Non-Resident Rifle Buck Tag

NO BIG J, youre wrong on this one, a friend that hunts with us is from the cities and he drew a NR buck tag for 2B this year, and there arent any left over ill garuntee that cuz i know plenty of people that got turned down for 2B

the NR lottery may be seperate but it occurs at the same time as our 1st lottery for residents

I put in for the first lottery Big J. Got denied. Non-residents are eligible for 1 percent of the available tags in that unit on the first draw.

sdwxman Said:
I put in for the first lottery Big J. Got denied. Non-residents are eligible for 1 percent of the available tags in that unit on the first draw.

Okay, so what does the (Through the second deer gun lottery) mean?

Thanks for the info Mike.  I'm just trying to make sense of it all myself.  Maybe I'm just slow.

Big J

yeh its very confusing, maybe only a g&f rep can answer it correctly

bullheadmaster Said:

sdwxman Said:
I put in for the first lottery Big J. Got denied. Non-residents are eligible for 1 percent of the available tags in that unit on the first draw.

Okay, so what does the (Through the second deer gun lottery) mean?

Thanks for the info Mike.  I'm just trying to make sense of it all myself.  Maybe I'm just slow.

Big J

It means that if a nonresident isn't lucky on the first drawing they are still eligible through the second as long as there is tags available! I believe after that they can buy as many leftover tags that are available when they are first come, first served! You are  just misinterpeting it wrong!

tearbear Said:

bullheadmaster Said:

sdwxman Said:
I put in for the first lottery Big J. Got denied. Non-residents are eligible for 1 percent of the available tags in that unit on the first draw.

Okay, so what does the (Through the second deer gun lottery) mean?

Thanks for the info Mike.  I'm just trying to make sense of it all myself.  Maybe I'm just slow.

Big J

It means that if a nonresident isn't lucky on the first drawing they are still eligible through the second as long as there is tags available! I believe after that they can buy as many leftover tags that are available when they are first come, first served! You are  just misinterpeting it wrong!

Yes, you are correct. I have purchased doe tags after all the drawings have been completed. They are about $50 or so for a NR.

Right I understand the $50 per tag, Jim. That makes sense and I'm aware of that. 

I just think NDGF could make this much more clear about the tags available for non-residents in each unit, drawing odds, etc.  MT, WY, and SD do it for non-residents so I think ND should.

Meester, I still think the way they print the amount of tags and the way they have it worded is silly!

Big J

bullheadmaster Said:
Right I understand the $50 per tag, Jim. That makes sense and I'm aware of that. 

I just think NDGF could make this much more clear about the tags available for non-residents in each unit, drawing odds, etc.  MT, WY, and SD do it for non-residents so I think ND should.

Meester, I still think the way they print the amount of tags and the way they have it worded is silly!

Big J

I hear ya Big J. I thought there was a link posted earlier this year that showed how many NR applied for each unit/tag. Maybe I read that in ND Outdoors. But yeah, I would like to see how many NR are putting in for the unit I am applying for.

Maybe they do have something available for the stats.  I can't seem to find it.  I just looked at the Feb 2010 ND Outdoors Mag and didn't see specifics. 

http://www.gf.nd.gov/multimedia/ndoutdoors/issues/2011/feb/docs/2011-february.pdf 

Thanks for the responses guys.  I also plan on being a non-resident applying in ND some day so the information helps.  Heh heh heh.

Big J

I asked NDGF the same questions and this is the reponse I got back. 

1st and 2nd drawing, 1% buck tags for NR's.  3rd or any subsequent drawings it's a true lottery and everyone who applies has the same odds.

You still fuzzy from the rules meeting last week or what?

Your wrong Clay. NR can't apply in the second lottery. Residents only.  I'm just a person and I am fuzzy.

bullheadmaster Said:
Your wrong Clay. NR can't apply in the second lottery. Residents only.  I'm just a person and I am fuzzy.

Technically speaking, the second lottery has already been held.  It's the "second choice unit" you filled out on your original deer application.  Anything from here on out is 3rd and 4th drawing.

bullheadmaster Said:
Right I understand the $50 per tag, Jim. That makes sense and I'm aware of that. 

I just think NDGF could make this much more clear about the tags available for non-residents in each unit, drawing odds, etc.  MT, WY, and SD do it for non-residents so I think ND should.

Meester, I still think the way they print the amount of tags and the way they have it worded is silly!

Big J

Big J ! You are correct! The wording is a little hard to figure out! The problem is that they have some lawyer do the wording and then us who have problems doing simple math have to decipher it!!

Allen Said:

bullheadmaster Said:
Your wrong Clay. NR can't apply in the second lottery. Residents only.  I'm just a person and I am fuzzy.

Technically speaking, the second lottery has already been held.  It's the "second choice unit" you filled out on your original deer application.  Anything from here on out is 3rd and 4th drawing.

Right.  Its all the third lottery now with 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th applications.

Allen Said:

bullheadmaster Said:
Your wrong Clay. NR can't apply in the second lottery. Residents only.  I'm just a person and I am fuzzy.

Technically speaking, the second lottery has already been held.  It's the "second choice unit" you filled out on your original deer application.  Anything from here on out is 3rd and 4th drawing.

Then you wouldnt need to fill out the second lottery application they send out to people who didnt draw in the first drawing. There is no 4th lottery. It's 3rd lottery- 1st app, 2nd app, 3rd app, and 4th app.

bullheadmaster Said:

Allen Said:

bullheadmaster Said:
Your wrong Clay. NR can't apply in the second lottery. Residents only.  I'm just a person and I am fuzzy.

Technically speaking, the second lottery has already been held.  It's the "second choice unit" you filled out on your original deer application.  Anything from here on out is 3rd and 4th drawing.

Right.  Its all the third lottery now with 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th applications.

The 3rd lottery is different. All four of those take place after the 2nd lottery. 3rd lottery-1st app is for people who forgot to apply or dont have a tag for some reason. 3rd lottery-2nd, 3rd, and 4th applications are for anyone whether you already have a tag or not. Then, it's first come first serve.

Could ND come up with a more confusing system?  Why not just sell all the extra tags over-the-counter right after the first lottery - first come, first serve? 

it doesnt matter because I was lucky enough to draw a NR buck tag in 2b, four years of points built up.  Cant wait, now to get the cameras out in the woods.