bowhunting,don't matter if in my blind ir sitting by a tree
I'd have deer within 6 yards coming through in the trees winds swirling it amazing what you can get away with

I hunted in temps in the teens to 85 above stinky, sweaty under many coditions,sometimes it worked once in a while I got burned

ya you need to play the wind, it's fun to play and find out what works what don't

did not use any scent killer this past year, not saying I shouldn't have, best lesson is to try it

do have scent lok clothes a will worh the heck out of them this fall

thats the fun part

oh ya the buck is still runnin ,,, my bad.........

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Heck can't under stand what I just typed

missed word cannot spell ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, time for bed ,LOL

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All I can say is the stuff must work. Because I'm sure Tiffany smells GOOD(drool). If a deer can't smell that? Or maybe they can. What were we talking about again?

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I've never wore the scent lok stuff. If it does work IMHO the only use for it would be for sitting in a stand. I cant imagine it would be worth a plug nickle for spot and stalk when a guy gets all sweated up etc.

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Justin is correct... if your going to 'use' the scent control suits... its a PROCESS. I for one use them and I"ve seen them work firsthand and I'm a believer in them. You can never eliminate human scent.. Its impossible but you can reduce and mask it to a certain extent. It doesnt do u any good to invest in a suit and then not go thru the steps of masking or reducing the scent in ur hunting areas. I believe the most important part of scent control is controlling and reducing the amount of scent around ur feet and lower legs. A deer's nose is on close to the ground a majority of the time and this is where you'll get busted.. especially your entry routes and exit routes from your set up. Rubber boots help immensely.

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Only thing about all these scent lock products is that not a one of them handles your breath.

No matter how many tic tacs you eat, your breath stinks to high heaven to a deer's nose. I have read in the past that the vast majority of a clean showered person's scent is from their breath. So long as you aren't sweating and stinking up the air with B.O., you will lose to a deer's nose so long as you breathe.

Cover scents? I believe in them just about as much as I do scent lock. An animal can smell and differentiate a large number of smells compared to a human. So all mister deer (ok most of what I have read about on this are predators but I think it still is somewhat valid for deer) is that he will think he is coming upwind to a skunk and a human. Of course that's if you are using skunk scent as a cover.

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Somebody should invent a field pea flavored or corn flavored chewing gum.. 'cover scent' and attractant! That would take care of the baiting controversy... have a great weekend everybody.

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Good idea TSR! Then we could call
Allen "pea breath" or "corn breath" instead of "Dog breath!" LOL :)

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Here;s a diff thought,some of you guys say you fooled deer while wearing the scent Blocker and sometimes you are busted.Could it be that some deer have better noses than others??Maybe some are smarter than others?While watching deer move though the woods,i've noticed some are very quiet when they walk, then you have some that you can here coming!Or maybe some deer are more high stung than others!Especially on public land-HA!

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I'd say some deer are more high strung than others...especially when those who bait use that stuff called 'Deer Cocaine'.....lol I believe though mature deer 'learn' and they 'remember'... those who do well survive the longest... just like those 'velociraptors' on Jurassic Park.....'they remember'...... glad I dont have any of those hunting me.

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During rifle season, I had 2 whitetail doe 3 steps or yards away, there was a breeze

I was sitting by a tree watching over a draw, it was about sun down I was looking to my right and caught them two coming un behind me

either something didn't look right or they got a wiff of me they took off ran maybe 30 yards stopped looked and took off again,

but in no big hurry

who knows maybe they caught scent and curiosity got the best of them

thats the closest encounter, for me anyway.

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I think the smartest bucks out there are just simply afraid of everything. From day one they were born to be afraid of their own shadow. Everything in the woods scare them and when we change or add something in their woods; being scent, bait, blind or whatever they are at the point of having a heart attack and thats enough for them to get out of there. Its probably these deer that bust the scent lok suits, they seem to almost bust everything cause they are simply scared of everything. Just my thoughts.

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It looks like the federal court has ruled that ScentBlocker works as claimed -  

 

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 

DISTRICT OF MINNESOTA 

 

 

In re:  

 

Activated Carbon-Based Hunting 

Clothing Marketing and Sales Practices 

Litigation 

 

 

 

THIS DOCUMENT RELATES TO: 

 

 

Multidistrict Litigation 

No. 09-md-2059 (RHK/JJK) 

 

 

 

 

 

 

STIPULATED ORDER FOR SETTLEMENT 

 

Plaintiffs commenced this action on behalf of themselves and all similarly situated 

persons against Robinson Outdoors, Inc. and Robinson Outdoor Products, LLC 

(“Robinson”) for alleged damages suffered from the marketing of carbon-lined hunting 

clothing. Plaintiffs sought permanent injunctive relief, damages and attorneys’ fees for 

alleged violations of various state consumer protection statutes and other laws. The 

Plaintiffs for themselves and the Defendants for themselves hereby stipulate to this Final 

Order for Settlement. 

The findings stipulated herein are for settlement purposes only.  They are not 

admissible for purposes of determining the liability of other Defendants. 

 

FINDINGS 

 

1. This Court has jurisdiction over the subject matter of this action and has 

jurisdiction over relief against Robinson. Venue in this district is proper. 

2. Plaintiffs and Robinson stipulate and agree to this Order to settle and 

resolve all matters in dispute arising from the Complaint to the date of entry of the Order. 

Robinson does not admit any of the allegations of the Complaint, other than the 

jurisdictional facts. Plaintiffs and Robinson stipulate and agree that this Order constitutes 

a settlement pursuant to Rule 408. 

