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one eyed fish!!!!!!!!!

The last few times i have been ice fishing every now and then i will catch a small perch with only one eye the other eye is not even there what would cause this ??
I have fished perch for many years and this is the first time i have seen this, any ideas what would cause this and do you think the fish would be safe to eat?

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depends, did it come from springfield lake? Homer would eat it. I say go for it. Put some pictures of it on here first though.

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I pick an eye out and put the fish back... Dur.  

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yep someone taking the eye out and using it for bait and throwing the little guy back

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Some people take the Perch eye out for bait because it doesn't fall off the hook as easy as a minnow would

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I'm sure its really no different than any other fish or animal that have birth defects.  Doubtful that it would hurt you to eat it I guess.  I could see something like this coming out of nelson lake though and nobody should eat fish out of that lake.  If you start catching limits of one eyed perch thats when i would quit eating fish out of that lake. 

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I hear so many people talk about not eating the fish out of Nelson lake.  Are you guys paranoid or really that crazy?  They use the water to cool the turbines.  It is not a nuclear waste dump for crying out loud.  The only reason to not eat fish out of Nelson lake would be because of the warm water may make the fish taste a bit muddy - just as they would mid-summer out of many other shallow ND lakes.  I seriously question the intelligence of anyone who honestly believes the fish in Nelson lake have defects like those you would see in a nuclear sci fi movie.

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Using perch eyes (or any other fish eye for that matter) is an accepted practice for bait that dates back to biblical times.....except for rare cases, (infection,abcess,etc) this fish will live a normal, fruitful life when released.  If you decide to go this route with your bait....you'll want to use pallid sturgeon eyes...They work the best! Something with their chemical makeup (luminiscence) is why they work so good. And here's the best part...You can use BOTH eyes! Seeing how the prehistoric sturgeon senses with it's feelers along its mouth (similar to a catfish) and has evolved over the centuries to where it doesn't need its eyes. Good luck!!!

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I can use both eyes from the sturgeon? That's great I can fish twice as long before I run out now.


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First off sportsman, thanks for calling me an iddiot.  I think everyone should eat fish that swim around the channel entrance that is approximately 116 deg F.  I guess they are basically cooked already.  Step two, I know guys in college that took samples from nelson lake for chemistry and its really not that pretty.  I am also very familiar with a power plant and know all the impurities that water is exposed to and its disguisting.  The lake makes a great fishery and I was kidding about the growing extra legs or missing eyes.  I'm just saying if you want to eat fish out of that lake go ahead but "I question you intelligence"

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I wouldnt eat fish from Nelson...

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First off sportsman, thanks for calling me an iddiot.  I think everyone should eat fish that swim around the channel entrance that is approximately 116 deg F.  I guess they are basically cooked already.  Step two, I know guys in college that took samples from nelson lake for chemistry and its really not that pretty.  I am also very familiar with a power plant and know all the impurities that water is exposed to and its disguisting.  The lake makes a great fishery and I was kidding about the growing extra legs or missing eyes.  I'm just saying if you want to eat fish out of that lake go ahead but "I question you intelligence"

Like I said, the water is warm.  I never told you it wasn't. 

As far as knowing about a power plant, I can tell you that there are thousands of them and no 2 are alike.  I don't care what disgusting things are in the water at a New Jersey power plant.  It is lake Nelson ND.

As far as you chemistry friends, I am calling BS on that one.  Actually, I am calling MEGA BS on that one.  I know people who work in the State Health Department and I can tell you that they are taking water samples all the time from that lake.  The ONLY thing harmful in the water or the fish is a high Mercury content (which we have in numerous ND lakes and streams).  Some people have eaten fish out of Lake Nelson for year with no harmful effects.  I tried some crappies from there last spring, and you know what - they tasted great.  People swim and water ski in that lake all the time.  If there really was some sort of toxic chemicals in the water, don't you think the state would have closed it off by now.  C'mon, you gotta use your head just a little bit.  Although I do realize that you are just following the crowd.  You wouldn't believe how many people actually think that Lake Nelson is some sort of Nuclear waste dump. 

