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New Vexilar FLX-28

Re: New Vexilar FLX-28
by on 11/01/2013 1:54 PM | Reply #41 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Re: New Vexilar FLX-28
by on 11/01/2013 1:54 PM | Reply #42 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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fisherman25 Said:
kraftamatic Said:
Anybody buy one yet. Can u only get 9 degree or can you get the 9 or 19 transducer.

Buy one Kraft! 

It comes with the new pro ducer.  That ducer goes from 8 degree to 40+ degrees and is adjustable just by using your gain knob.  Mine showed up several weeks ago.  It looks pretty....flashy. 
This might be wrong. The transducer will automatically switch over when it gets deeper then 30ft of water. Its a 9-30 degree cone. I have the pro view ducer for my 20 and it automatically switches for me. I cant imagine the gain switch doing 2 jobs at once. (sensitivity and cone angle) I may be wrong though..... 

Re: New Vexilar FLX-28
by on 11/01/2013 3:10 PM | Reply #43 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Re: New Vexilar FLX-28
by on 11/01/2013 3:13 PM | Reply #44 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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walleye009 Said:
fisherman25 Said:
kraftamatic Said:
Anybody buy one yet. Can u only get 9 degree or can you get the 9 or 19 transducer.

Buy one Kraft! 

It comes with the new pro ducer.  That ducer goes from 8 degree to 40+ degrees and is adjustable just by using your gain knob.  Mine showed up several weeks ago.  It looks pretty....flashy. 
This might be wrong. The transducer will automatically switch over when it gets deeper then 30ft of water. Its a 9-30 degree cone. I have the pro view ducer for my 20 and it automatically switches for me. I cant imagine the gain switch doing 2 jobs at once. (sensitivity and cone angle) I may be wrong though..... 

Honestly, you made me do my homework again.  haha 
From my understanding, the proview is totally different in functionality to any other ducer Vexilar makes.  I believe what I said in my previous comment was accurate.  If you watch the video, basically the last minute or two he explains it quite well. 

Let me know if you still disagree, but that's how I understand it. 

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Re: New Vexilar FLX-28
by on 11/01/2013 3:51 PM | Reply #45 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/29/2013
Location: ND
fisherman25 Said:
walleye009 Said:
fisherman25 Said:
kraftamatic Said:
Anybody buy one yet. Can u only get 9 degree or can you get the 9 or 19 transducer.

Buy one Kraft! 

It comes with the new pro ducer.  That ducer goes from 8 degree to 40+ degrees and is adjustable just by using your gain knob.  Mine showed up several weeks ago.  It looks pretty....flashy. 
This might be wrong. The transducer will automatically switch over when it gets deeper then 30ft of water. Its a 9-30 degree cone. I have the pro view ducer for my 20 and it automatically switches for me. I cant imagine the gain switch doing 2 jobs at once. (sensitivity and cone angle) I may be wrong though..... 

Honestly, you made me do my homework again.  haha 
From my understanding, the proview is totally different in functionality to any other ducer Vexilar makes.  I believe what I said in my previous comment was accurate.  If you watch the video, basically the last minute or two he explains it quite well. 

Let me know if you still disagree, but that's how I understand it. 


I called vexilar and my local Scheels store. They both said that the ducer will automatically change the cone angle when they water depth is deeper then 30ft. The gain switch is still only used for sensitivity and interference. Im still confused though cause the video seems to say otherwise..... Who knows, guess I have to buy one and find out how it works ha
Re: New Vexilar FLX-28
by on 11/01/2013 3:57 PM | Reply #46 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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walleye009 Said:
fisherman25 Said:
walleye009 Said:
fisherman25 Said:
kraftamatic Said:
Anybody buy one yet. Can u only get 9 degree or can you get the 9 or 19 transducer.

Buy one Kraft! 

It comes with the new pro ducer.  That ducer goes from 8 degree to 40+ degrees and is adjustable just by using your gain knob.  Mine showed up several weeks ago.  It looks pretty....flashy. 
This might be wrong. The transducer will automatically switch over when it gets deeper then 30ft of water. Its a 9-30 degree cone. I have the pro view ducer for my 20 and it automatically switches for me. I cant imagine the gain switch doing 2 jobs at once. (sensitivity and cone angle) I may be wrong though..... 

Honestly, you made me do my homework again.  haha 
From my understanding, the proview is totally different in functionality to any other ducer Vexilar makes.  I believe what I said in my previous comment was accurate.  If you watch the video, basically the last minute or two he explains it quite well. 

Let me know if you still disagree, but that's how I understand it. 


I called vexilar and my local Scheels store. They both said that the ducer will automatically change the cone angle when they water depth is deeper then 30ft. The gain switch is still only used for sensitivity and interference. Im still confused though cause the video seems to say otherwise..... Who knows, guess I have to buy one and find out how it works ha
If it is how you explain it, I'm pissed at the Vexilar for making this video.  I would have never bought a pro ducer if that's the case.  I would have bought a tri beam.  I guess I'll see how it functions in a few weeks and decide. 

