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Rebuilding a Strikemaster Auger Carb

by Dan_F , Posted to Fishing Buddy on 01/08/2010 8:37 PM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
Dan_F
Joined: 12/15/2009
Location: ND
Hello everyone! Quick question about rebuilding a stikemaster ice auger carb. I've got an early 2000s model Mag 2000 auger and it's been running kind of crappy lately. It worked, but I had to play with the choke while drilling my holes to keep it running with enough power to punch through the ice. So I figured I would order a carb rebuild kit from Strikemaster. Well, got it all back together tonight, went to fire it up and it ran for a few minutes and died.

When I was putting it together i thought the welch plug that came with the kit (that covers the low speed jets) looked kind of small. It did not fit as tight as the OEM one I took out of it. So last night I put some fingernail polish around it after I seated it to make sure it didn't leak (read to do that on the web).I let it dry over night.  Anyway, after it died I laid it on it's handle and noticed fuel dripping from the butterfly shaft. Pulled the plug and sure enough it was fouled out. From what i could tell, the fuel was leaking from the low speed jet ports.

Should fuel leak from there if the needle valve is working correctly? I replaced it with one from the kit. It looked the same as the one I pulled out of it and I made sure the spring was re-installed.

I haven't pulled it back apart because at this point I am pretty frustrated.....

At this point I am into it for $42.00 (strikemasters shipping rates are ridiculous).... Strike master does not list a carb assy or the welch plug on it's own (I'd be hesitant to re-order one from them). So I Looked up a TC 300 Tecumseh (the engine on it) on Sears parts direct website and they had a complete parts break down. I can get the welch plug on it's own for $2.88 +shipping or the carb assy for $60.88.

I guess I am curious if anyone else has rebuilt their carb and if they ran into any problems? I want to hit Darling tomorrow and at this point might be swinging by Scheels to pick up a new auger in the morning! I've been wanting to buy a new auger anyway and this just might be my excuse.

If you have any advice, please share it with me-

Thanks,

Dan
Re: Rebuilding a Strikemaster Auger Carb
by fish-head on 01/08/2010 8:50 PM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
fish-head
Joined: 08/21/2007
Location: ND
Went through the same thing a few years ago, then I brought it to Garden Hut in GF. I had them put on a new carb and tune it up, problem solved.
"A true friend is one who overlooks your failures and tolerates your sucesses"
Re: Rebuilding a Strikemaster Auger Carb
by Dan_F on 01/08/2010 8:53 PM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
Dan_F
Joined: 12/15/2009
Location: ND
If you don't mind me asking, how much did that run you? I am just trying to see how much I will wind up spending on this thing to get it running.
Re: Rebuilding a Strikemaster Auger Carb
by rooster on 01/08/2010 9:51 PM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
rooster
Joined: 12/16/2001
Location: ND
I also have an early 2000's model Tecumseh on my Jiffy.  Ran good until this year.  The problem I have is I have to keep pumping the priming bulb in order to keep it running.  On "wide open" while drilling holes it runs fine.  But when I slow it down it wants to keep dying unless I repeatedly pump the priming bulb.  I went the cheap route and just replaced the diaphragm.  This has not solved the problem.  I'm just mechanically inclined enough to be dangerous so if any of you "motorheads" have an idea on what could be wrong I would love to hear it.
Re: Rebuilding a Strikemaster Auger Carb
by beedoggs1 on 01/08/2010 10:18 PM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
beedoggs1
Joined: 12/11/2008
Location: ND
how's the ice on darling? I'd love to hit there, good ice? lots of snow on the ice? can you get on with 4 wheel drive and fish safely?
Re: Rebuilding a Strikemaster Auger Carb
by Dan_F on 01/08/2010 10:37 PM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
Dan_F
Joined: 12/15/2009
Location: ND
So it looks like a new auger in the morning..... Anyone have "the" place to buy a new one in Minot?

Ice on Darling... over 18" and that was last Sunday. Limited on perch and walleyes (16"+) in less than 4 hours.
Re: Rebuilding a Strikemaster Auger Carb
by Hardwaterman on 01/08/2010 10:44 PM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
Hardwaterman
Joined: 11/06/2002
Location: ND
This is a very common problem when people do a rebuild. It is a little late, but here is some advice for the future. The problem you described sounded more like fouling from bad fuel. Varnish like build up in the jet port etc... Running sea foam though it mixed with the gas would have helped. It also sounds as if the carb needed so adjustments as well in tweaking the idle and power adjustments.

