Reasons why the Vikings Suck... (non political).

Listening to a little AM sports talk radio this afternoon... all they can talk about is how damn awesome RGIII, Andrew Luck and Russell Wilson are.... blah, blah, blah, blah, bliggetty friggin blah...

It got me to thinking how much MY Minnesota Vikings suck arse.  I started going thru all of the ways and reasons i feel this way.  Pretty soon my head was overflowing with information... there were just too many reasons for my brain to wrap its little comfort blanket around.  So, I figured I would start a thread to get a little more insight and clarity... please feel free to give your input here.  I will start:

1.  Christian Ponder the different ways we suck

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Hey cheer up Michael Vick will be available next year!

 

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2. we have terrible WR
3. Our OC doens't know when to use Peterson. USE him on 3rd and 2!!!!

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it's really the whole offense.  Line does an average job on it's best days.  No premiere receiver you can count on getting open when it's needed.  AP struggles catching the ball.  Pass blocking is sketchy at best.  QB is dismal.  The defense can keep you in just about any game if it's motivated to do so.  The special teams have been very good. 

 

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2.  The playing calling.

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The fans. Sorry, had to do it.

 

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 Definitely the fans. 

Is it impious to weigh goose music and art in the same scales? I think not, because the true hunter is merely a noncreative artist. Who painted the first picture on a bone in the caves of France? A hunter. Who alone in our modern life so thrills to the sight of living beauty that he will endure hunger and thirst and cold to feed his eye upon it? The hunter. Who wrote the great hunter's poem about the sheer wonder of the wind, the hail, and the snow, the stars, the lightnings, and the clouds, the lion, the deer, and the wild goat, the raven, the hawk, and the eagle, and above all the eulogy to the horse? Job, one of the great dramatic artists of all time. Poets sing and hunters scale the mountains primarily for one and the same reason--the thrill of beauty. Critics write and hunters outwit their game primarily for one and the same reason--to reduce that beauty to possession. The differences are largely matters of degree, consciousness, and that sly arbiter of the classification of human activities, language. If, then, we can live without goose music, we may as well do away with stars, or sunsets, or Iliads. But the point is we would be fools to do away with any of them. 

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fans like carl are what we need to be

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At this time of year most all teams have line issues as large offensive lineman start to breakdown with ankle and leg injuries,it happens every year to every team. Ponder cannot throw a ball accurately or more importantly consistently. He does not have a strong arm and he suffers with control issues, ala T Jack!

Like Viking QB's for many many years (excluding rent a QB for one year, Favre) The QB is a bottom half of the NFL quality player. Its a constant theme in Minny for many years.Vikes have had 1 quality QB in its entire history and that was in the 1970's, meaning, 40 years!!!!!!!

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 I'm not a packers an but a buddy posted this on FB and I thought it was pretty funny. 

Is it impious to weigh goose music and art in the same scales? I think not, because the true hunter is merely a noncreative artist. Who painted the first picture on a bone in the caves of France? A hunter. Who alone in our modern life so thrills to the sight of living beauty that he will endure hunger and thirst and cold to feed his eye upon it? The hunter. Who wrote the great hunter's poem about the sheer wonder of the wind, the hail, and the snow, the stars, the lightnings, and the clouds, the lion, the deer, and the wild goat, the raven, the hawk, and the eagle, and above all the eulogy to the horse? Job, one of the great dramatic artists of all time. Poets sing and hunters scale the mountains primarily for one and the same reason--the thrill of beauty. Critics write and hunters outwit their game primarily for one and the same reason--to reduce that beauty to possession. The differences are largely matters of degree, consciousness, and that sly arbiter of the classification of human activities, language. If, then, we can live without goose music, we may as well do away with stars, or sunsets, or Iliads. But the point is we would be fools to do away with any of them. 

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2. we have terrible WR
3. Our OC doens't know when to use Peterson. USE him on 3rd and 2!!!!

Give the ball to Peterson 50 times a game is great of paper. yep, on paper! According to Vikes fans Peterson should touch the ball every play, and return kick-offs. Peterson wont make the season with the workload they are putting on him now. The time is ticking for him taking a bad hit yet this year.Than let the finger pointing begin. Fact is, you are a bad football team.

