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You just can't make this s@#* up.

Colorado Democrat fires gay aide allegedly for visiting Republican office

  • Tyler Drum was allegedly fired after visiting the office of a fellow aide, a Republican

  • When he was fired, he was only told that Democrat leadership was uncomfortable with him befriending a Republican

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 mental illness

 

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Yes, there is mental illness here in droves.  First of Bonham: the reporter is championed by Fox news and other ill ultra right wing factions.  How silly do you have to be to think this is all of the story? The possibilities are endless to the real story.  Perhaps the r and D aide had been called in by Larry Craig, the former bathroom boy and republican senator from Idaho who propositioned the undercover agent for sex in the minneapolis airport bathroom and things were terminated so the republican party wouldn't be a continued embarrassment..     Too bad Paul Harvey isn't around so we could hear the rest of the story.  Zoggy-I suggest you get your nose to the turf and get the real uncut story. 
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Tolerance is not a virtue, it's a lack of principles associated with any given social perversion.  Those who want to establish a social norm for morals often have little or non themselves.  The democrat party will continue to have a larger and larger tent as long as we keep getting more and more willing to rob the working stiff along with more and more perverts.

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I see fishmahn's parents got the internet working again......

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The worst people in our society want us to be tolerant. 

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Fish, click on the link and there is indeed a couple of opportunities to learn a it more.

Do you ever get tired of making excuses for the liberal ideology?

As you seem unable to substantiate your claims regarding global warming despite your condescending assumption of superior intellect, perhaps you can move on to something such as explaining to us less fortunate in the intellect dept. how this health care debacle is good for this nation.

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I found the following on the web, it really puts my Dad's generation into perspective.

 

"During the 3-1/2 years of World War 2 that started with the Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor in December 1941 and ended with the Surrender of Germany and Japan in 1945, the U.S. produced; 22 aircraft carriers, 8 battleships, 48 cruisers, 349 destroyers, 420 destroyer escorts, 203 submarines, 34 million tons of merchant ships, 100,000 fighter aircraft, 98,000 bombers, 24,000 transport aircraft, 58,000 training aircraft, 93,000 tanks, 257,000 artillery pieces, 105,000 mortars, 3,000,000 machine guns, and 2,500,000 military trucks.


We put 16.1 million men in uniform in the various armed services, invaded Africa, invaded Sicily and Italy, won the battle for the Atlantic, planned and executed D-Day, marched across the Pacific and Europe, developed the atomic bomb and ultimately conquered Japan and Germany.


It's worth noting, that during the almost exact amount of time, the Obama administration couldn't build a functioning web site."

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You just can't make this s@#* up.

Colorado Democrat fires gay aide allegedly for visiting Republican office

  • Tyler Drum was allegedly fired after visiting the office of a fellow aide, a Republican

  • When he was fired, he was only told that Democrat leadership was uncomfortable with him befriending a Republican

This doesn'et suprise me in the least. Liberalism is truly a mental illness. Not so much for the people benefitting from it like the jobless, welfare recipients, lazy, illegal immigrants. I can see why they support a nanny state, but the people that have me scratching my head are the people that are out there making a living on their own, people with small buisnesses, people that are actually working for their money. Why they would ever support this clown makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever.

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 I can see why they support a nanny state, but the people that have me scratching my head are the people that are out there making a living on their own, people with small buisnesses, people that are actually working for their money. Why they would ever support this clown makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever.

Because they want support from those who will accept anything.  They don't want to be scolded for bending six year old little Bobby over the log.  I'm sure you think I am joking, but look up NAMBLA.   I think for at least a year or two I can still get away with not tolerating pedophile behavior.  

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 I can see why they support a nanny state, but the people that have me scratching my head are the people that are out there making a living on their own, people with small buisnesses, people that are actually working for their money. Why they would ever support this clown makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever.

