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ND official: Horse slaughterhouse unlikely

by cynical , Posted to Fishing Buddy on 12/01/2011 7:55 PM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
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BISMARCK, N.D. — An official with the North Dakota Department of Commerce says it's unlikely that the state will open a horse slaughterhouse after Congress recently lifted a ban on funding horse meat inspections.

Pro-slaughter activists have said they are looking to open a plant soon — possibly in North Dakota.

But John Mittleider with the state commerce department tells the Bismarck Tribune (http://bit.ly/rJ6e4V ) that a study completed last year showed it would not be feasible for North Dakota to operate a horse slaughterhouse.

He says the two-phase study found there were a number of barriers, including legal issues, to building such a facility in the state.

Mittleider says an individual or group could still look into building one
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Re: ND official: Horse slaughterhouse unlikely
by mauserG33-40 on 12/01/2011 8:02 PM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
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That will piss the HSUS off.      There are a lot of horses all over the country that left to starve when they  no longer can do what they are trained to do or are crippled.  This is a humane way to get rid of them.   
 
Re: ND official: Horse slaughterhouse unlikely
by taylorman_55 on 12/01/2011 8:05 PM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
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mauserG33-40 Said:
That will piss the HSUS off.      There are a lot of horses all over the country that left to starve when they  no longer can do what they are trained to do or are crippled.  This is a humane way to get rid of them.   
 
Re: ND official: Horse slaughterhouse unlikely
by Meelosh on 12/01/2011 9:46 PM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
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 Out of curiosity, would this require a feedlot? I would guess that wouldn't help it along either if it requires a feedlot. It's just more profitable to have them in Iowa, Kansas, etc..

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke‎

"The time at which I stand before you is full of interest. The eyes of all nations are fixed on our Republic. The event of the existing crisis will be decisive in the opinion of mankind of the practicability of our federal system of government. Great is the stake placed in our hands; great is the responsibility which must rest upon the people of the United States. Let us realize the importance of the attitude in which we stand before the world. Let us exercise forbearance and firmness. Let us extricate our country from the dangers which surround it and learn wisdom from the lessons they inculcate."


-Andrew Jackson, 2nd Inaugural address, 1833
Re: ND official: Horse slaughterhouse unlikely
by mauserG33-40 on 12/01/2011 9:54 PM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
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Meelosh Said:
 Out of curiosity, would this require a feedlot? I would guess that wouldn't help it along either if it requires a feedlot. It's just more profitable to have them in Iowa, Kansas, etc..

Before the bann on the plants there was feedlots just for horses,   The thin staved out horses where treated for any sickness and where feed a ration  to put weight on them.  A lot of the wild horese were slaughted in those plants and some were put in the feed lot for a while.


But no a feedlot is not required.
 
Re: ND official: Horse slaughterhouse unlikely
by multi-species-angler on 12/01/2011 10:52 PM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
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I'ts funny how some people have no problem with the slow ugly animals taking a 16penny nail to the head and being ground into dinner & fertilizer, but a slightly more "majestic" one with longer eyelashes should just be starved and forgoten about after the kids are bored with it.

I see the same thing with coyotes and wolves, just like cows and horses, the only difference between the two is a hundred pounds.
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Re: ND official: Horse slaughterhouse unlikely
by gst on 12/01/2011 11:09 PM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
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http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/politics/Live-Free-or-Die.html

There is a reality that these people simply do not understand. I would have liked to have taken every unwanted, unusable horse that was left to be treated inhumanely and suffer rather than be slaughtered and dump them all on the lawn at Congress.
 
Re: ND official: Horse slaughterhouse unlikely
by barebackjack on 12/01/2011 11:15 PM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
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 We can finally put worthless hay burners back to use. 99% of them seem to be just for "looking at" anyway!
Re: ND official: Horse slaughterhouse unlikely
by Meelosh on 12/02/2011 08:27 AM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
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I have a freiend who works at a high end horse barn in MN and she says there are folks there GIVING AWAY very well trained horses becaue they can't afford them anymore. Could be an opportunity to obtain a cheap pack horse for you mountain guys.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke‎

"The time at which I stand before you is full of interest. The eyes of all nations are fixed on our Republic. The event of the existing crisis will be decisive in the opinion of mankind of the practicability of our federal system of government. Great is the stake placed in our hands; great is the responsibility which must rest upon the people of the United States. Let us realize the importance of the attitude in which we stand before the world. Let us exercise forbearance and firmness. Let us extricate our country from the dangers which surround it and learn wisdom from the lessons they inculcate."


-Andrew Jackson, 2nd Inaugural address, 1833
Re: ND official: Horse slaughterhouse unlikely
by cynical on 12/02/2011 08:28 AM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
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Emotions rule this topic.   Some just can not bring themselves to understand that old and useless horses should be harvested and used to feed a person or pet instead of suffering and wasting away or worse yet cost money to put down "humanely".  There is a market for horse meat and I don't see why a US citizen can not use their property to supply a market.  
"The only enemy of guns is rust and politicians."
“You can roll manure in powered sugar but it still ain’t a jelly donut”

"The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry."