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2. we have terrible WR
3. Our OC doens't know when to use Peterson. USE him on 3rd and 2!!!!

Give the ball to Peterson 50 times a game is great of paper. yep, on paper! According to Vikes fans Peterson should touch the ball every play, and return kick-offs. Peterson wont make the season with the workload they are putting on him now. The time is ticking for him taking a bad hit yet this year.Than let the finger pointing begin. Fact is, you are a bad football team.

you really only got about 2-3 years left outa him anyway...... might as well ride that horse til it bucks

 

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As much as I hate to say it Harvin (or lack of) has really hurt the Vikings…he had a knack for bailing out ponder when AP couldn’t…there lack of a down the field threat receiver hurts their entire passing attack as defenses can play up in the box.  

…it was very funnier earlier in the year when the Vikings won a few games (superbowl homeboy) then reality set in…the Vikings will never be a legitimate playoff threat without a solid QB…and the problem with that logic is it only holds true as long as you have one of the best RB in the game…AP ain’t getting any younger. So unless they can reach out and grab a savvy veteran in the offseason the Vikings will forever be a 7-9 may be 8-8 team. 


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No mention of the 90% third down conversion rate that happened by a weak Packer team Sunday in the second half.  I think it's more than the offense but the play calling seems weak.  I think Ponder's interceptions can partly be blamed on Musgrave's predictability allowing defenses to jump the routes.  Not an excuse for Ponder just a point of view.

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yes!  i am glad we are getting so much input on this important issue.  things are becoming much clearer now that i am able to see things in writing instead of just floating around in my mind.  keep em coming please. 

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Something to ponder.  If christian is the answer, what is the question.

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 The problem is 100% offense, but I still think they back their way into a wild card, may even take the division. Too many jobs are on the line for the offense to have a repeat of the last two weeks. 


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yes!  i am glad we are getting so much input on this important issue.  things are becoming much clearer now that i am able to see things in writing instead of just floating around in my mind.  keep em coming please. 

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yup that's espringers......... that and his endless babbling.

 

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6-6 is good enough reason for me Go Packers

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Funny guys! Now back on task.. this thread is super serious.... Concentrate.

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 The problem is 100% offense, but I still think they back their way into a wild card, may even take the division. Too many jobs are on the line for the offense to have a repeat of the last two weeks. 

ialto   send this to common it will make the cut

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I honestly believe they need to go back to playing outside....the dome has turned them into a bunch of pansies!! Before they had the metrodome they actually went to superbowls...not that they won any of em but they still went!!

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2. we have terrible WR
3. Our OC doens't know when to use Peterson. USE him on 3rd and 2!!!!

Give the ball to Peterson 50 times a game is great of paper. yep, on paper! According to Vikes fans Peterson should touch the ball every play, and return kick-offs. Peterson wont make the season with the workload they are putting on him now. The time is ticking for him taking a bad hit yet this year.Than let the finger pointing begin. Fact is, you are a bad football team.

You're kidding right?

he's averaging 6.2 yards a carry, at that rate..best all-time for a season. Give him the ball while he's still healthy. You obviously don't know the difference between a good football team and a bad football. Our defense has been great this year, our running game is the best in the league..how are we a bad team? We just don't have a QB. You must be a packer fan. heh heh.

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 I'm not a packers an but a buddy posted this on FB and I thought it was pretty funny. 

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 The problem is 100% offense, but I still think they back their way into a wild card, may even take the division. Too many jobs are on the line for the offense to have a repeat of the last two weeks. 

    

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The Vikings suck????Maybe-maybe not!!there's about15 teams with worst records!!!GO VIKINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Why they suck? IMO it all starts with the front office and it goes back to the "Great Train Robbery" in 1992 when they tore up a good team and gave 18 picks to Dallas for Hersal Walker! Since that time we haven't had a decent coaching staff and have had to make due with washed up Quarterbacks that outstayed their welcome elsewhere. IMO it all starts at the top with the poor decisions that have been made over the years.

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Top reasons to explain Vikings sucking according to Viking fans.