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Sportsman you need to chill out.  I didn't say there was "toxic chemicals"  in there.  I don't even remember what the samples had but I know when i looked at it I decided I wouldn't be eating fish from there.  Looks like I hit a bit of a sore spot though.  Hopefully your not a vikes fan because between the nelson lake bashers and the loss today you might have a break down. 

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I would steer clear of eating the people who ski or swim in Nelson Lake.

I dont go around guessing cup sizes either I just know a nice rack when I see one.

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This topic has been discussed on FBO numerous times in the past.  Do a search for some of them.  We all know there are some people on this site who claim to "know" the real scoop on a topic and there are those who's opinion we trust.  Several of the more "reputable" members have agreed with me on other threads that there are no chemical concerns in Lake Nelson.  The concern is warm water and Mercury (which is actually common in many ND lakes).

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doublebarrelsaloon Said:
I would steer clear of eating the people who ski or swim in Nelson Lake.

I can agree with that one.

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fishmaster321 Said:
Sportsman you need to chill out.  I didn't say there was "toxic chemicals"  in there.  I don't even remember what the samples had but I know when i looked at it I decided I wouldn't be eating fish from there.  Looks like I hit a bit of a sore spot though.  Hopefully your not a vikes fan because between the nelson lake bashers and the loss today you might have a break down. 

No, you didn't hit any sore spots with me.  I just don't like it when uninformed people keep repeating urban legends and passing them off as facts (or as Allen called it in another thread - Hick Legends).

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Sportsman, i came to the conclusion you just like to argue. You said some pretty stupid stuff on here in the past so i can't count your posts or "facts" a reliable source. Nor should anyone else for that matter!

Its always funny when it happens to someone else!

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Here is a quote from Allen taken from 8-08-08 from a different thread on the same topic.  Argue with me if you want to but I am not alone.

"This is the ND version of an Urban Legend. We call it a Hick Legend.

The theory behind the legend is that the power plant there is contaminating the water. In reality, the water discharged by the power plant is nothing more than cooling water. The mercury, and yes coal has mercury, ends up getting trapped in the smokestack scrubbers OR sent up into the atmosphere.

The real problem with the fish in Nelson Lake is the water temp. Freshwater fish tend to be less palatable if they come from warmer water. And Nelson is warm, very warm!"

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Sportsman, i came to the conclusion you just like to argue. You said some pretty stupid stuff on here in the past so i can't count your posts or "facts" a reliable source. Nor should anyone else for that matter!

I have never said anything as stupid as you just did right there pal.  Takes a real rocket scientist to make a general statement like that without citing any facts.  If you want to challange my intellect, then try to challange the truth is anything I say.  Unsubstantiated BS spewing - yeah that makes you a reliable source yourself there, now doesn't it?  I am laughing my arse off at your stupidity right now.

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Wow, sportsman I believe you get your rocks off on this stuff.  Your just looking for a arguement.  Your the guy in the bar that looks around until someone gives you a bad look and then you give the sign to your friends your going in.  This all started because we were talking about one eyed fish from another lake and jokingly said is it from nelson.  If you want to eat fish from nelson have at it.  If your worried about my threads stopping people from eating fish from there you need to find some kind of hobby in life.

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Wow, sportsman I believe you get your rocks off on this stuff.  Your just looking for a arguement.  Your the guy in the bar that looks around until someone gives you a bad look and then you give the sign to your friends your going in.  This all started because we were talking about one eyed fish from another lake and jokingly said is it from nelson.  If you want to eat fish from nelson have at it.  If your worried about my threads stopping people from eating fish from there you need to find some kind of hobby in life.

What is INSANELY funny to me is that you are condemning me for wanting to argue about this, but here you are, still arguing about it, still trying to get in the last word.  You are doing EXACTLY what you are trying to condemn me for.  That is funny right there.  Hey, by the way, why don't you try to prove me wrong?  Why don't you find some health department studies showing me all the dangerous chemicals that are in the lake?  Don't come on here and just try to bash me.  Try to find facts that contradict what I say - IF YOU CAN.

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Ha ha well its the truth! Do you get  picked on a lot? Good post fishmaster

Its always funny when it happens to someone else!

