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Paying $$$ for info on a muskrat buyer

by Browtine Skulls & Fur , Posted to Fishing Buddy on 12/12/2011 12:38 PM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
Browtine Skulls & Fur

Joined: 01/10/2007
Location: ND
this recurring "rumor" is getting a little old and I'm dead set on uncovering it.  I have been told time and time again that there is a buyer out there (in south Dakota) who is paying 8-10 bucks per muskrat.  Now, talking to other buyers and shippers in the state, I do believe this rumor is complete BS and honestly don't know where it got started as this guy would be losing his a$$ paying that much for rats.  In addition, if someone were paying this, he'd be getting business from every buyer, trapper, etc... within a 5 state area including myself as I don't even come close to averaging that.  I have however, heard first count reports of people actually getting this kind of money, however, when it came time to tell me who and where, they "forgot."  So I am offering up a reward.  I want this guy's name and phone number, and preferably where he's based out of.  All info will be held confidential including who gave me the information, should you ask it.  Once I call, verify, sell him some rats and make what people say I "should" be making (8-10 averages), the person who gave me his name and number will be paid $300 (yes that is not a typo, three hundred dollars).  If I get this information within 24 hours of me posting this then I'll up it to $400.  This offer will only be valid until Saturday Dec 17th and I can and will put this in writing upon request.  If I hear nothing then I'm going to assume that this buyer doesn't exist.  Call or email me. (701-307-0170) (brownsheep11@hotmail.com)  thanks.

Re: Paying $$$ for info on a muskrat buyer
by j.k on 12/12/2011 12:41 PM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
j.k
Joined: 09/30/2005
Location: ND
If its too good to be true, it probably......... nevermind.

U should make a wanted poster.

This is kind of like the hunt for Bigfoot.
"What is it about a set of antlers that makes everybody so stupid?"
“My goal in life is to be the kind of person my dog already thinks I am.”
Re: Paying $$$ for info on a muskrat buyer
by Enslow on 12/12/2011 12:48 PM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
Enslow
Joined: 02/13/2006
Location: ND
Im sure for that price they are skinned and stretched.  I heard the same thing but can't remember the name either of the buyer.  It sounded like some guy from a fur buying association or something like that was buying them.
Re: Paying $$$ for info on a muskrat buyer
by Captain Ahab on 12/12/2011 2:10 PM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
Captain Ahab
Joined: 12/01/2008
Location: ND
I just sold a bunch to him for $12.50 a piece and I just can't remember his name.  Mine were 50% Albino though.

"Diligence is the mother of good luck."
Benjamin Franklin
Re: Paying $$$ for info on a muskrat buyer
by Enslow on 12/12/2011 2:19 PM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
Enslow
Joined: 02/13/2006
Location: ND
Captain Ahab Said:
I just sold a bunch to him for $12.50 a piece and I just can't remember his name.  Mine were 50% Albino though.

$12.50?  Thats a good price.  You lucky dog you
Re: Paying $$$ for info on a muskrat buyer
by kobear on 12/12/2011 2:31 PM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
kobear
Joined: 02/15/2007
Location: MN
Tough to get $8-10 averages from a Country Buyer. Especially with Dakota rats, coarse brown fur and thin leather so they say. You could hit $8-10 on individual rats MAYBE.

Groenwold Fur & Wool Co http://www.gfwco.com comes around to SD and they pay up to $10 for Michigan and Wisconsin rats all the time. Again those are NOT Dakota rats but larger heavier silkier and better colored muskrats. http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2863626/Rat.html#Post2863626

My best this year out of three country buyers was some that got $9, they were XXL rats caught in the first week of Dec. really good winter shearable with good color, almost black guard hairs with clear underfur. And the buyer included color in the grade, most do not anymore.
The day before I sold 45 "narrow larges" for almost $6 average, these were the smallest 20% of rats I caught since Nov 18th. I stretched them on small wood boards so they come out as "Western Larges" 5 7/8" wide at the butt and over 14" long.

Recently I sold to

Schaleben Fur Co

(218) 847-3178

28428 Us Highway 10
Detroit Lakes, MN 56501

If you need to check on that $9 rat.