1.) Blame the coach.
2.) Blame the quarterback.
3.) Blame the refs.

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biggamehunter Said:

RebelRouser Said:

biggamehunter Said:
2. we have terrible WR
3. Our OC doens't know when to use Peterson. USE him on 3rd and 2!!!!

Give the ball to Peterson 50 times a game is great of paper. yep, on paper! According to Vikes fans Peterson should touch the ball every play, and return kick-offs. Peterson wont make the season with the workload they are putting on him now. The time is ticking for him taking a bad hit yet this year.Than let the finger pointing begin. Fact is, you are a bad football team.

You're kidding right?

he's averaging 6.2 yards a carry, at that rate..best all-time for a season. Give him the ball while he's still healthy. You obviously don't know the difference between a good football team and a bad football. Our defense has been great this year, our running game is the best in the league..how are we a bad team? We just don't have a QB. You must be a packer fan. heh heh.

 Why do Viking fans always refer to the team using "we" or "our"? I rarely hear fans of other teams refer to it as "we". The defense, running game, and QB have nothing to do with you. You are a fan of the team, not a member of the team.

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biggamehunter Said:

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biggamehunter Said:
2. we have terrible WR
3. Our OC doens't know when to use Peterson. USE him on 3rd and 2!!!!

Give the ball to Peterson 50 times a game is great of paper. yep, on paper! According to Vikes fans Peterson should touch the ball every play, and return kick-offs. Peterson wont make the season with the workload they are putting on him now. The time is ticking for him taking a bad hit yet this year.Than let the finger pointing begin. Fact is, you are a bad football team.

You're kidding right?

he's averaging 6.2 yards a carry, at that rate..best all-time for a season. Give him the ball while he's still healthy. You obviously don't know the difference between a good football team and a bad football. Our defense has been great this year, our running game is the best in the league..how are we a bad team? We just don't have a QB. You must be a packer fan. heh heh.

 Why do Viking fans always refer to the team using "we" or "our"? I rarely hear fans of other teams refer to it as "we". The defense, running game, and QB have nothing to do with you. You are a fan of the team, not a member of the team.

I would bet money that there are fans from every single NFL team that say that!! Who in the sam hill cares how other people refer to an NFL team anyways?  Not something to lose sleep over. You will find any excuse to rag on the vikings or the Sioux!!

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bradyg Said:

biggamehunter Said:

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biggamehunter Said:
2. we have terrible WR
3. Our OC doens't know when to use Peterson. USE him on 3rd and 2!!!!

Give the ball to Peterson 50 times a game is great of paper. yep, on paper! According to Vikes fans Peterson should touch the ball every play, and return kick-offs. Peterson wont make the season with the workload they are putting on him now. The time is ticking for him taking a bad hit yet this year.Than let the finger pointing begin. Fact is, you are a bad football team.

You're kidding right?

he's averaging 6.2 yards a carry, at that rate..best all-time for a season. Give him the ball while he's still healthy. You obviously don't know the difference between a good football team and a bad football. Our defense has been great this year, our running game is the best in the league..how are we a bad team? We just don't have a QB. You must be a packer fan. heh heh.

 Why do Viking fans always refer to the team using "we" or "our"? I rarely hear fans of other teams refer to it as "we". The defense, running game, and QB have nothing to do with you. You are a fan of the team, not a member of the team.

because it makes more sense in stead of typing the MINNESOTA  VIKINGS, every.single.time.
Get over it.
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Hey cheer up Michael Vick will be available next year!

Oh i really hope they dont do that.. They should have learned with the McNabb experiment. He's too injury prone.

Call me crazy, but get Tim Tebow and run the option game.  Have Tebow as basically a wildcat QB. The guy knows how to win and the defense is good enough to keep them in games as long as the offense isn't turning the ball over. Go ahead and crucify me, but who are the other options? Mark Sanchez probably? F- that.. he's just like ponder.. Could rest AP for the entire 2013 season and lose every game  so we can draft Johnny "Football" number 1 overall. 