Because they want support from those who will accept anything.  They don't want to be scolded for bending six year old little Bobby over the log.  I'm sure you think I am joking, but look up NAMBLA.   I think for at least a year or two I can still get away with not tolerating pedophile behavior.  

yes pedophelia is def. on the agenda now that gay marriage is legal in a ton of states.  

 

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 I can see why they support a nanny state, but the people that have me scratching my head are the people that are out there making a living on their own, people with small buisnesses, people that are actually working for their money. Why they would ever support this clown makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever.

Because they want support from those who will accept anything.  They don't want to be scolded for bending six year old little Bobby over the log.  I'm sure you think I am joking, but look up NAMBLA.   I think for at least a year or two I can still get away with not tolerating pedophile behavior.  

yes pedophelia is def. on the agenda now that gay marriage is legal in a ton of states.  

Yeah, I think Phil Robertson's all for it isn't he?

Genuine conservatism promotes cautious and prudent change, respect for tradition, stewardship, humility, responsibility and fact-based decision making. It is concerned with both individual and societal well-being. With regard to government, conservatism favors a government that is lean, efficient and effective -- not impotent.

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 I would guess not.  I do wonder though how he feels about a judge recently ruling polygamy is legal

 

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I give money to the North Dakota Family Alliance and know members here in Jamestown who keep very close track of these things.  There are groups waiting for gay marriage to be passed so they can push their agenda.  Already there are groups of ten women who want to marry twelve guys.  Maybe two of the guys are gay.  We live in a world that is in a fast downward slide.

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I give money to the North Dakota Family Alliance and know members here in Jamestown who keep very close track of these things.  There are groups waiting for gay marriage to be passed so they can push their agenda.  Already there are groups of ten women who want to marry twelve guys.  Maybe two of the guys are gay.  We live in a world that is in a fast downward slide.

The worst part of all this is all these people moving into this state are bringing their fudged up ideals with them. The disease(liberalism) is spreading and will not be cured.

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Yes, there is mental illness here in droves.  First of Bonham: the reporter is championed by Fox news and other ill ultra right wing factions.  How silly do you have to be to think this is all of the story? The possibilities are endless to the real story.  Perhaps the r and D aide had been called in by Larry Craig, the former bathroom boy and republican senator from Idaho who propositioned the undercover agent for sex in the minneapolis airport bathroom and things were terminated so the republican party wouldn't be a continued embarrassment..     Too bad Paul Harvey isn't around so we could hear the rest of the story.  Zoggy-I suggest you get your nose to the turf and get the real uncut story. 

I'm sure we will here "the rest of the story" on msnbc.

 

 

 

 

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Plainsman said: Because they want support from those who will accept anything. They don't want to be scolded for bending six year old little Bobby over the log. I'm sure you think I am joking, but look up NAMBLA. I think for at least a year or two I can still get away with not tolerating pedophile behavior"

I'm sorry, but if you want to "not tolerate" pedophile behavior...overwhelming evidence will show that the Christian club you support so much is guilty of way more gay pedophilia than even the advertised pedophile's club. I'm not defending NAMBLA, I'm just pointing out a big black pot calling a big black kettle "black".

Now, back on point, was the guy fired for being gay, black, or republican-curious? or was he just a douchebag claiming discrimination for one of the three reasons? Because he actually got fired for being late every day. Yet its enough to get the extremist turds all fired up to start screaming pedophile, beastiality, and tolerance on a fishing & hunting forum

and for the 1,000th time....can someone explain to me how we have to "TOLERATE" gay people, then explain to me how we would tolerate them any differently if the consenting gay adults were married?

and this is where GST says "IT'S INCREMENTALISM!!!"....yes GST, we know everything happens in increments....can you maybe elaborate beyond the 2 lawyers on the whole planet of 7 billion people you found that happen to be pedophiles and support banging little boys that still have ZERO connection to any gay people?

and please remember, there is a difference between tolerating an asshole that happens to be gay, and someone you have to tolerate because he/she is gay.

