Pickling salt?

Ive noticed that pickling salt sold at walmart and grocery stores is EXPENSIVE, but you can get 99.8 % pure 'food grade', coarse ground salt at menards for water softeners for $5.50 for a 50lb bag. Any reason not to use this salt for canning purposes?

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short answer is no... even tho its made w/ food grade salt, there are probably other additives in the leftover %.  additionally, the pressing process isn't done w/ food grade presses and can result in contamination.  does make you wonder why "food grade" salt is so expensive tho.  if the softener salt gets additives and undergoes pressing but starts w/ the same product, it should be more expensive... not ten times as cheap.  my smeller sniffs something here.

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 Pickling salt is twice ground so it is very fine and designed to dissolve fast.  You can use regular non-iodized salt sitting right next to it for a lot less $.

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Picking salt isnt supposed to have iodine.

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I did some searching and the general opinion is, as long as you get the 'pure salt' form of water softener salt, its the same thing. Of course the salt places dont recommend it but if its pure enough to be used in drinking water, its pure enough to eat. I think I found my new source of canning salt.

www.menards.com/main/home-decor/grocery/softener-salt/natural-salt-extra-coarse-water-softener-salt/p-1476301-c-6727.htm


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Cargill has alot on the subject.
 

Can you use softener salt with food, such as canning or with meat packing?

Although water softener pellets may be made from food grade salt, the pellet press process, itself, does not meet the criteria required to call the finished pellets "food grade". Therefore, direct application of pellets in food processing is not recommended. Other water softening salt products like solar salt, rock salt and brine blocks are not recommended for food application for the same reason.

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I should add, some water softener products DO contain additives that you wouldnt want to eat, but the product will be labeled that it has additives like "resin kleen" etc.

Sounds like food salt is more expensive primarily because they have to test it for specific pollutants, even tho it comes from the same sources and equipment and it is packaged differently.

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I would say the extra $$ for the tested salt is better than blowing out a kidney or putting the hurt on the old liver. 

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I would say the extra $$ for the tested salt is better than blowing out a kidney or putting the hurt on the old liver. 

Thats right, no one on FBO would ever put a hurt on their liver.

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Seems like one box lasted for many jars of pickles, beans, etc, when I did it last year.  Is this for commerical canning?  How much are you canning?

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Im going to start canning a lot more than i have been, built a big set of shelves for it in my garage this winter. Pickles, carrots, beans, etc. Water softeners leave trace salt in the water, they couldnt allow harmful chemicals to be present. The salt companies just make a lot of money selling people salt, 1lb at a time for $1/lb...


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I don't plan to try change your mind but i do ask you you document your trip to menards buying jars, lids, canning books and throwing down that 50 lb bag of salt.  Pick the lane with the old lady in it.  

Nice shelves too. 

Curious, does Sam's Club sell Pickling Salt?  Maybe it's not about the salt and more about the principle in your view of the salt market.  I think i can respect that kind of crazy.  Good luck man. 

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Captain Ahab Said:
I would say the extra $$ for the tested salt is better than blowing out a kidney or putting the hurt on the old liver. 

Thats right, no one on FBO would ever put a hurt on their liver.

It's one thing to wound it, it's another to give it a permanent injury.

"Diligence is the mother of good luck."

"The constitution only gives people the right to pursue hapiness.  You have to catch it yourself."

"Well done is better than well said."

"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

All by:  Benjamin Franklin.

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Author: John Gierach

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Yeah, Ive got 2 shelves for 1/2 gallons, 5 shelves for quarts and 2 shelves for pint jars. Im not positive I built it strong enough to hold all that weight, fully stocked, hopefully it will work. I used 3/4 plywood for the sides, 5/8 waferboard for the back and 3/4 particle board for the shelves. The shelves are supported on the sides and along the back. I can replace the shelves with plywood if they start to sag but hopefully they will hold up. Shelves are 2' deep by almost 4' wide. I bought a shower curtain rod and curtain to keep dust out from the front and also keep light out.

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Also, if anyone is serious about canning, its worth checking into reusable canning lids. Im going to order some for this years canning. The disposable ones are a huge rip off (again a principal thing more than lack of funds). But with the end of the world only a few months away, it could save your life after society falls apart...

www.reusablecanninglids.com/

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Captain Ahab Said:
I would say the extra $$ for the tested salt is better than blowing out a kidney or putting the hurt on the old liver. 

Listen to the captain.

