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one eyed fish!!!!!!!!!

The last few times i have been ice fishing every now and then i will catch a small perch with only one eye the other eye is not even there what would cause this ??
I have fished perch for many years and this is the first time i have seen this, any ideas what would cause this and do you think the fish would be safe to eat?

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depends, did it come from springfield lake? Homer would eat it. I say go for it. Put some pictures of it on here first though.

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I pick an eye out and put the fish back... Dur.  

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yep someone taking the eye out and using it for bait and throwing the little guy back

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Some people take the Perch eye out for bait because it doesn't fall off the hook as easy as a minnow would

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I'm sure its really no different than any other fish or animal that have birth defects.  Doubtful that it would hurt you to eat it I guess.  I could see something like this coming out of nelson lake though and nobody should eat fish out of that lake.  If you start catching limits of one eyed perch thats when i would quit eating fish out of that lake. 

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I hear so many people talk about not eating the fish out of Nelson lake.  Are you guys paranoid or really that crazy?  They use the water to cool the turbines.  It is not a nuclear waste dump for crying out loud.  The only reason to not eat fish out of Nelson lake would be because of the warm water may make the fish taste a bit muddy - just as they would mid-summer out of many other shallow ND lakes.  I seriously question the intelligence of anyone who honestly believes the fish in Nelson lake have defects like those you would see in a nuclear sci fi movie.

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Using perch eyes (or any other fish eye for that matter) is an accepted practice for bait that dates back to biblical times.....except for rare cases, (infection,abcess,etc) this fish will live a normal, fruitful life when released.  If you decide to go this route with your bait....you'll want to use pallid sturgeon eyes...They work the best! Something with their chemical makeup (luminiscence) is why they work so good. And here's the best part...You can use BOTH eyes! Seeing how the prehistoric sturgeon senses with it's feelers along its mouth (similar to a catfish) and has evolved over the centuries to where it doesn't need its eyes. Good luck!!!

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I can use both eyes from the sturgeon? That's great I can fish twice as long before I run out now.


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First off sportsman, thanks for calling me an iddiot.  I think everyone should eat fish that swim around the channel entrance that is approximately 116 deg F.  I guess they are basically cooked already.  Step two, I know guys in college that took samples from nelson lake for chemistry and its really not that pretty.  I am also very familiar with a power plant and know all the impurities that water is exposed to and its disguisting.  The lake makes a great fishery and I was kidding about the growing extra legs or missing eyes.  I'm just saying if you want to eat fish out of that lake go ahead but "I question you intelligence"

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I wouldnt eat fish from Nelson...

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fishmaster321 Said:
First off sportsman, thanks for calling me an iddiot.  I think everyone should eat fish that swim around the channel entrance that is approximately 116 deg F.  I guess they are basically cooked already.  Step two, I know guys in college that took samples from nelson lake for chemistry and its really not that pretty.  I am also very familiar with a power plant and know all the impurities that water is exposed to and its disguisting.  The lake makes a great fishery and I was kidding about the growing extra legs or missing eyes.  I'm just saying if you want to eat fish out of that lake go ahead but "I question you intelligence"

Like I said, the water is warm.  I never told you it wasn't. 

As far as knowing about a power plant, I can tell you that there are thousands of them and no 2 are alike.  I don't care what disgusting things are in the water at a New Jersey power plant.  It is lake Nelson ND.

As far as you chemistry friends, I am calling BS on that one.  Actually, I am calling MEGA BS on that one.  I know people who work in the State Health Department and I can tell you that they are taking water samples all the time from that lake.  The ONLY thing harmful in the water or the fish is a high Mercury content (which we have in numerous ND lakes and streams).  Some people have eaten fish out of Lake Nelson for year with no harmful effects.  I tried some crappies from there last spring, and you know what - they tasted great.  People swim and water ski in that lake all the time.  If there really was some sort of toxic chemicals in the water, don't you think the state would have closed it off by now.  C'mon, you gotta use your head just a little bit.  Although I do realize that you are just following the crowd.  You wouldn't believe how many people actually think that Lake Nelson is some sort of Nuclear waste dump. 

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Sportsman you need to chill out.  I didn't say there was "toxic chemicals"  in there.  I don't even remember what the samples had but I know when i looked at it I decided I wouldn't be eating fish from there.  Looks like I hit a bit of a sore spot though.  Hopefully your not a vikes fan because between the nelson lake bashers and the loss today you might have a break down. 

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I would steer clear of eating the people who ski or swim in Nelson Lake.

I dont go around guessing cup sizes either I just know a nice rack when I see one.

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This topic has been discussed on FBO numerous times in the past.  Do a search for some of them.  We all know there are some people on this site who claim to "know" the real scoop on a topic and there are those who's opinion we trust.  Several of the more "reputable" members have agreed with me on other threads that there are no chemical concerns in Lake Nelson.  The concern is warm water and Mercury (which is actually common in many ND lakes).

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doublebarrelsaloon Said:
I would steer clear of eating the people who ski or swim in Nelson Lake.

I can agree with that one.