if you're serious about putting a stop to pedophilia...vote to ban catholic churches, gay people have nothing to do with this, yet the biggest/most/worst pedo cases and cover ups in history belong to....NOT GAY PEOPLE

GST!...PLAINSMAN!...EYEXER! I'm calling on you guys to think and research, use the scientific method to gather evidence, build a valid argument, use facts and data that can't be so easily refuted, discredited, and debunked....in other words, can you guys come up with some better anti gay people banter that's better than pedophilia and beastiality.

how about a simple "I think a dude plowin another dudes dirt hole is gross"....that would actually be a more valid, and credible argument to support your opinions...and I would have to agree with you to an extent...but still more credible than the whole pedophilia argument you guys keep bringing up.

I won't respond to anything but a semi-intelligent (or at least funny) responses.

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And before you guys start the "he hates Christian people" banter let me just discredit that with a simple example.

GST heard me say "I hate cancer"
GST says: "MSA hates people with cancer"

so please keep that in mind before thinking our differences in religion somehow makes one side of the argument any more credible. in fact, to help your side out, I would avoid any mention of participation in the catholic church when it comes to discussions about pedophilia.

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 I know you hate the Catholic church MSA and there is nothing I can say or do to change that. The  pedophilia and cover up of the act is absolutely despicable, no argument from me. You can't deny, however, all the good the church has done. It even saved modern science at one time. The mistakes of a few (many) individuals should not reflect them all. 

Is it impious to weigh goose music and art in the same scales? I think not, because the true hunter is merely a noncreative artist. Who painted the first picture on a bone in the caves of France? A hunter. Who alone in our modern life so thrills to the sight of living beauty that he will endure hunger and thirst and cold to feed his eye upon it? The hunter. Who wrote the great hunter's poem about the sheer wonder of the wind, the hail, and the snow, the stars, the lightnings, and the clouds, the lion, the deer, and the wild goat, the raven, the hawk, and the eagle, and above all the eulogy to the horse? Job, one of the great dramatic artists of all time. Poets sing and hunters scale the mountains primarily for one and the same reason--the thrill of beauty. Critics write and hunters outwit their game primarily for one and the same reason--to reduce that beauty to possession. The differences are largely matters of degree, consciousness, and that sly arbiter of the classification of human activities, language. If, then, we can live without goose music, we may as well do away with stars, or sunsets, or Iliads. But the point is we would be fools to do away with any of them. 

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Plainsman said: Because they want support from those who will accept anything. They don't want to be scolded for bending six year old little Bobby over the log. I'm sure you think I am joking, but look up NAMBLA. I think for at least a year or two I can still get away with not tolerating pedophile behavior"

I'm sorry, but if you want to "not tolerate" pedophile behavior...overwhelming evidence will show that the Christian club you support so much is guilty of way more gay pedophilia than even the advertised pedophile's club. I'm not defending NAMBLA, I'm just pointing out a big black pot calling a big black kettle "black".

Now, back on point, was the guy fired for being gay, black, or republican-curious? or was he just a douchebag claiming discrimination for one of the three reasons? Because he actually got fired for being late every day. Yet its enough to get the extremist turds all fired up to start screaming pedophile, beastiality, and tolerance on a fishing & hunting forum

and for the 1,000th time....can someone explain to me how we have to "TOLERATE" gay people, then explain to me how we would tolerate them any differently if the consenting gay adults were married?

and this is where GST says "IT'S INCREMENTALISM!!!"....yes GST, we know everything happens in increments....can you maybe elaborate beyond the 2 lawyers on the whole planet of 7 billion people you found that happen to be pedophiles and support banging little boys that still have ZERO connection to any gay people?

and please remember, there is a difference between tolerating an asshole that happens to be gay, and someone you have to tolerate because he/she is gay.

if you're serious about putting a stop to pedophilia...vote to ban catholic churches, gay people have nothing to do with this, yet the biggest/most/worst pedo cases and cover ups in history belong to....NOT GAY PEOPLE

GST!...PLAINSMAN!...EYEXER! I'm calling on you guys to think and research, use the scientific method to gather evidence, build a valid argument, use facts and data that can't be so easily refuted, discredited, and debunked....in other words, can you guys come up with some better anti gay people banter that's better than pedophilia and beastiality.

how about a simple "I think a dude plowin another dudes dirt hole is gross"....that would actually be a more valid, and credible argument to support your opinions...and I would have to agree with you to an extent...but still more credible than the whole pedophilia argument you guys keep bringing up.