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This Vikings fan never blames the coaches,QB or refs-ha!Blame the clock,WE

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bradyg Said:

biggamehunter Said:

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biggamehunter Said:
2. we have terrible WR
3. Our OC doens't know when to use Peterson. USE him on 3rd and 2!!!!

Give the ball to Peterson 50 times a game is great of paper. yep, on paper! According to Vikes fans Peterson should touch the ball every play, and return kick-offs. Peterson wont make the season with the workload they are putting on him now. The time is ticking for him taking a bad hit yet this year.Than let the finger pointing begin. Fact is, you are a bad football team.

You're kidding right?

he's averaging 6.2 yards a carry, at that rate..best all-time for a season. Give him the ball while he's still healthy. You obviously don't know the difference between a good football team and a bad football. Our defense has been great this year, our running game is the best in the league..how are we a bad team? We just don't have a QB. You must be a packer fan. heh heh.

 Why do Viking fans always refer to the team using "we" or "our"? I rarely hear fans of other teams refer to it as "we". The defense, running game, and QB have nothing to do with you. You are a fan of the team, not a member of the team.

you have never met a packers fan than those boners think they own the stadium and have a say in what happens in the front office

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biggamehunter Said:

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2. we have terrible WR
3. Our OC doens't know when to use Peterson. USE him on 3rd and 2!!!!

Give the ball to Peterson 50 times a game is great of paper. yep, on paper! According to Vikes fans Peterson should touch the ball every play, and return kick-offs. Peterson wont make the season with the workload they are putting on him now. The time is ticking for him taking a bad hit yet this year.Than let the finger pointing begin. Fact is, you are a bad football team.

You're kidding right?

he's averaging 6.2 yards a carry, at that rate..best all-time for a season. Give him the ball while he's still healthy. You obviously don't know the difference between a good football team and a bad football. Our defense has been great this year, our running game is the best in the league..how are we a bad team? We just don't have a QB. You must be a packer fan. heh heh.

Petersons workload is not to much. It is where it needs to be. He only carried it 21 times against the pack. He should have gotten it about 30 that game. It just looked like a lot, when he averaged 10 yards a carry. If the Vikes are going to be successful, Ponder has to play well. Musgraves offense is very very vanilla.Run a few screen plays to change things up, get your qb into a flow of the game. I say go no huddle with the kid, that way he doesnt have time to think, he can just play. On defense, they need to blitz more. The front 4 arent getting it done on passing situations. The last 2 games, the Vikes played the teams with offensive lines in the bottom ten of the NFL. What did they get, 3 sacks, unacceptable with the likes of Jared Allen and Kevin Williams. Blitzing forces the qb to throw the ball a little earlier thus making the db's a chance to make a play on the ball. Just my 2 cents.

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Ponder needs to spend more time on the practice field throwing to his recievers.  But then he is in kind of a dilemna.  Practice or Hot Blonde at home?  Based on his productivity it looks like he's been chosing the Hot Blonde option.  Unfortunately there isn't a Hot Blonde option play on the field.

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biggamehunter Said:

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biggamehunter Said:
2. we have terrible WR
3. Our OC doens't know when to use Peterson. USE him on 3rd and 2!!!!

Give the ball to Peterson 50 times a game is great of paper. yep, on paper! According to Vikes fans Peterson should touch the ball every play, and return kick-offs. Peterson wont make the season with the workload they are putting on him now. The time is ticking for him taking a bad hit yet this year.Than let the finger pointing begin. Fact is, you are a bad football team.

You're kidding right?

he's averaging 6.2 yards a carry, at that rate..best all-time for a season. Give him the ball while he's still healthy. You obviously don't know the difference between a good football team and a bad football. Our defense has been great this year, our running game is the best in the league..how are we a bad team? We just don't have a QB. You must be a packer fan. heh heh.