Even there they recommended I ship the worst of my catch to auction as the prices there couldn't be beat last year. But if the catch is big this year we could see the highest prices paid by Country Buyers and my shipped goods could get held over till next year and then sell for a $2 average. Everyone always quotes last years prices, well that was last year!
Re: Paying $$$ for info on a muskrat buyer
by kobear on 12/12/2011 2:38 PM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
kobear
Joined: 02/15/2007
Location: MN
I could drive to Wisconsin and go for the $10 sales, but any good fur grader would know I didn't have Wisconsin rats cause I bump up towards the RR valley.

http://www.nafa.ca/trapper/Resources/TechManual/NAFA_TechManual_2009_Musquash.pdf

Has Great info to help put Your fur in perspective. Remember a short harvest makes ordinary quality fur worth much more than it normally would bring.
Re: Paying $$$ for info on a muskrat buyer
by ktent1 on 12/12/2011 3:38 PM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
ktent1
Joined: 11/23/2011
Location: nd
Why are you so worried about other buyers?   No wonder you can afford to pay for info since you pay so little for furs you "buy".  Pay a fair price and you won't have to worry.
Re: Paying $$$ for info on a muskrat buyer
by MathewsZman on 12/12/2011 3:39 PM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
MathewsZman
Joined: 08/02/2010
Location: SD
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Re: Paying $$$ for info on a muskrat buyer
by Colt on 12/12/2011 4:04 PM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
Colt
Joined: 10/27/2010
Location: ND
Zman, you need a second job.
Re: Paying $$$ for info on a muskrat buyer
by Rooster22 on 12/12/2011 4:30 PM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
Rooster22
Joined: 07/27/2009
Location: ND
ktent1 Said:
Why are you so worried about other buyers?   No wonder you can afford to pay for info since you pay so little for furs you "buy".  Pay a fair price and you won't have to worry.
im guessing he paid people what they were fairly worth for rats around here.  But if he can make a trip to SD and resell them for double his money on an afternoon trip ....why wouldnt he?!?
Re: Paying $$$ for info on a muskrat buyer
by KurtR on 12/12/2011 4:37 PM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
KurtR
Joined: 04/16/2007
Location: SD
ktent1 Said:
Why are you so worried about other buyers?   No wonder you can afford to pay for info since you pay so little for furs you "buy".  Pay a fair price and you won't have to worry.


So what is a fair price
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Re: Paying $$$ for info on a muskrat buyer
by Hardwaterman on 12/12/2011 5:30 PM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
Hardwaterman
Joined: 11/06/2002
Location: ND
Kids back home sold rats they caught recently unskinned in Aberdeen for $5.00 a piece. Never thought to ask where since I do not trap them. Much more fun to run a 55gr hollow point through them!
In my lifetime I have seen fence row to fence row farming and the return of CRP and game to the landscape.Now we face again the prosepect of fence row to fence row again! Sportsman are our own worst enemy in that we fail to look forward and focus to much on the now!
Re: Paying $$$ for info on a muskrat buyer
by Little Elvis on 12/12/2011 7:00 PM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
Little Elvis
Joined: 12/21/2003
Location: ND
Browtine Skulls & Fur Said:
this recurring "rumor" is getting a little old and I'm dead set on uncovering it.  I have been told time and time again that there is a buyer out there (in south Dakota) who is paying 8-10 bucks per muskrat.  Now, talking to other buyers and shippers in the state, I do believe this rumor is complete BS and honestly don't know where it got started as this guy would be losing his a$$ paying that much for rats.  In addition, if someone were paying this, he'd be getting business from every buyer, trapper, etc... within a 5 state area including myself as I don't even come close to averaging that.  I have however, heard first count reports of people actually getting this kind of money, however, when it came time to tell me who and where, they "forgot."  So I am offering up a reward.  I want this guy's name and phone number, and preferably where he's based out of.  All info will be held confidential including who gave me the information, should you ask it.  Once I call, verify, sell him some rats and make what people say I "should" be making (8-10 averages), the person who gave me his name and number will be paid $300 (yes that is not a typo, three hundred dollars).  If I get this information within 24 hours of me posting this then I'll up it to $400.  This offer will only be valid until Saturday Dec 17th and I can and will put this in writing upon request.  If I hear nothing then I'm going to assume that this buyer doesn't exist.  Call or email me. (701-307-0170) (brownsheep11@hotmail.com)  thanks.
I know who it is but why would I tell you...400 bucks...yank yank...do your own dirty work
Re: Paying $$$ for info on a muskrat buyer
by Geothermal on 12/12/2011 7:23 PM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
Geothermal
Joined: 07/14/2009
Location: ND
Elvis,   When will he be coming back  to ND ?       Last time he called the night before and said he would not be able make it up this way because he had  a full load by the time he got out of Pembina.   
Re: Paying $$$ for info on a muskrat buyer
by barebackjack on 12/12/2011 7:28 PM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
barebackjack
Joined: 09/26/2010
Location: ND
 $8-$10 for put up 'rats wouldnt be to far fetched, even for a "country" buyer, especially considering how strong they finished last spring, and current market forecasts.

