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"Posted" verse "Leased" Signs

by , Posted to on 06/28/2011 09:43 AM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 04/05/2011
Location: nd
Last year I hunted some land that was posted by the land owner.  I had permission.  The problem was the land owner allowed others to hunt the land as well.  This year I am leasing said land exclusively.  I am afraid if I simply post it with the land owner's name,  people will assume they have the same permission to the property as last year.

I am wondering if I should put up, "Leased Land" signs.

Anyone out there ever deal with this scenario?

Bottom line is I need to communicate that things have changed.  I'm just not sure a standard "Posted" sign will do.

Thoughts?

Thanks!

Mark
Dr. Mark
Re: "Posted" verse "Leased" Signs
by on 06/28/2011 09:40 AM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 04/05/2011
Location: nd
Dr. Mark
Re: "Posted" verse "Leased" Signs
by on 06/28/2011 09:49 AM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/12/2003
Location: ND
 So you've taken away opportunity from others and want to make sure they know they're no longer welcome?

This moment is a paradox, it's the oldest you've ever been as well as the youngest you'll ever be.


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by on 06/28/2011 09:51 AM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/26/2010
Location: nd
Sounds like a problem......I would just hire a security guard. 
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Re: "Posted" verse "Leased" Signs
by on 06/28/2011 09:56 AM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 04/16/2007
Location: SD
The land owner by allowing the lease of HIS land could be to blame for taking the oportunity away.  Boy that guy must be an asshole for leasing HIS land. 
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by on 06/28/2011 10:00 AM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/26/2010
Location: SD
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Re: "Posted" verse "Leased" Signs
by on 06/28/2011 10:02 AM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/09/2003
Location: ND
If more people were courteous, respectful and honest things may have never gotten to the point where there would be a need for leasing hunting land; but alas it tis the world that we live in. I don't think we should belittle anyone for leasing hunting rights, how is it any different than paying to go on a guided hunt? The answer to the oringinal posters question: use a differnet style poster than thee landowner had used and post your name, telephone number and address as you are now the legal poster of the land.

Hunt Hard and NEVER GIVE UP

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by on 06/28/2011 10:02 AM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 04/05/2011
Location: nd
Well, it was a complete mess out there last year.  We had guys busting hunts for others who had set up food plots and hung stands.  Eventually the right hand didn't know what the left hand was doing.  The land owner was completely shocked that so many people were on his land.  I think it was one of those deals where a friend gave a friend who gave a friend permission to the property.  My heart is not to squelch folk's right or even ability to hunt.  I am just trying to safeguard that the 80 acres is being hunted by those doing all the leg work in making it huntable and desirable to the wildlife that resides there.

It's almost to the place where it's a posted PLOTS land.

Mark
Dr. Mark
Re: "Posted" verse "Leased" Signs
by on 06/28/2011 10:04 AM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 05/06/2011
Location: ND
We own and lease about the same amount of land, and we only put our name on the posted signs. We might be in a different boat than you because the owners don't hunt and have given us the rights to be able to post it, but I would ask the land owner if you can put your name on it so people call you to hunt.

Just to clarify things that is why we post our land, so we know when people are on it. We like to know who is on the land so if there is a mess or something we know who is was. Yes, we say no to people, mainly on opening weekends and where we have our bow hunting blinds set up prior to gun season, but that doesn't mean we never let people hunt.

 
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by on 06/28/2011 10:05 AM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/26/2010
Location: nd
Drmark Said:
Last year I hunted some land that was posted by the land owner.  I had permission.  The problem was the land owner allowed others to hunt the land as well.  This year I am leasing said land exclusively.  I am afraid if I simply post it with the land owner's name,  people will assume they have the same permission to the property as last year.

I am wondering if I should put up, "Leased Land" signs.

Anyone out there ever deal with this scenario?

Bottom line is I need to communicate that things have changed.  I'm just not sure a standard "Posted" sign will do.

Thoughts?

Thanks!

Mark
Sorry man, all your going to do is start a fire on this site asking a question like that.  My family owns a fare share of land, and we are very anti leasing.  Controlling is one thing, but being greedy is altogether something different.  Hunt clubs and land leasing is the kiss of death to hunting as we know it. 


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by on 06/28/2011 10:12 AM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/12/2003
Location: ND
 
Drmark Said:
 The problem was the land owner allowed others to hunt the land as well.  This year I am leasing said land exclusively.  I am afraid if I simply post it with the land owner's name,  people will assume they have the same permission to the property as last year.

As far as a sign goes here's all you really need to consider.  If a person or group of people approach the landowner you've leased from and offer him more $$ than you're willing to spend next year, what sort of sign will it take to keep you out? 

This moment is a paradox, it's the oldest you've ever been as well as the youngest you'll ever be.


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by on 06/28/2011 10:16 AM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 05/06/2011
Location: ND
Horsager Said:
 
Drmark Said:
 The problem was the land owner allowed others to hunt the land as well.  This year I am leasing said land exclusively.  I am afraid if I simply post it with the land owner's name,  people will assume they have the same permission to the property as last year.