But to fix your current issue, take it back apart carefully to avoid damaging any seals. Using a carb cleaner and low volume air clean out the jet areas and the needle valve. Even small flecks of crud can keep them from closing properly. Had a piece of insect leg in mine a few years back, I think it was a spider leg. I did not remember to clean out the spout on the gas can.
In my lifetime I have seen fence row to fence row farming and the return of CRP and game to the landscape.Now we face again the prosepect of fence row to fence row again! Sportsman are our own worst enemy in that we fail to look forward and focus to much on the now!
Re: Rebuilding a Strikemaster Auger Carb
by riverview on 01/08/2010 10:57 PM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
riverview
Joined: 12/25/2008
Location: ND
was there a reason you pulled the welch plug out? I would pull it apart and see if the plug fell out. That would cause a rich flood out and die condition. Some of the needle valve seats have a small rubber part that goes inside the seat and is easy to misplace. It sounds to me like yours was running fine and the plug vibrated out.
Re: Rebuilding a Strikemaster Auger Carb
by All4eyes on 01/09/2010 10:21 PM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
All4eyes
Joined: 01/22/2003
Location: ND
Take it to the small engine shop at Gooseneck (John Deere), They fixed up my buddies auger, and I think that it was under $100.  BTW Seafoam probably would have fixed the problem in a tank of gas or less.

If it flies it dies!
Re: Rebuilding a Strikemaster Auger Carb
by greyrider on 01/09/2010 10:50 PM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
greyrider
Joined: 12/06/2002
Location: ND
Hardwaterman,

Can you give the basics of adjusting the
screws so the auger will run decently?
There are two screws, and I don't know
which one goes which way.  I have a Jiffy
Model 30.

Thank You

566thMedCo/54thMedevacDet(Dust-Off)
"The louder you scream, the faster we come"


 
 

 
Re: Rebuilding a Strikemaster Auger Carb
by Hardwaterman on 01/10/2010 00:44 AM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
Hardwaterman
Joined: 11/06/2002
Location: ND
Couple things first! For Jiffy augers that run CJ6 plugs put in a CJ8, Length is the same, but the spark a bit hotter, but not enough to cause damage to the top of the cylinder! Next if you are not running a synthetic oil like AmOil or Optic2 which is what I use, I would highly suggest it. Less smoke, easier starting and plugs stay cleaner longer! All which help with the overall performance of the auger.

How to adjust.! Screw on the left when facing the carb is the low idle speed!, the one on the right the high speed adjustment.. Start by getting the engine good and warm, if you need to pump the primer or run it with the choke for do so. Once it is warm then start with the slow speed adjustment first. Turn the screw counter clockwise about a 1/4 of a turn then rev the engine a bit. It takes a bit for the adjustments to show up.
This will increase the fuel supply. If the engine seems to be flooding out, then turn it clockwise to lean it out.

Now move to the power setting. A lot of the augers I have adjusted would run  under load fine with the choke set at the half way point. This showed me that it was running to lean and starving for fuel. The power adjustment works in the same way as the idle screw. CCW to increase fuel,CW to decrease fuel.

Once you get the power side running well you may find that the idle will need a slight adjustment again, all in all the most time it has taken me is about 15 minutes to adjust a running auger on the ice.

When starting over after rebuilding a carb and taking everything out to clean the ports etc.... I start by turning both screws CW until they bottom out. Be careful not to force the screw as it can strip or damage the valve. I then turn the idle screw out CCW one full turn and the power screw 3/4 of a turn CCW. This will get the auger started. It is also what I do with an auger that is not running or cannot be started easily!

Hope this helps. This works on all 3 hp Tecumseh motors regardless of the brand of auger.
In my lifetime I have seen fence row to fence row farming and the return of CRP and game to the landscape.Now we face again the prosepect of fence row to fence row again! Sportsman are our own worst enemy in that we fail to look forward and focus to much on the now!
Re: Rebuilding a Strikemaster Auger Carb
by greyrider on 01/10/2010 09:20 AM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
greyrider
Joined: 12/06/2002
Location: ND
Hardwaterman,

Thank You for all your advice.  I just finished
getting the snow blower to run decently, now
I guess I'm ready to take on the auger.  Like
alot of augers, it will only run full power on
1/2 choke, started doing that last year and
I just never got around to fixing it.

Thank You Again

566thMedCo/54thMedevacDet(Dust-Off)
"The louder you scream, the faster we come"


 
 

 
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