I won't respond to anything but a semi-intelligent (or at least funny) responses.

I didn't bring religion into this discussion.  I simply pointed out there is a movement to make pedophilia legal and it isn't coming from the catholic church.  so how do you feel about polygamy which now appears to be legal?

 

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Meelosh, I don't hate the catholic church one bit...to be honest the catholic church (aside from all the sex abuse cover ups)agrees with many of my views on both political and scientific topics....but that doesn't stop me from pointing out and laughing at the rampant pedophilia within it, every time some self proclaimed "catholic" equates gay marriage to pedophilia.

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eyexer to answer your question all religion aside....I have nothing against consenting adults involved in polygamy. if the man or woman has multiple spouses that are all in agreement with the "marriage" it makes no difference to me...except of course some miscellaneous tax credit loopholes I don't know about that should be adjusted and fixed should polygamy ever become legal. I don't care about other tribes of different cultures that practiced polygamy for thousands of years, why the hell should I care if "americans" do it?

now, bring religion into the equation....yes, I'm against Mormon fundamentalists marrying 12 year old girls and fhakajuju elders marrying multiple children etc etc....but here we are discussing pedophiles again....so whats the real question....consenting adults marrying eachother, or adults marrying kids?

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Now meelosh....the real question is...did all that good come from "the church" or from people who went to that church.

Look at donation and aid money totals from the Vatican etc. and compare them to the donations and aid money sent by even the poorest countries in the world to disaster and tragedy stricken places on earth. compare that to the donator's assets & worth, then tell me how the catholic church does more good than an average 3rd rate country

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now, bring religion into the equation....yes, I'm against Mormon fundamentalists marrying 12 year old girls and fhakajuju elders marrying multiple children etc etc....but here we are discussing pedophiles again....so whats the real question....consenting adults marrying eachother, or adults marrying kids?

Based upon what? There are a number of cultures/beliefs that allow this. Why should you be allowed to push your beliefs unto others? Who gets to determine the age of consent? It's an awfully slippery slope don't you think?

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valid point....so WHO is pushing their beliefs onto you? I don't recall a gay dude showing up at my doorstep asking if I'm willing to accept Bruce into my ass....so what part of your life, or mine has to change? I have never once in my life had a gay person ever try to tell me that their preferences or way of life were better than mine or that I had to practice as they did.

some cultures eat dogs...I don't want to eat dogs, but at the same time I don't care if they do. but all of the sudden if it's gay marriage that means everyone is force to eat cocker spaniel for supper

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And when has any gay person, group, or organization ever discussed or disputed age of consent? here again the anti-gay side keeps bringing pedophilia and child molestation into the argument.

I don't know Old Jake...what is the age of consent? it was never an issue till you brought it up. well, never an issue with the gay community. I guess a lot of churches raise that consentual age topic a lot.

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And before you guys start the "he hates Christian people" banter let me just discredit that with a simple example.

GST heard me say "I hate cancer"
GST says: "MSA hates people with cancer"

so please keep that in mind before thinking our differences in religion somehow makes one side of the argument any more credible. in fact, to help your side out, I would avoid any mention of participation in the catholic church when it comes to discussions about pedophilia.

LMAO! Sorry that was funny, carry on gents

 

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Anyone ever catch Multi-Sexual back in a cove with his bubble machine and disco ball in full regalia?  BTW, we're still missing one defender of the queer.