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Re: New Vexilar FLX-28
by on 11/01/2013 4:08 PM | Reply #47 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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The pro view ducer is way better then the tri beam in my honest opinion. I talked to Jason Mitchell at the MN State Fair about it and he said that the fl-18 on up with the pro view ducer is the best set up. He told me "you dont need to buy the 28, the 20 with the pro view ducer is the most practical for most people"
Re: New Vexilar FLX-28
by on 11/01/2013 4:33 PM | Reply #48 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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I don't know anything about the FLX-28 features but to my understanding the Proview iceducer is only a renamed existing 9 degree iceducer...  Maybe there is another newer iceducer with 'Pro' in its name I am not aware of...

Below is a link to a year old or so Vexilar Zenanko video (almost 1/2 hour) going into more detail about iceducers including the Proview, and how gain control affects what is shown on the flasher...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKTIE6xKqGA
Re: New Vexilar FLX-28
by on 11/01/2013 6:55 PM | Reply #49 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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wind knot Said:
I don't know anything about the FLX-28 features but to my understanding the Proview iceducer is only a renamed existing 9 degree iceducer...  Maybe there is another newer iceducer with 'Pro' in its name I am not aware of...

Below is a link to a year old or so Vexilar Zenanko video (almost 1/2 hour) going into more detail about iceducers including the Proview, and how gain control affects what is shown on the flasher...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKTIE6xKqGA
Actually, if you watch the video, the crystals make it different from the old standard 9 degree by the way they can control the sound lobes.    

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Re: New Vexilar FLX-28
by on 11/01/2013 6:57 PM | Reply #50 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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 If you watch the 25 minute video, it does break down the pro ducer quite well.  He again says nothing about an automatic switch of cone angle at a certain depth. 
walleye009 Said:
fisherman25 Said:
walleye009 Said:
fisherman25 Said:
kraftamatic Said:
Anybody buy one yet. Can u only get 9 degree or can you get the 9 or 19 transducer.

Buy one Kraft! 

It comes with the new pro ducer.  That ducer goes from 8 degree to 40+ degrees and is adjustable just by using your gain knob.  Mine showed up several weeks ago.  It looks pretty....flashy. 
This might be wrong. The transducer will automatically switch over when it gets deeper then 30ft of water. Its a 9-30 degree cone. I have the pro view ducer for my 20 and it automatically switches for me. I cant imagine the gain switch doing 2 jobs at once. (sensitivity and cone angle) I may be wrong though..... 

Honestly, you made me do my homework again.  haha 
From my understanding, the proview is totally different in functionality to any other ducer Vexilar makes.  I believe what I said in my previous comment was accurate.  If you watch the video, basically the last minute or two he explains it quite well. 

Let me know if you still disagree, but that's how I understand it. 


I called vexilar and my local Scheels store. They both said that the ducer will automatically change the cone angle when they water depth is deeper then 30ft. The gain switch is still only used for sensitivity and interference. Im still confused though cause the video seems to say otherwise..... Who knows, guess I have to buy one and find out how it works ha


Live hard! Die happy!
Re: New Vexilar FLX-28
by on 11/01/2013 8:48 PM | Reply #51 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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 The Tri-beam looks like it gives the angler more control.  Why would you want to turn your gain up in 8-10 ft of water to open the cone(pro view)?  I want a seperate cone angle adjustment from my gain adjustment.  Just me, I guess.

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Re: New Vexilar FLX-28
by on 11/01/2013 8:55 PM | Reply #52 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Actually the way Zenenko explained it is the opposite I want a transducer to work.  Low gain should widen the angle in shallow water.  Higher gain for deeper water should narrow the cone.  Maybe I am missing something. 
Captain Ahab Said:
 The Tri-beam looks like it gives the angler more control.  Why would you want to turn your gain up in 8-10 ft of water to open the cone(pro view)?  I want a seperate cone angle adjustment from my gain adjustment.  Just me, I guess.


"Diligence is the mother of good luck."

"The constitution only gives people the right to pursue hapiness.  You have to catch it yourself."

"Well done is better than well said."

"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

All by:  Benjamin Franklin

"The solution to any problem - work, love, money, whatever - is to go fishing, and the bigger the problem, the longer the trip should be."

Author: John Gierach

Re: New Vexilar FLX-28
by on 11/01/2013 8:55 PM | Reply #53 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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I could go either way at this point....  I won't know for sure until I use it.  I do fish some deep water and some very hard drops, so either the 8 degree set would be good or the pro turned way down from what I see.  I kind of wish Vex would print some hard literature on each ducer.   I've worked around ultrasonics since I was 19, so I think I would understand the "non sales pitch" literature better.   
Captain Ahab Said:
 The Tri-beam looks like it gives the angler more control.  Why would you want to turn your gain up in 8-10 ft of water to open the cone(pro view)?  I want a seperate cone angle adjustment from my gain adjustment.  Just me, I guess.