Maybe anticipating a strong spring market and trying to secure a large stockpile, or perhaps he's on a contract  with someone for xxxx number of em.
Re: Paying $$$ for info on a muskrat buyer
by Trapper62 on 12/12/2011 9:18 PM | Reply #16 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
Trapper62
Joined: 02/19/2003
Location: ND
Not sure if country buyers can participate but maybe he is attempting to fill a lot for one of the fur houses to fill a private treaty? 

Don't know who he/she is but they may just be a step ahead of the other country buyers around.  Fur has done some crazy things over the past 35 years so these prices really are not suprising.  And yes, Wisconsin has some of the best rats around!

 

January 13, 2010

NAFA Holds First Ever Private Treaty Internet Sale

NAFA’s Private Treaty Internet Sale was met with strong support from the buying community, producing price increases for all Wild Fur varieties offered. China was the dominant buyer with the highlight of the sale being our offering of 63,633 Muskrats which sold 100% at advancing prices compared to the auction held a few days earlier.

When we cancelled our January auction due to insignificant quantities and the low expected buyer attendance, especially from China, we realized this was a perfect opportunity to try a new method of selling. We all know that the price of Ranch Mink has risen dramatically and that an article like Muskrat tends to follow the same price pattern. Therefore, we decided to put together a Private Treaty catalogue and allow buyers to bid on this catalogue over a three-day period. The bidding could be done by fax, email, online through our website or in person. Due to the consistency of our assortments and our descriptions from sale to sale, buyers could bid online with confidence and be assured of the quality of their purchases.

This high tech method of selling allowed NAFA to attract bids from buyers all over the world. We believe we are the only marketing company set up to sell Wild Fur in this cutting edge way. Although others may be critical of our decision to cancel the January Sale, this new and innovative method of selling allowed buyers from all over the world, who would not have attended this sale due to the limited quantities, to submit bids and purchase merchandise.

We are pleased to advise that this internet Private Treaty offering was very well received by the buyers and resulted in excellent demand and clearance, particularly for Muskrat, which sold 100% at a Sect. I average of $7.62.
Re: Paying $$$ for info on a muskrat buyer
by Allen on 12/12/2011 9:33 PM | Reply #17 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
Allen
Joined: 01/09/2002
Location: ND
Damn...being a fur buyer seems to be about as well thought of as the local meth dealer. Tuff crowd...
“Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.” ~ Mark Twain
Re: Paying $$$ for info on a muskrat buyer
by marksman on 12/12/2011 9:41 PM | Reply #18 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
marksman
Joined: 11/21/2005
Location: ND
someone is full of it the rats I sold run6.75 average and that was for 55 of them just stretched and not skinned
looped the nose and hung a 2x6 with loops evey5 inches and just let them hang until frozen. everything was trapped

The best democrat platform a Republican can stand on it a manure pile

drug test everyone on welfare

have an open season on molesters
Re: Paying $$$ for info on a muskrat buyer
by Geothermal on 12/12/2011 9:54 PM | Reply #19 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
Geothermal
Joined: 07/14/2009
Location: ND
marksman Said:
someone is full of it the rats I sold run6.75 average and that was for 55 of them just stretched and not skinned
looped the nose and hung a 2x6 with loops evey5 inches and just let them hang until frozen. everything was trapped

Boy did you get took
Re: Paying $$$ for info on a muskrat buyer
by barebackjack on 12/12/2011 10:02 PM | Reply #20 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
barebackjack
Joined: 09/26/2010
Location: ND
 I wanna know how you stretch a critter without skinning it?
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Posted By: Browtine Skulls & Fur
Posted On: 12/12/2011 12:38 PM
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