Petition to Legalize Marijuana in North Dakota

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You can make brownies instead!

eyexer Said:
I was just watching Huckabee and he says there was a study just released that claims that one joint is 20% more likely to cause cancer than one cigarette.  WTF?  anybody seen this study?  That would be a major blow to the dope smoking crowd. 
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One joint a day or one to two packs of cigs????

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eyexer Said:
I was just watching Huckabee and he says there was a study just released that claims that one joint is 20% more likely to cause cancer than one cigarette.  WTF?  anybody seen this study?  That would be a major blow to the dope smoking crowd. 

http://media.bonnint.net/slc/2499/249928/24992851.pdf

Pages 7-9 talks about the rationale.  Obviously their study was taken with an unfiltered joint.  I would like to see the study vs a malboro red with the filter removed.  Many users toke with vaporizers or bake goods these days anyways.

so there actually is a study to back up what he said.  interesting.  don't have time to read the study now but I'm sure like all studies there can be holes poked in it. 

 

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 When it all comes down too it. It you have the choice between pharmaceuticals or marijuana its your own decision. But what if your child got into your medicine and ate a lot. Honestly I'd rather have my kids if I even had kids that is, get into some marijuana than a bunch of pills that will kill them. I know your supposed to keep it in a safe spot but children are getting smarter. Honestly, if you could get prescribed to some marijuana to get rid of your headaches or nausea or anything why do we need to have these pills that's gonna do more harm. Not to you but your animals, and the younger people

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BeEasy Said:
 When it all comes down too it. It you have the choice between pharmaceuticals or marijuana its your own decision. But what if your child got into your medicine and ate a lot. Honestly I'd rather have my kids if I even had kids that is, get into some marijuana than a bunch of pills that will kill them. I know your supposed to keep it in a safe spot but children are getting smarter. Honestly, if you could get prescribed to some marijuana to get rid of your headaches or nausea or anything why do we need to have these pills that's gonna do more harm. Not to you but your animals, and the younger people

nope. marijuana is BAD! the pharmaceutical companies told me so

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Either legalize it or not, I don't care.   
Arguing about increasing head and neck cancers or lung cancers is the silliest thing of all!   This "reference" that was posted is one of those anti cannabis websites that are making all kinds of dumb statements like "Research has show @@#$ or @@%%! "    Yeah right! 
This pseudoscience nonsense is the  most unscientific stuff in the world, like so much of the medical advice junk science  on the internet these days!   
What did they do, take 10,00o volunteers and have 500o smoke a pack of cigarettes for 30 years and the other 5000 smoke one joint a day  the same length of time?  And somehow make it a double blinded crossover study?   Sheesh...Not a good idea to inhale any kind of smoke, but no beig deal either, unlike cigarette smoke. .
 I can't think of a single objective scientific method of getting valid numbers about this, and I've been critquing scientific papers all my life. 
 IMO too many  plain silly anecdotal arguments on both sides of this question.

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Yep, never any harm from someone on MJ!

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/27/us/florida-cannibal-attack/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

He only had MJ in his system.

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Pot made him do it!!! (couldnt be that he was a raving lunatic... )

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Yep, never any harm from someone on MJ!

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/27/us/florida-cannibal-attack/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

He only had MJ in his system.

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Maybe the pot kept him from killings hundreds

                                                                                                                         

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Lycanthrope Said:
Pot made him do it!!! (couldnt be that he was a raving lunatic... )

Pot made him a raging lunatic.

This moment is a paradox, it's the oldest you've ever been as well as the youngest you'll ever be.



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I know a guy that smokes everyday, and he is so motivated he can get up, take a toke, and spend his day washing dishes at a local cafe... Seems harmless to me, he is the one that still at 35+years of age still lives in his mothers basement. Of course we are not able to use the taxes he pays for anything worth while since he really doesnt pay any, nor is he able to insure himself, or really bring back anything to society other than a bunch of clean cups and plates.

Legal or not seems like any thing else some can handle it some cant.

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Yeah... That's it. Must've been da weed. Had nothing to do with the unknown pills in his stomach.

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espringers Said:
Yeah... That's it. Must've been da weed. Had nothing to do with the unknown pills in his stomach.

Reference for the unknown pills?  ME says only weed was in his system.  Momma says he's a choir boy.

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I believe it was a link in the article posted in the zombie apocalypse thread... The link bout the contents of his stomach.

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I believe it was a link in the article posted in the zombie apocalypse thread... The link bout the contents of his stomach.

Found that.  Undigested pills.  Do please explain how UNDIGESTED pills have any bearing.

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My guess is they forget the August 8th deadline and turn it in sometime mid-September.

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I can guarantee u they have more bearing than the pot did. There are millions of pot smokers in this country. He is the first that I know of to chew someone's face off. I understand u hate da weed horse. But, hatred and knowledge of are not one in the same.

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Lycanthrope Said:
Pot made him do it!!! (couldnt be that he was a raving lunatic... )

Pot made him a raging lunatic.