3. Robinson waives all rights to seek judicial review or otherwise challenge 

or contest the validity of this Order. 

4. Robinson has used the phrase “odor elimination” in connection with 

hunting clothing apparel and other products. 

5. Robinson maintains and the parties stipulate that none of Robinson’s 

advertising of its “odor eliminating technology” products for at least the past three years 

has used the term “100%,” “all,” “completely” or “totally”  in referring to efficacy.  

6. Robinson also maintains and the parties stipulate that its advertising of its 

“odor eliminating technology” products for at least the past three years has used words 

that further qualify this language indicating that carbon-embedded clothing cannot totally 

eliminate odor.  Robinson maintains and the parties stipulate that Robinson’s advertising 

in the past three years, taken in context, implies only odor reduction. 

7. Robinson maintains and the parties stipulate that Robinson’s advertising 

over the last three years advocated a multiple phase process using all Robinson’s 

 

products in combination so that the hunter has the best possible opportunity to eliminate 

odor. 

8. Robinson’s current advertising graphics depict how its “odor eliminating 

technology” products work (i.e., that odor goes into the carbon), and Robinson maintains 

and the parties stipulate that the graphic is not a depiction of the specific percentage of 

odor adsorption.  

9. The parties stipulate that carbon can adsorb human odor.  The parties 

stipulate that the amount of carbon in the product and the process used to embed the 

carbon to the product impacts the carbon’s effectiveness.  The parties further stipulate 

that Robinson’s carbon-embedded clothing contains substantially more carbon and uses a 

different application process than other carbon-embedded hunting clothing products 

currently on the market.  Robinson has produced evidence of expert testing that 

establishes that its garments containing activated carbon are effective at blocking the 

transmission of odor through the garments and the amount of carbon used and the process 

by which the carbon is embedded in the liner of the hunting clothing makes the odor- 

blocking ability of the Robinson products more effective at reducing human odor than 

other hunting garments containing carbon as well as non-carbon hunting garments.  

10. Robinson has provided evidence of expert testing that establishes that, 

after washing and drying, its carbon fabrics continue to be effective at reducing odor 

permeation. 

 

11. Robinson has provided expert testing that shows that after washing and 

drying its carbon fabrics are “reactivated” and such clothing is restored to some extent for 

continued beneficial use. 

12. Robinson denies all the allegations and claims made by the Plaintiffs in 

this and the related actions.   

13. The parties have agreed to settle all claims that have been brought or 

could have been brought against the other parties and forever release and discharge each 

other from all possible claims except for performance of the settlement obligations. 

14. The Court adopts these facts for purposes of this Order. 

ORDER 

 

ADVERTISING AND MARKETING RELIEF 

 

II. IT IS FURTHER ORDERED 

 

Robinson is hereby permitted to continue to use its phrase “odor eliminating 

technology” but only in conjunction with other words or phrases that expressly make 

clear that the clothing in question can only reduce the release of human odor.  Robinson 

may not use the phrases “elimination” or “odor eliminating” or “scent eliminating” alone 

or in conjunction with words or graphics that say or depict “scent-free,” “odor free,” 

“100%,”  “all” or “every trace” or “every bit” of odor as removed by the clothing.   

Robinson is hereby permitted to continue to use the word “regenerate” or 

“reactivate” as a description of the process of removal of some trapped odor from the 

clothing, as long as they do not include additional words or graphics that say or depict 

 

regeneration or reactivation as a process that will restore the clothing to pristine or like 

new condition. 

RELEASE  

 

III. IT IS FURTHER ORDERED 

 

 Any and all claims (except for performance of the settlement obligations) that the 

Plaintiffs have against the Defendants and any of their officers, directors, shareholders, 

members, employees, agents, affiliates and attorneys, of whatever nature, whether known 

or unknown, from the beginning of time, are hereby dismissed, discharged and satisfied 

in full.  

RETENTION OF JURISDICTION 

 

III. IT IS FURTHER ORDERED, that this Court shall retain jurisdiction over this 

matter for purposes of construction, modification and enforcement. 

 

ENTRY OF FINAL JUDGMENT 

 

IV.  IT IS FURTHER ORDERED, that pursuant to Federal Rule 54(b), that there is no 

just reason for delay and the Clerk of Court shall immediately enter this Order as a final 

judgment as to relief against Robinson. 

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Tim Sandstrom Said:
I go the Arnold vs. Predator route (although its scent vs. thermal).  Each time I go out I strip down and roll around in charcoal.  Works every time. 

Tim Sandstrom

Tim, why did you have to go and paint such a gruesome mental picture.  If you were talking about Dani rolling in charcoal it would be a different story.

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I don't think there is a thing as scent elimation, its all about deer getting used to your scent. If you are in an area frequently checking cameras your scent stays there for a while and the deer just get used to it.  If deer get use to your scent, they are way less alarmed by it.  I've bow hunted for 8 yrs and I just bought scent blocker last yr and I couldn't tell any difference with the way deer act.  Wanna mask you human scent try spraying coon urine on your boots I've heard that works well.
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PSE 15 Said:

I don't think there is a thing as scent elimation, its all about deer getting used to your scent. If you are in an area frequently checking cameras your scent stays there for a while and the deer just get used to it.  If deer get use to your scent, they are way less alarmed by it.  I've bow hunted for 8 yrs and I just bought scent blocker last yr and I couldn't tell any difference with the way deer act.  Wanna mask you human scent try spraying coon urine on your boots I've heard that works well.

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