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fishmaster321 Said:
Sportsman you need to chill out.  I didn't say there was "toxic chemicals"  in there.  I don't even remember what the samples had but I know when i looked at it I decided I wouldn't be eating fish from there.  Looks like I hit a bit of a sore spot though.  Hopefully your not a vikes fan because between the nelson lake bashers and the loss today you might have a break down. 

No, you didn't hit any sore spots with me.  I just don't like it when uninformed people keep repeating urban legends and passing them off as facts (or as Allen called it in another thread - Hick Legends).

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Sportsman, i came to the conclusion you just like to argue. You said some pretty stupid stuff on here in the past so i can't count your posts or "facts" a reliable source. Nor should anyone else for that matter!

Its always funny when it happens to someone else!

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Here is a quote from Allen taken from 8-08-08 from a different thread on the same topic.  Argue with me if you want to but I am not alone.

"This is the ND version of an Urban Legend. We call it a Hick Legend.

The theory behind the legend is that the power plant there is contaminating the water. In reality, the water discharged by the power plant is nothing more than cooling water. The mercury, and yes coal has mercury, ends up getting trapped in the smokestack scrubbers OR sent up into the atmosphere.

The real problem with the fish in Nelson Lake is the water temp. Freshwater fish tend to be less palatable if they come from warmer water. And Nelson is warm, very warm!"

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RebelYell Said:
Sportsman, i came to the conclusion you just like to argue. You said some pretty stupid stuff on here in the past so i can't count your posts or "facts" a reliable source. Nor should anyone else for that matter!

I have never said anything as stupid as you just did right there pal.  Takes a real rocket scientist to make a general statement like that without citing any facts.  If you want to challange my intellect, then try to challange the truth is anything I say.  Unsubstantiated BS spewing - yeah that makes you a reliable source yourself there, now doesn't it?  I am laughing my arse off at your stupidity right now.

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Wow, sportsman I believe you get your rocks off on this stuff.  Your just looking for a arguement.  Your the guy in the bar that looks around until someone gives you a bad look and then you give the sign to your friends your going in.  This all started because we were talking about one eyed fish from another lake and jokingly said is it from nelson.  If you want to eat fish from nelson have at it.  If your worried about my threads stopping people from eating fish from there you need to find some kind of hobby in life.

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fishmaster321 Said:
Wow, sportsman I believe you get your rocks off on this stuff.  Your just looking for a arguement.  Your the guy in the bar that looks around until someone gives you a bad look and then you give the sign to your friends your going in.  This all started because we were talking about one eyed fish from another lake and jokingly said is it from nelson.  If you want to eat fish from nelson have at it.  If your worried about my threads stopping people from eating fish from there you need to find some kind of hobby in life.

What is INSANELY funny to me is that you are condemning me for wanting to argue about this, but here you are, still arguing about it, still trying to get in the last word.  You are doing EXACTLY what you are trying to condemn me for.  That is funny right there.  Hey, by the way, why don't you try to prove me wrong?  Why don't you find some health department studies showing me all the dangerous chemicals that are in the lake?  Don't come on here and just try to bash me.  Try to find facts that contradict what I say - IF YOU CAN.

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Ha ha well its the truth! Do you get  picked on a lot? Good post fishmaster

Its always funny when it happens to someone else!

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these perch where caught lake darling

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How pathetic it is.  I send a PM to RebelYell.  Then a few minutes later fishmaster makes a post on FBO alluding to what I PM'd to RebelYell.  He couldn't argue his own point, so he brings out his alternate username as a pathetic attempt to find support for his point.  That is the most pathetic thing I have EVER seen in my life.  And I am the one who needs to get a life?  WOW.

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Sportsman you just made my point. i have no idea who fishmaster is and there's your fact! Like i said, you do say some pretty stupid stuff on here I mean c'mon you have to admit...

Its always funny when it happens to someone else!

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I have to go to work now RebelYell or fishmaster or who-ever the heck you are.  I have a real life with real bills and real life situations.  I don't live in your fairy tail world where things come true just because we want them to be true. 

All I said from the very beginning is that I don't like it when people perpetuate these urban legends (hick legends).  If you want to argue that these legends are true, then please do so with facts.  Show me a study.  Show me anything other than your personal opinion that this lake is somehow contaminated and I will admit I am wrong.  Until then, I am done with you.

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What are you a mall cop? ha ha thats funny

Its always funny when it happens to someone else!

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Does anyone else see that my point here was never to demonize nelson lake.  I'm not argueing about the lake because I honestly don't care.  And now i apparently have more usernames??   I'm no shrink but this guy needs help.  I hope he didn't hit his wife or something from all this.  The rest of you all have a good day and i'll remember never to make a joke about nelson lake again. 

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I have a question about the one-eyed perch. Why wouldnt you use an eye from a perch that you kept instead of taking an eye out and throwing the fish back? I would be against such a practice wether it be a fish or an animal or a person.

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Well by you telling me it was from lake darling that would answer it. I am from the darling area and have seen people rip eyes and release them numerous times. I actually am not surprised that this topic hasn't come up sooner ... And by the way Sportsman you might be a lunatic, no hard feelings.

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