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Anyone ever tried a Nils Master Ice Auger?  I have heard they are really good but the max hole size is 8 inch.  Here is a sale at Cabelas on this auger.

http://www.cabelas.com/ice-augers-nils-power-auger.shtml?WT.tsrc=CSE&WT.mc_id=shoppingebay&WT.z_mc_id1=1083154&rid=40&mr:referralID=311669be-205a-11e1-931b-001b2166c2c0

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I assume you are in the market for the 4.5" model because of all those little weenie perch you catch. 

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Did you notice that the regular price and the sale price are the same? I do wish that I owned one. The Tanaka engine they use is the same one that Hilti uses on their portable hammer drill- nearly bullet-proof.

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Everything I've heard about them says they rip through the ice like a hot knife through butter. 

There are some videos on youtube of them tearing things up.

I wonder if the auger portion would bolt up to a jiffy or strikemaster? I didn't look at the shaft size, but if a guy wants to try one on their own powerhead that would work. 

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Enslow-Kind of limiting yourself aren't you even it does cut well?  Get a 10 in something else.

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What's the advantage of 10"? I've never fished with one, only 6's and 8's.



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I don't limit myself to pan fish or small wallleyes.  Large fish are much easier to get started in hole if it's larger.  We also fish frequently for big pike.  A 6 is useless and and 8 only slightly less useless for this. 

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We have one up at Scenic Sports in Williston.  I seen them at the show and have been researching them the last couple years so I ordered one in.  The only downfall I can see is they dont have the ripper blade in case of fishing the river or dirty water. If you fish alot of lakes I would say its the way to go!

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Looked hard at them but went back to Jiffy because of the ripper blades and dirty ice. Weight was good but if memory serves me there is no starter point on the auger which is a must.

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I have got big fish through 8" holes you just have to be good... I hate 10" holes I grabbed  my lil brother right before he went under in one of those bigass holes when we were lil pretty scary.

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I catch big eyes through 8" on Winnipeg, so it's not like it's critical for bigger fish.
An 8" "slightly less than useless"?? There's countless large eyes landed every year through puny nearly useless holes.



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buckmaster-Like I said, I fish for big pike quite a bit.  I don't care how "good" you are.  Landing a  large pike in an eight hole is not advisable.  I consider "large" mid twenties to thirty lbs.  Do a little math and for simplicity treat the pike's girth as a circle and see how much room you have  with an eight inch hole.  Also , attempt to release a living fish back into the water complete with skin and I think you'll find a ten inch will work better.

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guywhofishes-You must have not seen the pike portion of my post but even for 10 & 12 lb. walleyes I favor  a ten inch.  Easier to get to the hole without playing them to death before you attempt to release them.  If you keep them for a mount most of the time there's also fewer  marks.

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I catch big eyes through 8" on Winnipeg, so it's not like it's critical for bigger fish.
An 8" "slightly less than useless"?? There's countless large eyes landed every year through puny nearly useless holes.

Agreed!  I have both bits.  It is fun to look down the bigger hole, but not really needed.  More mental than anything. 

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I just got the Nils HAND auger in the mail, and will be taking out soon, I will let you know how it cuts. Wont be able to help you out regarding the power head.

I have heard alot of good things about Nils augers.  I wish 10 inch holes were an option, 10 inch holes are awesome for sight fishing. but yeah, you lose more stuff down the hole.

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guywhofishes Said:
I catch big eyes through 8" on Winnipeg, so it's not like it's critical for bigger fish.
An 8" "slightly less than useless"?? There's countless large eyes landed every year through puny nearly useless holes.

Agreed!  I have both bits.  It is fun to look down the bigger hole, but not really needed.  More mental than anything. 

I like 10 inch holes so just in case I need to take a swim there plenty of room for my fat a$$ to fit haha, nah i like 10inchers too, but yes keep kids away, never fun steppin in a big ol hole, I have seen a dog almost go down before, wasn't real funny


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fishmahn Said:
I don't limit myself to pan fish or small wallleyes.  Large fish are much easier to get started in hole if it's larger.  We also fish frequently for big pike.  A 6 is useless and and 8 only slightly less useless for this. 

I have experience with many different sizes of holes.  They all work, but the smaller ones usually have the best overall experience IMO.

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I have experience with many different sizes of holes.  They all work, but the smaller ones usually have the best overall experience IMO.