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Re: New Vexilar FLX-28
by on 11/01/2013 8:58 PM | Reply #54 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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That sounds like the opposite from what I understood.  Low gain tight beam...high gain wide sound spread..... 
Captain Ahab Said:
Actually the way Zenenko explained it is the opposite I want a transducer to work.  Low gain should widen the angle in shallow water.  Higher gain for deeper water should narrow the cone.  Maybe I am missing something. 
Captain Ahab Said:
 The Tri-beam looks like it gives the angler more control.  Why would you want to turn your gain up in 8-10 ft of water to open the cone(pro view)?  I want a seperate cone angle adjustment from my gain adjustment.  Just me, I guess.




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Re: New Vexilar FLX-28
by on 11/01/2013 9:09 PM | Reply #55 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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If the unit automatically adjusted for depth, I could see the benefit.  I see your technical literature point as I think there is more to the story than Zenenko said.  If you are fishing 40-50 feet, you need to crank up the gain to see anything on the regular setup.  The last thing I want to do is see everybody else's lures and pick up interference from other units(if you widen the cone in deep water by increasing gain).  Gain increase=interference increase in most cases.  I would still like a separate knob for cone angle and for gain.  Or just a switch like the tri-beam.
fisherman25 Said:
I could go either way at this point....  I won't know for sure until I use it.  I do fish some deep water and some very hard drops, so either the 8 degree set would be good or the pro turned way down from what I see.  I kind of wish Vex would print some hard literature on each ducer.   I've worked around ultrasonics since I was 19, so I think I would understand the "non sales pitch" literature better.   
Captain Ahab Said:
 The Tri-beam looks like it gives the angler more control.  Why would you want to turn your gain up in 8-10 ft of water to open the cone(pro view)?  I want a seperate cone angle adjustment from my gain adjustment.  Just me, I guess.




"Diligence is the mother of good luck."

"The constitution only gives people the right to pursue hapiness.  You have to catch it yourself."

"Well done is better than well said."

"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

All by:  Benjamin Franklin

"The solution to any problem - work, love, money, whatever - is to go fishing, and the bigger the problem, the longer the trip should be."

Author: John Gierach

Re: New Vexilar FLX-28
by on 11/01/2013 9:15 PM | Reply #56 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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That is the way I understand it as well.  My argument with that is that you typically have the gain all the way down in shallow water and have it cranked up in deep water to see your lure.  In most cases a guy wants a wide cone in shallow water and a narrow cone in deeper water.  The pro view seems counter-intuitive unless it automatically figures depth in order to make the gain knob more of a cone angle adjustment than a power adjustment. 
fisherman25 Said:
That sounds like the opposite from what I understood.  Low gain tight beam...high gain wide sound spread..... 
Captain Ahab Said:
Actually the way Zenenko explained it is the opposite I want a transducer to work.  Low gain should widen the angle in shallow water.  Higher gain for deeper water should narrow the cone.  Maybe I am missing something. 
Captain Ahab Said:
 The Tri-beam looks like it gives the angler more control.  Why would you want to turn your gain up in 8-10 ft of water to open the cone(pro view)?  I want a seperate cone angle adjustment from my gain adjustment.  Just me, I guess.






"Diligence is the mother of good luck."

"The constitution only gives people the right to pursue hapiness.  You have to catch it yourself."

"Well done is better than well said."

"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

All by:  Benjamin Franklin

"The solution to any problem - work, love, money, whatever - is to go fishing, and the bigger the problem, the longer the trip should be."

Author: John Gierach

Re: New Vexilar FLX-28
by on 11/02/2013 8:29 PM | Reply #57 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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I believe the video says with any of the Vexilar ‘single cone angle’ iceducers (9, 12, or 19), the lobe size can be changed (increased) with the gain control.  As I recall I believe the current Proview iceducer has the same Vexilar part number as the previous 9 degree iceducer as well. 


 


Cabela’s Q and A:


 


Pro View vs 9 Degree - Difference?


The Pro View and 9 Degree ice ducers from Vexilar look very similar, what is the main difference?


Country: United States



 


Answers


Expert


The Vexilar Pro-View Ice Ducer Transducer, item # IK-023034, is a "New" listing for Cabelas.com. Vexilar offers the Ice-Ducer in four beam angles; 19 degree, 12 degree, 9 degree (Pro View), and a switchable tri-beam model with 8, 12 and 20 cone angles. The Pro View is synonymous with 9 degree.


4 days ago


CabelasExpert20


 http://www.cabelas.com/product/VEXILAR-PRO-VIEW-ICE-DUCER-TRANSDUCER/1701914.uts


Re: New Vexilar FLX-28
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