As far as a sign goes here's all you really need to consider.  If a person or group of people approach the landowner you've leased from and offer him more $$ than you're willing to spend next year, what sort of sign will it take to keep you out? 
And as far as my earlier comment goes, my family's land is all for farming and ranching with the added bonus of hunting. So leasing land just for hunting purposes is a slippery slope. Someone always has more money...

 
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by on 06/28/2011 10:21 AM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/03/2004
Location: ND
I say post it with your name on the sign, I think that's legal if you are leasing it with exclusive hunting rights written into the lease agreement (let me know if Im wrong). Then people will see the name has changed and hopefully not trespass. Also change the signs to a different color or something, that should get their attention. If that fails you could put up razor wire instead of barbed wire!
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by on 06/28/2011 10:21 AM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
fisherman25 Said:
Sorry man, all your going to do is start a fire on this site asking a question like that.  My family owns a fare share of land, and we are very anti leasing.  Controlling is one thing, but being greedy is altogether something different.  Hunt clubs and land leasing is the kiss of death to hunting as we know it. 



I think they key to your comment is that your family "owns a fair share of land."  For those of us who are not fortunate enough to grow up in family farms or situations where our family owns a lot of land land, leasing is the only way to guarantee a quality hunt.  I think this is especially true for people who use the land for bowhunting, like I do.  Scent control and heavy traffic are things that can ruin a bowhunting spot; things you cannot control if 20 other guys are coming out there every week.  In the eastern part of the State, the PLOTS get hit really hard and the non-posted private land is becoming harder to find.  I don't mind sharing property with a few other people, but I can absolutely understand where Drmark is coming from. 
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by on 06/28/2011 10:24 AM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/16/2001
Location: ND
Dmark, you need to have your name and the owners name. lessor, and lesse.  Have fun abd keep the magpies out.
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by on 06/28/2011 10:31 AM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/09/2003
Location: ND
If you lease the hunting rights you have full control of access other than the landowner  doing his or her day to day activities, and utility workers i.e. electric coop. Stipulations can change dependent on term of said contract, but in general that is how most hunting leases read.

Hunt Hard and NEVER GIVE UP

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by on 06/28/2011 10:35 AM | Reply #16 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
Oh boy, you may as well go into the bait business; a can of worms has just been opened.
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by on 06/28/2011 10:38 AM | Reply #17 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: nd
Bri-Guy2 Said:
fisherman25 Said:
Sorry man, all your going to do is start a fire on this site asking a question like that.  My family owns a fare share of land, and we are very anti leasing.  Controlling is one thing, but being greedy is altogether something different.  Hunt clubs and land leasing is the kiss of death to hunting as we know it. 



I think they key to your comment is that your family "owns a fair share of land."  For those of us who are not fortunate enough to grow up in family farms or situations where our family owns a lot of land land, leasing is the only way to guarantee a quality hunt.  I think this is especially true for people who use the land for bowhunting, like I do.  Scent control and heavy traffic are things that can ruin a bowhunting spot; things you cannot control if 20 other guys are coming out there every week.  In the eastern part of the State, the PLOTS get hit really hard and the non-posted private land is becoming harder to find.  I don't mind sharing property with a few other people, but I can absolutely understand where Drmark is coming from. 
I know where your coming from, but I disagree.  I've had the privelage of taking a lot of quality deer in the 14 or so years I've hunted.  I actually have a hand full of deer in the 160 to 180 class.  You may not believe it, but I haven't taken any of these deer on our land.  Every one of them came off public land, or private land that I and several other had permission to hunt on.  So to tell me a quality hunt cannot come off land that isn't "sealed", I won't buy it. 

Live hard! Die happy!
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by on 06/28/2011 10:41 AM | Reply #18 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
Many of the same people that get their panties in bunch over hunting leases see nothing wrong with going on guided hunt elsewhere as if outfitters don't have any leased land. My family is involved in a small hunting lease and we rarely ever turn away a bird hunter, and have turned away about 1/2 deer hunters which really isn't all that bad considering the owner turned away about 90% of the hunters who asked permission previeous to our lease.

Hunt Hard and NEVER GIVE UP

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by on 06/28/2011 10:45 AM | Reply #19 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
Fisherman25 u sound very lucky to me. In some areas of the state u would be lucky to find ANY suitable habitat that isn't posted. The land left unposted is barren and the few parcels of state owned land is trampled relentlessly, so just keep in mind not every situation is the same as yours!

Hunt Hard and NEVER GIVE UP

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by on 06/28/2011 10:56 AM | Reply #20 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/18/2004
Location: ND
I have taken a couple of big Muleys in the Killdeer mountians and it was all public land, the land owners RARELY let anyone on. Its perfectly do able and you dont have to be grilled by a grumpy old rancher.

LINDY FISHING





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