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fishmahn Said:
guywhofishes-You must have not seen the pike portion of my post but even for 10 & 12 lb. walleyes I favor  a ten inch.  Easier to get to the hole without playing them to death before you attempt to release them.  If you keep them for a mount most of the time there's also fewer  marks.

I agree that a ten inch hole is nice for big pig walleyes but i have never seen an 8 inch hole mark up a fish.  sounds pretty fishy fishmahn. 

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10 inch hole doesnt really take any longer to drill, and some of us need that for it to fit...

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10" holes are kid getters and boot grabbers and leg breakers --- if you dont fish with kids not a problem --- if you do be careful

Why do think they made the first augers with a 8" hole? 

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enslow-*lol*  Just goes to show people on this site will argue about anything.  I mentioned "large fish" see above post for a ten inch and to do a little math.  Apparently you didn't do that.  A March pike in the 45, 46, 47" length can have a girth of over 25".  Divide that girth by Pi ( 3.14) and see what you get.  Okay,...Now tell me how you get that up an eight inch hole! 

P.S. Did I mention I want the skin and flesh to remain on the fish???

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enslow-*lol*  Just goes to show people on this site will argue about anything.  I mentioned "large fish" see above post for a ten inch and to do a little math.  Apparently you didn't do that.  A March pike in the 45, 46, 47" length can have a girth of over 25".  Divide that girth by Pi ( 3.14) and see what you get.  Okay,...Now tell me how you get that up an eight inch hole! 

P.S. Did I mention I want the skin and flesh to remain on the fish???

i have a 10 inch and an 8 inch auger.  I prefer the big hole but the auger is heavy.  I also learned the formula to calculate circumference back in grade school,  thankyou...

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enslow-Hmm, YOu stated you have the best overall experience with an 8 inch and have never seen an 8 mark up a fish and you can calculate approx. diameter.  That leaves me to believe you've never landed a large fish..  You seem to have failed to read the specifics of my post but told me it sounded "fishy":   So,  once again tell me even in "theory how you land a pike with a 26" girth or larger in an 8 inch hole and not see it marked up or filleted before it reaches the surface.

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enslow-Hmm, YOu stated you have the best overall experience with an 8 inch and have never seen an 8 mark up a fish and you can calculate approx. diameter.  That leaves me to believe you've never landed a large fish..  You seem to have failed to read the specifics of my post but told me it sounded "fishy":   So,  once again tell me even in "theory how you land a pike with a 26" girth or larger in an 8 inch hole and not see it marked up or filleted before it reaches the surface.

I don't know how to catch fish, i just pretend to know how...

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fishmahn Said:
enslow-Hmm, YOu stated you have the best overall experience with an 8 inch and have never seen an 8 mark up a fish and you can calculate approx. diameter.  That leaves me to believe you've never landed a large fish..  You seem to have failed to read the specifics of my post but told me it sounded "fishy":   So,  once again tell me even in "theory how you land a pike with a 26" girth or larger in an 8 inch hole and not see it marked up or filleted before it reaches the surface.

Post pics of the pike you caught with over a 26" girth.

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Normal size walleyes have a harder time turning around in smaller holes if the fish happens to pop off the hook.

Plus my leg fits down a 10" hole, not too fun when its cold out!

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Fishmahn, I pulled my 10 inch auger out of storage just because of your advice.  This is the old 3.5 HP version from the late 90's.  This auger is a heavy beast. 

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enslow-Good man!  Now when that then once in a lifetime monster shows up  you'll be ready and also in better shape. 

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enslow-Good man!  Now when that then once in a lifetime monster shows up  you'll be ready and also in better shape. 

I fish shallow a lot and the 10 inch helps for big fish.  I just hope i can get the auger running tonight.

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    10" hole also gives you a few more days of chopping open before having to re-drill, if you don't keep your house heated at all times; if you get set on the "honey hole"

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The old 3.5 HP started right up after not being started for 10 years.  It doesn't seem to be kicking into high gear though without cutting out.  I wonder if it just needs the jets to be adjusted or if it needs a new carb kit.  I will have to try it on the ice this week and see.  Anyone else having any input on this?

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The old 3.5 HP started right up after not being started for 10 years.  It doesn't seem to be kicking into high gear though without cutting out.  I wonder if it just needs the jets to be adjusted or if it needs a new carb kit.  I will have to try it on the ice this week and see.  Anyone else having any input on this?

Bring it in for a carb clean, and maybe an adjustment. Its pretty cheap and saves you the headache of fiddling with it.

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so... the argument at hand is 10" is too big and 8" is too small... I'll just stick with my 9" and have the best of both worlds!