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these perch where caught lake darling

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How pathetic it is.  I send a PM to RebelYell.  Then a few minutes later fishmaster makes a post on FBO alluding to what I PM'd to RebelYell.  He couldn't argue his own point, so he brings out his alternate username as a pathetic attempt to find support for his point.  That is the most pathetic thing I have EVER seen in my life.  And I am the one who needs to get a life?  WOW.

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Sportsman you just made my point. i have no idea who fishmaster is and there's your fact! Like i said, you do say some pretty stupid stuff on here I mean c'mon you have to admit...

Its always funny when it happens to someone else!

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I have to go to work now RebelYell or fishmaster or who-ever the heck you are.  I have a real life with real bills and real life situations.  I don't live in your fairy tail world where things come true just because we want them to be true. 

All I said from the very beginning is that I don't like it when people perpetuate these urban legends (hick legends).  If you want to argue that these legends are true, then please do so with facts.  Show me a study.  Show me anything other than your personal opinion that this lake is somehow contaminated and I will admit I am wrong.  Until then, I am done with you.

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What are you a mall cop? ha ha thats funny

Its always funny when it happens to someone else!

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Does anyone else see that my point here was never to demonize nelson lake.  I'm not argueing about the lake because I honestly don't care.  And now i apparently have more usernames??   I'm no shrink but this guy needs help.  I hope he didn't hit his wife or something from all this.  The rest of you all have a good day and i'll remember never to make a joke about nelson lake again. 

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I have a question about the one-eyed perch. Why wouldnt you use an eye from a perch that you kept instead of taking an eye out and throwing the fish back? I would be against such a practice wether it be a fish or an animal or a person.

 

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Well by you telling me it was from lake darling that would answer it. I am from the darling area and have seen people rip eyes and release them numerous times. I actually am not surprised that this topic hasn't come up sooner ... And by the way Sportsman you might be a lunatic, no hard feelings.

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i understand taking the eye from a perch that you are gonna keep.  but, from one you throw back?  not only does that sound very cruel, it also sounds illegal to me.  if it ain't, it should be.

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bullheadmaster Said:

I pick an eye out and put the fish back... Dur.  

Big J

Okay, just so you know.   I was completely, absolutely completely, joking by this remark.

Big J

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The point that everyone is apparently missing is that I don't give a rat's arse about Nelson lake.  I really couldn't care less.  I started out by trying to dispell a popular ND hick legend that the lake is contaminated with some kind of chemical waste simply because it is located by a power plant.  Someone else apparently wanted to make something out of it by inventing lies about tests that were run on the water and how they know the myth to be true.  Some people have these hick legends ingrained into thier minds and I want people to know the truth.  Apparently that makes me a lunatic?  Oh well, I would rather be a lunatic who knows the truth vs. a babbling idiot that won't let go of his myth. 

Take for instance how many times it has been discussed on this site that there is no such thing as a freezer limit for fish or pheasants in ND.  Possession limit and freezer limit are NOT the same thing, but many people in ND believe that they are and at least once a year this topic gets brought up.  You can show these people right in the proclamation where it states in BOLD letters that there is no such thing as a freezer limit in ND, but they still don't believe it because they always have a friend of a cousin's roommate who they know got busted for it - yadda yadda yadda.  These are the same people who insist Lake Nelson is contaminated.  I was simply trying to dispell a myth.  I don't care about the lake itself.  Bash it all you want to - just know what the hell you are talking about.  Is that to much to ask?  Oh wait, this is FBO - it is WAAAAAAAY to much to ask on this site.

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 bullhead, wasn't directing my comment at you in case you took it that way.  i thought ur sarcasm was pretty obvious.  but, i am just amazed everyone seems to be talking about it like it is common practice and acceptable.  

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Sportsman, now your saying everyone on FBO is iddiots.  Can you find a way to just get over yourself and realize this thread was never meant to be a argument and before your ranting was just a couple guys joking around about a one eyed fish.  I yield to the fact that I have no way of getting that chemistry report from my friend.  Don't care eithor.  FACT:  Nelson lake is a good fishery but I won't eat the fish from it.  On a more sincere note:  please seek anger management classes. 