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You too svnmag....Lets say I wan't come over to the anti-gay side of the room. and it's your job to provide a semi-intelligent argument that just might convince me to do so....can you do better than lame 70s disco hits?

could you answer very simple questions like how do gay people force their beliefs on me? How does being gay, or married and gay a connection to promote pedophilia? and how is gay contagious and what steps should I take to avoid becoming gay?

For the record, the beegees are way "gayer" than kool n the gang

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eyexer to answer your question all religion aside....I have nothing against consenting adults involved in polygamy. if the man or woman has multiple spouses that are all in agreement with the "marriage" it makes no difference to me...except of course some miscellaneous tax credit loopholes I don't know about that should be adjusted and fixed should polygamy ever become legal. I don't care about other tribes of different cultures that practiced polygamy for thousands of years, why the hell should I care if "americans" do it?

now, bring religion into the equation....yes, I'm against Mormon fundamentalists marrying 12 year old girls and fhakajuju elders marrying multiple children etc etc....but here we are discussing pedophiles again....so whats the real question....consenting adults marrying eachother, or adults marrying kids?

polygamy is legal now in the state the judge ruled.  At least until the appeals court changes that if they do.  Why would we care if 12 year old girls get married?  How does that affect any of us in any way?  To me it's no different than gay marriage in regard to how it affects any of us.

 

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Now meelosh....the real question is...did all that good come from "the church" or from people who went to that church.

Both, to be honest.

Is it impious to weigh goose music and art in the same scales? I think not, because the true hunter is merely a noncreative artist. Who painted the first picture on a bone in the caves of France? A hunter. Who alone in our modern life so thrills to the sight of living beauty that he will endure hunger and thirst and cold to feed his eye upon it? The hunter. Who wrote the great hunter's poem about the sheer wonder of the wind, the hail, and the snow, the stars, the lightnings, and the clouds, the lion, the deer, and the wild goat, the raven, the hawk, and the eagle, and above all the eulogy to the horse? Job, one of the great dramatic artists of all time. Poets sing and hunters scale the mountains primarily for one and the same reason--the thrill of beauty. Critics write and hunters outwit their game primarily for one and the same reason--to reduce that beauty to possession. The differences are largely matters of degree, consciousness, and that sly arbiter of the classification of human activities, language. If, then, we can live without goose music, we may as well do away with stars, or sunsets, or Iliads. But the point is we would be fools to do away with any of them. 

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 yes eye, we know you think gay=pedophile, but can you show and explain a link between the two.  At least show a better correlation of gay to pedophile than catholic church to pedophilia. 

Where did this gay/pedo association come from?

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 yes eye, we know you think gay=pedophile, but can you show and explain a link between the two.  At least show a better correlation of gay to pedophile than catholic church to pedophilia. 

Where did this gay/pedo association come from?

I don't think gay=pedophile.  My point is that those of us opposed to gay marriage warned that making that legal would fast track legalization of pedophilia and polygamy but pro gay's laughed and said we were nuts.  Well we are there already.  Polygamy legal and the ground work for pedophilia being normalized is well underway.

 

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Now meelosh....the real question is...did all that good come from "the church" or from people who went to that church.

Look at donation and aid money totals from the Vatican etc. and compare them to the donations and aid money sent by even the poorest countries in the world to disaster and tragedy stricken places on earth. compare that to the donator's assets & worth, then tell me how the catholic church does more good than an average 3rd rate country

Catholic hospitals serve one in six patients in the United States

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Catholic health care facilities form the largest not-for-profit health service sector in the United States, caring for nearly one-sixth of all U.S. hospital patients each year.

The 620 Catholic hospitals across the country make up 12.4 percent of the nation’s 5,010 community hospitals.

They provide 15 percent of the hospital beds and in 2008 accounted for more than 5.6 million -- 15.8 percent -- of the 35.8 million patients admitted to those hospitals that year.

In addition to inpatient hospital stays, Catholic hospitals handled more than 98 million outpatient visits, 15.7 percent of the national total.

They employ about 540,000 full-time workers and 240,000 part-time workers.