Petersons workload is not to much. It is where it needs to be. He only carried it 21 times against the pack. He should have gotten it about 30 that game. It just looked like a lot, when he averaged 10 yards a carry. If the Vikes are going to be successful, Ponder has to play well. Musgraves offense is very very vanilla.Run a few screen plays to change things up, get your qb into a flow of the game. I say go no huddle with the kid, that way he doesnt have time to think, he can just play. On defense, they need to blitz more. The front 4 arent getting it done on passing situations. The last 2 games, the Vikes played the teams with offensive lines in the bottom ten of the NFL. What did they get, 3 sacks, unacceptable with the likes of Jared Allen and Kevin Williams. Blitzing forces the qb to throw the ball a little earlier thus making the db's a chance to make a play on the ball. Just my 2 cents.

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Ponder needs to spend more time on the practice field throwing to his recievers.  But then he is in kind of a dilemna.  Practice or Hot Blonde at home?  Based on his productivity it looks like he's been chosing the Hot Blonde option.  Unfortunately there isn't a Hot Blonde option play on the field.

I'm guessing he's going to get to spend all the time he wants with her real soon

 

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Funny guys! Now back on task.. this thread is super serious.... Concentrate.

Thoughts ??? why do you suspect they suck so bad....


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Yellow... In my best gst voice... I don't have to answer ur silly questions. This is my thread and I ask the questions not answer them. So, if the world was hit by a meteor, and started spinning the other way, would our seasons be reversed too?

Seriously tho... Be back in bout 2 hours. I've got this thing figured out.

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The Vikings suck????Maybe-maybe not!!there's about15 teams with worst records!!!GO VIKINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah but we don't have to listen to those other 15 teams fans when they win  2 games out of the first 3 every year that they are going to the superbowl!  Just wait it out from now on and maybe you all wouldn't get so much crap. 

I think the reason they suck is the fans build them up so high early in the season, then poop, down they go and its oh well, we weren't the worst team, we did better than i thought, all that kind of jazz talk.

 

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You have to listen to it????Whos making you?? yVou've got issues??

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my phone,wow!!Vikings fans are use to getting crap,from non-vikings fans!!!come on Bradley drink the purple koolaid,GO VIKINGS!!!!!!

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 If Vick came cheap enough, they really have nothing to lose. But bring in Tebow and I probably don't have to watch football ever again. They may as well put Rudolph under center, or just play Webb. They already have 3 QBs on the roster that cannot throw, why add the most polarizing POS to ever suck at that position.


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my phone,wow!!Vikings fans are use to getting crap,from non-vikings fans!!!come on Bradley drink the purple koolaid,GO VIKINGS!!!!!!

I tried the purple koolaid, its like Reddog beer, not bad the first 3 sips (games) but then leaves such a horrible aftertaste, makes you want to cut your own throat out to get that taste out of your mouth.

but i guess you like the taste or at least you can choke it down time and time and time and time and time X's 1,000,000,000...... to each thier own!

i just wouldn't brag about Reddog that's all.

 

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Yellow... In my best gst voice... I don't have to answer ur silly questions. This is my thread and I ask the questions not answer them. So, if the world was hit by a meteor, and started spinning the other way, would our seasons be reversed too?

Seriously tho... Be back in bout 2 hours. I've got this thing figured out.

I dont know why its so hard for you to answer my question?

Why do you feel you are ENTITLED to your opinion of the vikings?

There are people in the front office of the vikings that are more than capable of doing there job. They dont need you and your armchair fixing things.

The organization needs to stop with these midde of the road, neutralist, centrist quarterbacks and get back to the right wing, farm boy, dip in der mouth the whole game, corn fed football players.

Espringers, you need to take the blinders off and realize its the defense thats losing the games?

The NFL needs to stop with the salary cap, luxury taxes, and all the other handouts that lesser market teams gets. Then the vikings will flourish. Look at the US. Poor people getting my money to buy drugs and tv's. Its just like the nfl with there small market teams.

I dont know what this league has come to, they cant even hit anymore without being penalized!

So answer me this Espringers. How do you feel about the texans chances of winning the super bowl....hmmmmmm?

Please no dodging, and ducking the question this time. A simple straight forward answer will do.

 

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joe h Said:
 If Vick came cheap enough, they really have nothing to lose. But bring in Tebow and I probably don't have to watch football ever again. They may as well put Rudolph under center, or just play Webb. They already have 3 QBs on the roster that cannot throw, why add the most polarizing POS to ever suck at that position.

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