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Enslow -
 I have the 8" Nils with the Tanaka motor. I can't tell you how much I love it.  Its about 17-18lbs.  It cuts like crazy.  Comes with a handle to use it as hand auger on early ice.  Its quieter than most augers. Motor is industrial rated and rated for more than double (I believe) that of pretty much any other auger.   Mostly I bought it because I drill a lot of holes so I needed light and fast.
   All that being said - I don't claim they are right for everyone.  They are spendy.  I think they are best suited for a person who drills a lot of holes.  If I was someone who drilled less than maybe 20 holes on average per outing...I might buy something cheaper.   Or if I need a 10".  Or if I did a lot of drilling on dirty ice.
   I tried the strikelight, the Icegator and one of the newer Jiffys before I bought this one.  Like I said - everyones needs (and opinions) are going to differ.  For me, I am confident I got the right one.

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CAUGHT MANY 15-25 LB. PIKE THREW 8 INCH HOLE .AS WELL AS SOME BIG EYES TO. JUST TAKES A LITTLE MORE TIME AND SKILL 2 GET THEM OUT......

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For me as others I do like the 10' for pike, but was at LOW a few years back when a friend caught a 27lb pike fishing for walleye and perch on a light rod with 8lb mono line and a star jig. The pike broke the rod, and he did a hand over hand to complete the catch with the jig coming out of the mouth of the pike about half way up the hole in 25" deep ice. The pike literalry swam out of the hole onto the floor of the house.

Funny thing was it came out of a 8" hole with no problems. Later that day another friend caught a 11lb walleye out of the same size hole. The fish came off as well and the small hole kept the fish from going back into the lake.

I have no fear of not being able to get a large pike or walleye out of an 8" hole but I do know for a fact that a 3lb walleye can turn around in a 10" hole and it is why my new auger is now an 8" and the NEED for a bigger hole is nothing more than a WANT! Kind of like needing a 338 to kill an elk!

In my lifetime I have seen fence row to fence row farming and the return of CRP and game to the landscape.Now we face again the prosepect of fence row to fence row again! Sportsman are our own worst enemy in that we fail to look forward and focus to much on the now!

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Hardwaterman Said:
For me as others I do like the 10' for pike, but was at LOW a few years back when a friend caught a 27lb pike fishing for walleye and perch on a light rod with 8lb mono line and a star jig. The pike broke the rod, and he did a hand over hand to complete the catch with the jig coming out of the mouth of the pike about half way up the hole in 25" deep ice. The pike literalry swam out of the hole onto the floor of the house.

Funny thing was it came out of a 8" hole with no problems. Later that day another friend caught a 11lb walleye out of the same size hole. The fish came off as well and the small hole kept the fish from going back into the lake.

I have no fear of not being able to get a large pike or walleye out of an 8" hole but I do know for a fact that a 3lb walleye can turn around in a 10" hole and it is why my new auger is now an 8" and the NEED for a bigger hole is nothing more than a WANT! Kind of like needing a 338 to kill an elk!

I agree for the most part other than 1 scenario.  In really shallow water i think the bigger hole helps to get the fish's head started much easier.   Especially on Hog walleye

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What do you consider shallow? We fished Eckleson a couple years back and had about 25" of ice and about 2ft of water under the ice. Caught 9 pike that day which all went above 12lbs and had no issues with the 8" hole. Granted a 10" would have made it easier, but again not for an additional 20 lbs of weight to carry out any distance. Plus the 8" rides better on the back of a sled or ATV!

Buy and use what you want, but the claims that you NEED a 10" hole is just not accurate. Way back in the late 70's my wife's grandfather had a 4" hand auger and a 6" electric auger and I remember well him catching more than one 12lb pike and getting them up that 4" hole. Was always entertaining to see them pop out of the hole like a Jack in the Box!

In my lifetime I have seen fence row to fence row farming and the return of CRP and game to the landscape.Now we face again the prosepect of fence row to fence row again! Sportsman are our own worst enemy in that we fail to look forward and focus to much on the now!

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Hardwaterman-YOu mentioned  the inaccuracies regarding a 10" hole vs. an 8 ".  I'd never consider fishing large pike with an  8".  For one thing it's much more difficult to get them or any large fish started to the hole.  With a small hole you can attempt to force them and experience that roll where you lose the fish or play them forever making it difficult to release  a fish that will live.  Also a later season  pike in the 45+ inch size would probably not fit in an 8 Inch hole period.  A twelve pounder, yes it would but a twelve pounder  is also not a large fish. 