 

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There are more than 1,400 additional U.S. Catholic long-term and other health care facilities, with services ranging from adult assisted living residences and hospice care to outpatient clinics, home health care and skilled nursing.

When those facilities are counted, there is an active, institutional Catholic health care presence in all 50 states and the District of Columbia, including the six states -- Hawaii, New Mexico, North Carolina, Utah, Vermont and Wyoming -- that have no Catholic hospital.

Catholic hospitals handle more than 30 percent of all admissions in Alaska, Iowa, Oregon, South Dakota and Wisconsin. They handle between 20 and 30 percent of admissions in another 17 states, mainly across the Midwest and Northwest.

The Catholic Health Association, using data from the American Hospital Association, reported earlier this year that Catholic hospitals were ahead of other hospitals in a wide range of public health and specialty services traditionally considered “unprofitable.”

These included the percentage of Catholic hospitals offering alcohol and drug abuse treatment, birthing rooms, breast cancer screening, child and adolescent psychiatric services, child wellness programs, community outreach, crisis prevention, dental services, geriatric services, HIV/AIDS services, neonatal intensive care units, nutrition programs, obstetrics, pain management programs, and various social work services.

In these and several other areas, other not-for-profit hospitals lagged just slightly behind Catholic hospitals. Hospitals owned by state or local governments consistently came in third, and investor-owned for-profit hospitals came in fourth -- in many cases a distant fourth.

Breast cancer screening and mammogram services, for example, were offered by more than three-fourths of Catholic and other nonprofit hospitals, by two-thirds of government-owned facilities and by only two-fifths of the for-profits.

In three of the areas -- alcohol/drug abuse treatment, psychiatric services for children and adolescents, and teen outreach -- 20 percent or more of Catholic hospitals had programs, compared to 15-17 percent of other nonprofits, 10 percent or fewer of government-owned hospitals, and only 2-3 percent of the for-profit institutions.

In addition to all of this guess what the atheist has donated to the good of our society, or the muslim, or the KKK, or the black panthers, or our own government for that matter.

 

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yet the biggest/most/worst pedo cases and cover ups in history belong to....NOT GAY PEOPLE

HInt, hint, it wasn't little girls the priests were molesting.   I think some guy who was not attracted to women decided he could put up with not being married.  Later he found out he still had a sex drive, but it was for the opposite sex.  Hmmm I think that means homosexual. 

I unlike you don't think it was the religion that caused it rather it comes down to the person trying to live a life he could not.  We know you hate religion MSA, but it's not the fault of everything.  Also, you always fail to understand we are not better than anyone else, it's just that we are repentant.  I feel guilty for doing things you evidently would not think twice about. 

I'm sorry, but if you want to "not tolerate" pedophile behavior...overwhelming evidence will show that the Christian club you support so much is guilty of way more gay pedophilia than even the advertised pedophile's club.

That has to be the dumbest thing I have heard.

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Great Post!  Thanks, JohnR

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I'm not really here to argue anything today, but I will counter with this. For that same accusation, there's this:

ME: I don't accept or support homosexual behavior.
PUBLIC: THIS GUY HATES GAYS.

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And before you guys start the "he hates Christian people" banter let me just discredit that with a simple example.

GST heard me say "I hate cancer"
GST says: "MSA hates people with cancer"

so please keep that in mind before thinking our differences in religion somehow makes one side of the argument any more credible. in fact, to help your side out, I would avoid any mention of participation in the catholic church when it comes to discussions about pedophilia.



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if you're serious about putting a stop to pedophilia...vote to ban catholic churches, gay people have nothing to do with this

Say what? Wow, I always thought gay men felt social pressure not to be gay, so they joined the church "to avoid sin", then found the youngsters in their charge easily coerced into gay activities - too easily corrupted. So much so that the gay guy's sexual urges win over in the battle of wills.

A gay guy has urges just like straight guy... I always thought that after a few yearsthat the alter boy eventually looked like an easy target of opportunity to "secretly" be the recipient of the gay guy's uber-pent up sexual urges.