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aren't they all reusable?  or at least reusable many times before they break down?

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Actually the lids they make now arent nearly as good as they were 50 years ago. They are designed and the company recommends them to be thrown after one use (another company trying to make more money by producing inferior products). They used to use real rubber and now they use a foamy substance that collapses after use. They can still be used about 3 times, but you need to make sure you check that the jars are sealed because you will get ones that dont as the lids get older.

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I would strongly encourage a person to not use water softener salt.  That salt doesn't have to be as pure as you might think.  The only regulated part of the water that comes out of the softener is the final water quality, so it is concievable that the salt would impart minor amounts of unpleasantry into the water albeit still below the drinking water standard.

On the other hand, you are tossing a boat load of that salt into some of the canning processes and that brine would be far above drinking water standards in any potential contaminants.

Yes, Sam's Club does carry pickling salt, not sure about the variety in sizes or cost though, but I have seen it there before.

And when did the disposable lids become such an onerous cost as to use them multiple times?  Not that you can't reuse at your own risk but I am pretty sure they are one of the least expensive components in canning.

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Lids are about 30c each if you go by what amazon.com charges for them. I didnt see pickling salt at sams when I looked this weekend but they do have boxes of table salt. Maybe its not kept in the spice section where the rest of the salt is located though. Do you remember what size bags/boxes you saw there? The reusable lids are about 94c each but over time end up being a lot cheaper. Personally Id rather spend a little more than have to throw stuff away all the time, even if the disposable items are cheaper up front.

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Yes, Sam's Club does carry pickling salt, not sure about the variety in sizes or cost though, but I have seen it there before.

And when did the disposable lids become such an onerous cost as to use them multiple times?  Not that you can't reuse at your own risk but I am pretty sure they are one of the least expensive components in canning.

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Don't use softner salt........

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  Pickling salt is similar to table salt, but lacks the iodine and anti-caking additives that turn pickles dark and the pickling liquid cloudy.  Pickles made with table salt would still be good to eat, but they wouldn't look as appetizing.  

The water softener salt will probably cause the same issues or worse. I would suggest if you really want to use it then try a small batch early so it can set and you can see what your finished product will be like. 

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The MSDS for that salt I listed  is on the menards page, there are no ingredients besides salt and it is 99.8 % pure, much higher than required by the government to be considered 'food grade'.

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The MSDS for that salt I listed  is on the menards page, there are no ingredients besides salt and it is 99.8 % pure, much higher than required by the government to be considered 'food grade'.

I picked up softener salt at the home depot in Fargo and it was like $26.00 a bag.  Menards has it for $5.50? 

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 If I read the MSDS sheet correctly from the Menards site it is for sodium chloride (salt) not the actual product advertised as its trade name is not listed on the MSDS. 

If you look at the description of Natural Salt Water Softener Salt Cubes  on the site its listed as 99.8% pure salt, they also state they have a resin kleen additive in their product. There is not a link to the MSDS for that product.  

On the MSDS for the  product your looking at there is a company name and contact numbers for the manufacturer so I would contact them and possibly get the MSDS for that specific product instead of the generic one for salt that is on the Menards site.  

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Interesting, I did notice that some of their products say on the package they contain the resin kleen additive and others dont. I also noticed that there is salt at Runnings as an animal feed additive that is listed as solar milled, 99%+ pure, I wouldnt think there would be any additives to that, might not be as pure as table salt, but probably comes from the same salt ponds, must maybe the bottom that is more likely to contain dirt or other impurities. Anyone know of anyplace locally that you can buy larger quantities of salt that would be suitable for food preservation?

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 If I read the MSDS sheet correctly from the Menards site it is for sodium chloride (salt) not the actual product advertised as its trade name is not listed on the MSDS. 

If you look at the description of Natural Salt Water Softener Salt Cubes  on the site its listed as 99.8% pure salt, they also state they have a resin kleen additive in their product. There is not a link to the MSDS for that product.  

On the MSDS for the  product your looking at there is a company name and contact numbers for the manufacturer so I would contact them and possibly get the MSDS for that specific product instead of the generic one for salt that is on the Menards site.  

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Good heavens man, pickling salt at Sam's Club is $1.92 for 3 lbs.  If that makes the recipe unusable, you may wish to consider your sodium intake while still young enough for it to matter.

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Eating 6 pound walleys puts a hurt on my liver.  Hey muzzy how's your liver feel.

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Allen, I was headed there too... Major league production of pickled goods or what?

 

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