Proof?

http://news.yahoo.com/marijuana-didnt-trigger-miami-face-eaters-munchies-161730689.html

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Keep in mind this petition is for the MEDICAL USE of Marijuana and that is what my comment is about. I did not read all the comments but I skimmed through and see that some just can not think past the negative. Twist and turn this petition any way you want but don't forget the intentions of this petition, There is a positive side to Medical use that is far more beneficial than most of you care to learn because you already said NO, FINAL ANSWER years ago. Some either have not read anything but negative articles on this subject or have not read recent studies with an open mind. There is a ton of research that has proven far beyond any reasonable doubt that there are indeed medical benefits. I respect everyone's opinion as long as it is an educated opinion and not just what mom and dad taught you or what friends and neighbors think about it. Times are changing, I know it is hard to accept but some of the changes are for the good if you can just think past the negative. There was a new breakthrough recently that is a huge boost to the Medical value of this plant. Mark my words, Some day we will have little green MM pills that look like alfalfa pills legal here in North Dakota. There are people that could use them today, not 5- 10 or 20 years from now. Believe what you want but I still firmly believe the medical industry in the United States will fight this to the end and give MM a black eye every chance they can because of lost revenue. Other countries are doing research on this but hardly any going on in USA, are we that far behind times in the medical industry or do US companies know something that they are keeping secret ?

http://www.jdjournal.com/2012/06/28/now-what-medical-marijuana-that-doesnt-give-a-high/

This is a huge step in the right direction and should take away the scare that people will do wierd stuff like eating your face , Like  I saw on another thread on here. LOL 

Perhaps some who are the most boneheaded about medical use today will benefit from it in the future and be damn glad they are able to.

 

 

 

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Neat

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Childish

 

 

 

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"Diligence is the mother of good luck."

"The constitution only gives people the right to pursue hapiness.  You have to catch it yourself."

"Well done is better than well said."

"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

All by:  Benjamin Franklin.

"The solution to any problem - work, love, money, whatever - is to go fishing, and the bigger the problem, the longer the trip should be."

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"Diligence is the mother of good luck."

"The constitution only gives people the right to pursue hapiness.  You have to catch it yourself."

"Well done is better than well said."

"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

All by:  Benjamin Franklin.

"The solution to any problem - work, love, money, whatever - is to go fishing, and the bigger the problem, the longer the trip should be."

Author: John Gierach

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"Diligence is the mother of good luck."

"The constitution only gives people the right to pursue hapiness.  You have to catch it yourself."

"Well done is better than well said."

"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

All by:  Benjamin Franklin.

"The solution to any problem - work, love, money, whatever - is to go fishing, and the bigger the problem, the longer the trip should be."

Author: John Gierach

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Are you having fun Captain ?

 

 

 

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Interesting thread and definitely shows the difference in cultures. Where I grew up, more people smoked weed than drank. It was decriminalized meaning anything under an ounce was a petty offense and the negative stigma was literally nonexistant. People with limited exposure, and I know many, put all substances, pills, cocaine, heroine, meth, and even weed in one big bag and call them drugs. In my humble opinion, Marijuana simply doesn't belong in that bag, it just doesn't, but, if by your life experience or belief system you're going to put it in that bag, then you HAVE to put cigarettes and alcohal in there too. Don't misunderstand, I know lots of people who are pretty worthless because of weed and will never reach their potential. However, for every one of those people, I know 50 that have been negatively affected by liquor. Is the guy who gets drunk and beats his wife or kids, cheats, drives and kills someone better because it's socially acceptable?? Anything that alters the mind in the wrong hands, used improperly etc. can be bad regardless of the statistics, studies and everything else I've read through the last 8 pages. Debating the details on one side or the other just muddy's the water to try and prove you're right whichever side you're on.

To me the medical argument is just a front so it doesn't hold water. If someone was sick, particularly terminally, I wouldn't begrudge them from doing anything they want as long as it had no negative effects on others. If the legalize crowd were honest, they'd simply say they want to smoke it the same as most have a beer after work or on the weekend. Problem is, not unlike most things, is money. Money lost by big pharm, prisons, etc. but most of all the government's lack of ability to control and tax like liquor and cigarettes. Difference is, anybody can easily grow enough to recreationally use and never pay Uncle Sam a dime so there's just no incentive to legalize. Couple that with the fact that unlike booze, you can't test for use at that exact timeframe because it stays in your system for up to 30 days, and you can't keep people from getting stoned and driving which even the pot smokers if they were honest should agree is probably not what we want as a society any more than DUI.

All that said, I haven't smoked in 15-20 years and have no plans to start. I'm successful and have a family, both of which also keep me from drinking and driving or drinking often at all for that matter. Now, if it were legal, and I could do it safely at my home with no kids around or just socializing with friends like I would with a beer.... At least I know i wouldn't have a hangover tomorrow...

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 I wonder if they had an Easter egg hunt at their 420 celebration today?? 80,000 stoned people looking for colorful eggs sounds like it would be fun to watch... DIRTY HIPPIES.....

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I hate hippies!

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