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fish much like your theory on GW and taxes they do not hold any water at all! Proof over and over that fish as large as you state do come out of holes smaller than 10"! Girth of the fish is not a solid constant regardless and you can do the math as stated prior. I have taken walleye through the ice in excess of 11 lbs through an 8" hole!

You are scrambling to justify a position as fact vs simply stating that your opinion is that you like and prefer a 10" hole over an 8"!

There is no absolute NEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In my lifetime I have seen fence row to fence row farming and the return of CRP and game to the landscape.Now we face again the prosepect of fence row to fence row again! Sportsman are our own worst enemy in that we fail to look forward and focus to much on the now!

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Hardwater-Once again you spout silliness much like YOUR views on global warming, taxes and anything else that requires a little bit  of common sense.  You continue to talk about things you really know little about,...just enough to get you into trouble.  OF COURSE not all fish are carbon copies.  YOU echo the obvious and attempt to make a point using no data and perhaps no experience.  Of course an 11 lbs. walleye could come through an  eight inch hole.   If you wish I can show you the math demonstrating this feat.  I really thought you would know how yourself and not just marvel at the magic of it all.  Would a ten be better,...yes I think so from reasons I stated above.  Could  a late season pike with over a 25 inch girth.  Hell no!  One of my favorite things in the winter is looking for pike 30 lbs. or better.  Several of my friends have gone over 30 and I've come close and none of us bother to waste our time with an undersized auger. To argue with reasons and specifics I stated above ("large" fish, releasing most in liveable condition etc) is not sound thinking imho.
   We have two possibilities here hard.  Either you've never caught a large fish or you just want to argue even when you must know better.  I'm hoping for the latter,..if not I'm wasting too much of my time replying to you.

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Fish...different strokes for different folks.  Everyone has valid points for what they use and why.  Why don't you two leave it alone.

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Johnr-Sounds like a plan to me!

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Johnr-Sounds like a plan to me!

Wrong guy but thanks fish.

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Fish a 25" girth on a pike would not equate to it not fitting up a 8" hole because the mass is not solid. Anyone that has ever caught a large pike and supported one just behind the head will attest to the fact that your hand will sink in almost to the back bone!

Which leads me to believe you jump in on these things simply to imply that you actually do participate in outdoor activites like hunting and fishing. Good old Babe Winkleman pulled a 35lb pike full of eggs out of the ice on one of his shows and they where using an 8" hole. In part he was pushing one of the tip up products and said that it had a lip on the underside at 8" to seal the hole but would cover a 10" as well!

Guess Babe is really special or caught a real skinny 35lb fish since a 47" pike with a girth of 25" would run slighly under 30lbs !

In my lifetime I have seen fence row to fence row farming and the return of CRP and game to the landscape.Now we face again the prosepect of fence row to fence row again! Sportsman are our own worst enemy in that we fail to look forward and focus to much on the now!

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Sorry Frosty! 

Hard- You're really getting silly now.  Maybe you should just reread my post and things will be better in the morning.  Good luck on releasing those "35lb." pike you strangle and stretch. *l*  Or do you eat those since they're already filleted with spinal systems terminated at the neck?  You do know water supports mass?? You know eating those biguns have a pretty high mercury value in the fillet and that can cause  central nervous sytem problems........hmmmmmmmmm.  Probably should review those practices guy or you might start making strange statements.  Have a good night and stay with the twelve pounders.

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FUNNY STUFF..... I WISH THEY MADE A 10 HORSE JIFFY WITH A 16 INCH AUGER..CUZ THE FISH I CATCH ARE F-IN HUGE......NOT 2 MENTION GETTIN MY NETS OUT OF THE HOLE WOULD BE EASYER THAN A TEN.....

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FUNNY STUFF..... I WISH THEY MADE A 10 HORSE JIFFY WITH A 16 INCH AUGER..CUZ THE FISH I CATCH ARE F-IN HUGE......NOT 2 MENTION GETTIN MY NETS OUT OF THE HOLE WOULD BE EASYER THAN A TEN.....

I actually have a 20" Hydraulic powered auger mounted on the front of my truck when I take the plow off.  I need a hole that big so I don't knock any scales off my 40lb muskie-pike-sturgeons I catch on a regular basis.  I tried to pull them through an 8 inch hole, but their heads fell off when they came through.(they were pretty old)

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That's funny sh%t there captain!! 

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