Sincerly,

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I never said that everyone on FBO is an idiot, but I am glad to see that you finally see that you fit that catagory.  And your right - this thread was never meant as an argument - until you showed up - and even then it wasn't an argument until you made it one.  And now that you have no credibility left and no facts to back up your statement that no one should ever eat fish out of Nelson Lake, now you say that you were only joking.  I am not stupid enough to believe that one.  Even you are not that stupid.

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I'm sure its really no different than any other fish or animal that have birth defects.  Doubtful that it would hurt you to eat it I guess.  I could see something like this coming out of nelson lake though and nobody should eat fish out of that lake.  If you start catching limits of one eyed perch thats when i would quit eating fish out of that lake. 
I hear so many people talk about not eating the fish out of Nelson lake.  Are you guys paranoid or really that crazy?  They use the water to cool the turbines.  It is not a nuclear waste dump for crying out loud.  The only reason to not eat fish out of Nelson lake would be because of the warm water may make the fish taste a bit muddy - just as they would mid-summer out of many other shallow ND lakes.  I seriously question the intelligence of anyone who honestly believes the fish in Nelson lake have defects like those you would see in a nuclear sci fi movie.

Does it really look like i'm trying to start a argument here??  And you go straight in to call me an iddiot at this point and you also said that common sense was too much to ask of people of FBO.  I stated a simple fact that 8 years ago in college a friend did a study on nelson lake and the things in it were nasty.  I never said to anyone anyhow that I was out to prove nelson lake had "sci fi" creatures in it.   You can rant all you want but I have nothing to prove to you nor do I care to try. 

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But yet you keep babbling on - I am still laughing my arse off at your stupidity there moron.

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Well looking back over your history sportman all you seem to want to do is argue.  If you want my number to continue this just ask.  I'm not going to put anyone through more of your 10 year old comebacks. 

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fishmaster and sportsman, I brought up this topic because i had a legitimate question about some perch i have caught recently!!!! it seems that you two cannot get along or agree on any topic, if this type of behavior continues you will leave me no choice but to recommend that you both sit down with someone and try to work  out your differences .  I would be more than happy to sit down with the both of you and talk this over.

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espringers Said:
 bullhead, wasn't directing my comment at you in case you took it that way.  i thought ur sarcasm was pretty obvious.  but, i am just amazed everyone seems to be talking about it like it is common practice and acceptable.  

Oh I know that bud. Just making sure the respected name callers through this thread new it was a joke.

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But yet you keep babbling on - I am still laughing my arse off at your stupidity there moron.

Sportsman, you need to completely relax.. Serious, just stop.

Big J

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No point arguing over this one.  Sportsman and Allen's previous post  are correct.  The G & F looked at the fish from Nelson and they are like fish from any other lake except that because of the warm water they taste mushy and crappy.  They also found they might have a few more parasites in them because of the continual warmth of the water allowing uniterrupted growth of muscle parasites, but this is no different than lakes along the southern USA. 
All fish have parasites in them to a greater or lesser extent, and they cook up and add a bit of muscle producing protein anyway!     
I can't believe anyone would remove an eye from a perch then toss it back!?!   Yuk!  Don't tell PETA that or they'll have a bit of legitimate  ammo to attack fishing!.   Just read this morning  that they want to call Salmon "Sea Kittens!"   As long as they continue to use wacky stuff like this we are OK, but things like removing an eye and tossing it back fall into the "film the killing of the bear cubs and post it on the internet' nonsense that closed the Northern Ontario spring bear season a while back.  IMO, irreparable damage to our cause. 

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All I can say is wow.  This went way down hill really fast. 


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So if the fish had three eyes doe that make Sportsman Mr. Burns and fishmaster321, RebelYell and bullheadmaster…Lisa, Bart and Homer ???


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            They do exist , really , here's Big J's stringer from this week-end. Pretty sure he said Nelson Lake.

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Buddy sent me a picture of this turtle caught off shore there this summer....


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Toesy        Rumor has it they are doing secret goverment testing . Big J you been eating the fish and drinking out of the lake again ????????????

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I don't know from the looks of things maybe Sportsman and Allen (and NDGF) are a bit off....come on you have to believe everyting you see and hear on the Internet ?!? don't you ????


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