The reason that more gay guys abuse kids in that position is that the heterosexual guys who had "the calling" to become priests were less likely to be in the priesthood to "hide" their heterosexualness - they had other reasons - some virtuous - some not.

Thus heteros are inherently a lower risk population to fall off the sex wagon and abuse kids under their "powerful" position... they inherently came there to serve for mostly non-sexual rational and thus are simply less risky around kids.

I had no idea it was the Catholic churches themselves that cause the gay guys to molest young boys. In that case - hell yes - these Catholic churches need to go!

 

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No matter how you shape it MSA a man that is plugging lil boys is gay....

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No matter how you shape it MSA a man that is plugging lil boys is gay....

wrong - he's a catholic church

 

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reminds me of....

“Interviewer (who happened to have just one leg): 'So Frank, you have long hair. Does that make you a woman?'

Frank Zappa: 'You have a wooden leg. Does that make you a table?”

Frank Zappa

 

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No matter how you shape it MSA a man that is plugging lil boys is gay....

I agree, so what your saying is all gay men want to plug little boys?  where is this correlation between the gay community and the stigma of pedophilia?

sex with a minor is sex with a minor, wether its man on boy or man on girl or woman on boy, or woman on girl....its still pedophilia.

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buckmaster81 Said:
No matter how you shape it MSA a man that is plugging lil boys is gay....

I agree, so what your saying is all gay men want to plug little boys?  where is this correlation between the gay community and the stigma of pedophilia?

sex with a minor is sex with a minor, wether its man on boy or man on girl or woman on boy, or woman on girl....its still pedophilia.

No I didn't say that but you read whatever you want to read.... Whatever makes you feel superior.

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Meelosh, I don't hate the catholic church one bit...to be honest the catholic church (aside from all the sex abuse cover ups)agrees with many of my views on both political and scientific topics....but that doesn't stop me from pointing out and laughing at the rampant pedophilia within it, every time some self proclaimed "catholic" equates gay marriage to pedophilia.

multi, to most with any sort of perception, it is clear you do "hate" religion.
For what reason is up to speculation.

And multi please do not join the ranks of those claiming I have said things I simply have not. It only discredits what you may say.

For the record, I do not have an issue with two gay people being granted the same "rights" as two heterosexual people (man and woman) are given thru marriage relating to rights of survivorship ect.
 
There are any number of ways this can be done thru a civil union granting them the very thing they are demanding.

It is simply my ideal that the actual term and classification of "marriage" be reserved for those that have the plumbing to perpetuate the species. (and please do not try and insult an intelligent discussion by bringing up examples of someone that can not have children because of a medical condition ect, I would think you would be intelligent enough to discuss this past that)

But yet it is a vocal, radical segment of the gay community that this "civil union" that would grant them every right a marriage does outside of title that will not rest until that title is also granted.

So what then is this really about multi?

It is not about achieving "rights" for this vocal segment of the homosexual community, it is about forcing their views and acceptance onto others no different than the people they try to condemn for doing the same when that group suggests marriage is between a man and a woman.

Don't be so foolish and biased as to deny that simple truth.

YOU reserve the right to deem YOURSELF what YOU will tolerate when you do not accept a 40 year old man marrying a 13 year old girl as being "right".

Yet you condemn others for reserving the right to not accept two men "marrying" each other.

If you can not see the hypocrisy in that position, you are no where near as perceptive as you might believe yourself to be.

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 yes eye, we know you think gay=pedophile, but can you show and explain a link between the two.  At least show a better correlation of gay to pedophile than catholic church to pedophilia. 

Where did this gay/pedo association come from?

Where has anyone said gay=pedophile??

They are two completely separate things multi.

YOU simply do not want to accept that YOU draw the line somewhere and yet condemn others for the line they draw so you try to make claims people have taken a position they have not.

YOU do not want to look in the mirror and accept the hypocrisy that comes with your position.

Take religion, culture, ect... out of it.

