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New Furnace

by -HEd- , Posted to Fishing Buddy on 12/03/2009 2:43 PM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
-HEd-

Joined: 11/30/2007
Location: ND
Little off subject of Outdoors, but my furnace just took a dump on me. Perfect timing.
Any suggestions for a new one? Installers? Name brands? Past experiences good/bad?
It will be heating my house 2400Sq ft and will be fueled by propane. This is my first big "fix" to my house and don't want to get screwed in the wallet, but want to have a good product. I live near larimore, so if you know somebody, shout.

Thanks ahead of time...-Zac

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Re: New Furnace
by dogfacehunter on 12/03/2009 3:50 PM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
dogfacehunter
Joined: 02/23/2009
Location: nd
you will get screwed no matter what you do besides doing it yourself. Is the furnace and old one like the size of a VW bug? If it is a normal/fairly new one, you can do it yourself.

Re: New Furnace
by Hardscrabble on 12/03/2009 3:51 PM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
Hardscrabble
Joined: 10/21/2008
Location: ND
I don't know anybody in the area but when you find somebody you may want to consider a air to air heat pump.  Propane is spendy so anything to help offset the cost will help in the long run.  The heat pump and coil are expensive upfront but it will pay for itself.  I don't know what some of the current out door air running temps. are on some of the new ones, but I would guess it would be around or below 32 degrees.  You may even consider an off peak electric plenum coil too, set the whole system up on off peak if it is availble in your area, and use the propane as a secondary.  Bryant, Lennox, Carrier, and Amana are all good brands.  Stay away from anything with the Goodman name on it.

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Re: New Furnace
by fish-head on 12/03/2009 3:59 PM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
fish-head
Joined: 08/21/2007
Location: ND
Where do you live?
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Re: New Furnace
by lwittmayer on 12/03/2009 4:15 PM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
lwittmayer
Joined: 10/10/2008
Location: ND
fish-head Said:
Where do you live?
hmmmmm.......read his post.  Somewhere near Longitude -97.7 Latitude 47.9. 
 

 

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Re: New Furnace
by Geothermal on 12/03/2009 4:18 PM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
Geothermal
Joined: 07/14/2009
Location: ND
Hardscrabble Said:
I don't know anybody in the area but when you find somebody you may want to consider a air to air heat pump.

Do you have one Hardscrabble ?   I have not been around them but I have heard little good about the air to air heat pumps.. The ground source heat pumps AKA Geothermal  heat pumps are the way to go if your  serious about heat pumps
Re: New Furnace
by Grizzly Bear on 12/03/2009 4:42 PM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
Grizzly Bear
Joined: 03/11/2006
Location: ND

I don't know anyone in your area.  But for general information - many brands are made by the same manufacturer,  Coleman would be the biggest negative.  Go with a 93%Efficiency rating and make sure you have them put in the AC Coil at the same time.  You can then buy the condenser (outside unit) at a later date. 
Re: New Furnace
by fullrut on 12/03/2009 5:52 PM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
fullrut
Joined: 09/28/2005
Location: ND
Give Northstar CoOp out of Cavelier a call and ask for Ron. I just had him install a hanging propane furnace in my shop. He's actually a propane dealer and the furnace is a side line. We bought a shop furnace at work from him about five years ago and he was less than half of what the "heating" places quoted us. While he was installing mine, I overheard him on the phone and he does residential too.
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Re: New Furnace
by fconcolor on 12/03/2009 6:32 PM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
fconcolor
Joined: 03/27/2007
Location: ND
Check out consumer reports for brands.  They did a study of 5000 new furnaces and how reliable they were with in the test group.
top 4 furnaces were American Standard, Rheem, Ruud, Trane  On the bottom were goodman, tempstar and amana
Tons of good info out there If you are staying in your house for more then 5 years start looking at the higher efficiency stuff.
Re: New Furnace
by fish-head on 12/03/2009 7:40 PM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
fish-head
Joined: 08/21/2007
Location: ND
Sorry about skimming your post, I should have read it entirely. Call Chad at Vilandre's and Karen at Custom Aire, they will both quote you a prices and options. One is a friend of mine the other is my sister. You can go with anything from a 84% efficient forced air furnace which we did in my granny's house 2 years ago for $1700. They are both in GF, and reputable. Geothermal wouid be the best, it is a large investment that would pay off if you stay in your home for at least 10-15 years. A friend of mine did it, cost around $15,000 and he loves it.
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Re: New Furnace
by -HEd- on 12/03/2009 7:45 PM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
-HEd-
Joined: 11/30/2007
Location: ND
Thanks for the help and suggestions fellas. Im gonna do some pokin around the GF area tomorrow and try to figure this bad boy out.
Im not to sure about doing it by myself(dogface) becuase i want the intake and exhaust to be up to NFPA standard for new construction and my current, well isnt... and the new would involve some fab to the piping and exterior of my home.
Grizzly, your not the first one today that has told me that, i think the coil is definetly going to happen. Be stupid not too.

I'll look up the air to air heat pump, and try to get some more opinions, professionally. Just got to get this damn thing in before she gets too cold, <60 degrees aint cuttin it for the fam, especially in another month, lol. thanks again guys.

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Re: New Furnace
by Geothermal on 12/03/2009 8:17 PM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
Geothermal
Joined: 07/14/2009
Location: ND
-HEd- Said:

I'll look up the air to air heat pump, and try to get some more opinions, professionally. Just got to get this damn thing in before she gets too cold, <60 degrees aint cuttin it for the fam, especially in another month, lol. thanks again guys.
 HED, I started a Geothermal thread because I didn't want to take over  on this thread,  It is an option you might want to look at if it is feasable  to fix your exsisting system and make it trustworthy to get you through the winter.  My opinion on air to air is that we live to far north for it to be feasable.   Check out all the options and  get second opinions.on what ever you decide on.  Good Luck.
Re: New Furnace
by Hardscrabble on 12/03/2009 9:22 PM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
Hardscrabble
Joined: 10/21/2008
Location: ND
Geothermal Said:
Hardscrabble Said:
I don't know anybody in the area but when you find somebody you may want to consider a air to air heat pump.

Do you have one Hardscrabble ?   I have not been around them but I have heard little good about the air to air heat pumps.. The ground source heat pumps AKA Geothermal  heat pumps are the way to go if your  serious about heat pumps
No I don't have one.  You are right a geothermal heat pump is the way to go.  I do believe there is a greater upfront cost involed thou correct?  The air to air's work better in the southern climates, but there has been some improvements on them lately.  I am no expert on this subject I stricktly stick to the sheet metal end of it nowdays.

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Re: New Furnace
by Geothermal on 12/03/2009 9:33 PM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
Geothermal
Joined: 07/14/2009
Location: ND
Hardscrabble Said:
Geothermal Said:
Hardscrabble Said:
I don't know anybody in the area but when you find somebody you may want to consider a air to air heat pump.

Do you have one Hardscrabble ?   I have not been around them but I have heard little good about the air to air heat pumps.. The ground source heat pumps AKA Geothermal  heat pumps are the way to go if your  serious about heat pumps
No I don't have one.  You are right a geothermal heat pump is the way to go.  I do believe there is a greater upfront cost involed thou correct?  The air to air's work better in the southern climates, but there has been some improvements on them lately.  I am no expert on this subject I stricktly stick to the sheet metal end of it nowdays.


Yep, In the past the air to air have been giving the geothermal heat pumps a black eye in North Dakota just because they don't work this far North, The upfront cost is indeed more but yet worth it in the long run,  I started a Geothermal post  just to see what the reactions would be , Geothermal is way better  than Air to air in this area.
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