Do YOU think it is right for a 60 year old man to marry a 12 year old girl and have all the "rights" that accompany marriage?

Yes or no?

How about a 60 year old woman to marry a 13 year old boy?

Note, the example is NOT a 60 year old man marrying a 14 year old boy so drop the everyone things gay=pedophilia claim.

Come on multi is there ANYTHING you view as "wrong" from YOUR personal standards?

Yes or no?

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multi-species-angler Said:

if you're serious about putting a stop to pedophilia...vote to ban catholic churches, gay people have nothing to do with this

Say what? Wow, I always thought gay men felt social pressure not to be gay, so they joined the church "to avoid sin", then found the youngsters in their charge easily coerced into gay activities - too easily corrupted. So much so that the gay guy's sexual urges win over in the battle of wills.

A gay guy has urges just like straight guy... I always thought that after a few yearsthat the alter boy eventually looked like an easy target of opportunity to "secretly" be the recipient of the gay guy's uber-pent up sexual urges.

The reason that more gay guys abuse kids in that position is that the heterosexual guys who had "the calling" to become priests were less likely to be in the priesthood to "hide" their heterosexualness - they had other reasons - some virtuous - some not.

Thus heteros are inherently a lower risk population to fall off the sex wagon and abuse kids under their "powerful" position... they inherently came there to serve for mostly non-sexual rational and thus are simply less risky around kids.

I had no idea it was the Catholic churches themselves that cause the gay guys to molest young boys. In that case - hell yes - these Catholic churches need to go!

Thats actually an interesting point and worth looking into more...so the typical priest/child molester cases are commited by gay men that joined the chuch to explore their sexual desires.  Are there any studies or numbers & statistics to support this hypothesis....if there is I'm not opposing this idea....its just hard to comprehend the very small church molestation numbers compared with the entire millions of people that are gay.

As to the catholic church causing child molestation, no it is not a cause.  It is, however, very well known for covering up, and hiding evidence and the criminals that committed such crimes.

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why is it ok to have a gay pride march but if I had a hetero pride march I would be racist

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multi-species-angler Said:
Meelosh, I don't hate the catholic church one bit...to be honest the catholic church (aside from all the sex abuse cover ups)agrees with many of my views on both political and scientific topics....but that doesn't stop me from pointing out and laughing at the rampant pedophilia within it, every time some self proclaimed "catholic" equates gay marriage to pedophilia.

multi, to most with any sort of perception, it is clear you do "hate" religion.
For what reason is up to speculation.

And multi please do not join the ranks of those claiming I have said things I simply have not. It only discredits what you may say.

For the record, I do not have an issue with two gay people being granted the same "rights" as two heterosexual people (man and woman) are given thru marriage relating to rights of survivorship ect.
 
There are any number of ways this can be done thru a civil union granting them the very thing they are demanding.

It is simply my ideal that the actual term and classification of "marriage" be reserved for those that have the plumbing to perpetuate the species. (and please do not try and insult an intelligent discussion by bringing up examples of someone that can not have children because of a medical condition ect, I would think you would be intelligent enough to discuss this past that)

But yet it is a vocal, radical segment of the gay community that this "civil union" that would grant them every right a marriage does outside of title that will not rest until that title is also granted.

So what then is this really about multi?

It is not about achieving "rights" for this vocal segment of the homosexual community, it is about forcing their views and acceptance onto others no different than the people they try to condemn for doing the same when that group suggests marriage is between a man and a woman.

Don't be so foolish and biased as to deny that simple truth.

YOU reserve the right to deem YOURSELF what YOU will tolerate when you do not accept a 40 year old man marrying a 13 year old girl as being "right".

Yet you condemn others for reserving the right to not accept two men "marrying" each other.

If you can not see the hypocrisy in that position, you are no where near as perceptive as you might believe yourself to be.

Some people need to figure out that you can't run a giraffe in the Kentucky Derby!

Hunt Hard and NEVER GIVE UP

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