William F. Buckley, Jr.
"Unarmed helplessness is for sheep and the French."  Ted Nugent
Re: ND official: Horse slaughterhouse unlikely
by Meelosh on 12/02/2011 08:29 AM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
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3XGutshot Said:
Emotions rule this topic.   Some just can not bring themselves to understand that old and useless horses should be harvested and used to feed a person or pet instead of suffering and wasting away or worse yet cost money to put down "humanely".  There is a market for horse meat and I don't see why a US citizen can not use their property to supply a market.  
I know little about this subject. How big of market is it? Is it more pet food or human consumption?

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke‎

"The time at which I stand before you is full of interest. The eyes of all nations are fixed on our Republic. The event of the existing crisis will be decisive in the opinion of mankind of the practicability of our federal system of government. Great is the stake placed in our hands; great is the responsibility which must rest upon the people of the United States. Let us realize the importance of the attitude in which we stand before the world. Let us exercise forbearance and firmness. Let us extricate our country from the dangers which surround it and learn wisdom from the lessons they inculcate."


-Andrew Jackson, 2nd Inaugural address, 1833
Re: ND official: Horse slaughterhouse unlikely
by mauserG33-40 on 12/02/2011 08:32 AM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
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Meelosh Said:
3XGutshot Said:
Emotions rule this topic.   Some just can not bring themselves to understand that old and useless horses should be harvested and used to feed a person or pet instead of suffering and wasting away or worse yet cost money to put down "humanely".  There is a market for horse meat and I don't see why a US citizen can not use their property to supply a market.  
I know little about this subject. How big of market is it? Is it more pet food or human consumption?



Most was exported before and France was a big buyer.
 
Re: ND official: Horse slaughterhouse unlikely
by Meelosh on 12/02/2011 08:41 AM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
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mauserG33-40 Said:
Meelosh Said:
3XGutshot Said:
Emotions rule this topic.   Some just can not bring themselves to understand that old and useless horses should be harvested and used to feed a person or pet instead of suffering and wasting away or worse yet cost money to put down "humanely".  There is a market for horse meat and I don't see why a US citizen can not use their property to supply a market.  
I know little about this subject. How big of market is it? Is it more pet food or human consumption?



Most was exported before and France was a big buyer.
The French? Of course! I should have known. As far as I am concerned they're livestock, just like cows or domestic elk or whatever. Property rights should dictate that they should be able to make a profit on the animal in any legal manner.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke‎

"The time at which I stand before you is full of interest. The eyes of all nations are fixed on our Republic. The event of the existing crisis will be decisive in the opinion of mankind of the practicability of our federal system of government. Great is the stake placed in our hands; great is the responsibility which must rest upon the people of the United States. Let us realize the importance of the attitude in which we stand before the world. Let us exercise forbearance and firmness. Let us extricate our country from the dangers which surround it and learn wisdom from the lessons they inculcate."


-Andrew Jackson, 2nd Inaugural address, 1833
Re: ND official: Horse slaughterhouse unlikely
by gst on 12/02/2011 10:36 AM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
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This country is spending literally millions of dollars each year feeding "wild" horses in that have been removed from BLM lands where they had over populated them in feedlots instead of humanely slaughtering them.
Re: ND official: Horse slaughterhouse unlikely
by bobkat on 12/02/2011 10:58 AM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
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A major market for horsemeat is most of the European countries, if not all.    There are countless shops, like our meat shops that specialize in horse meat.    They've eaten horses over there for centuries.
I've eaten it once - it was good.   A bit like Veal.

When we are trillions in debt and we contiue to pay millions to feed/house/vetcare hundreds of thousands of feral horses from BLM land is one of the most stupid wastes of taxpayers money I can think of, and I know a lot of wasteful programs. 

Round em up, give away as many as you can to good homes, then ship the rest for slaughter - either pet food or human use. 
Re: ND official: Horse slaughterhouse unlikely
by diamondguy81 on 12/02/2011 2:33 PM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
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Ok...I'll chime in with my two cents worth...we have horses, six to be exact we have had as many as 11 at one time...they are a lot of work...feeding, trimming, vaccinating, etc....we are strictly recreational owners, not breeders...for my family, our horses are part of our family...our pets, much like our dogs and cats...I look forward to that nay, or whinny when I step out of the house...or when one of them tries to pull the hose out of the water tank when you're trying to fill it and getting sprayed by the hose as they shake it...or having one of them grab my hat and try to play keep away...they can have quite the personality!...they make our lives whole...we have taken in "rescue" horses over the years, as a matter of fact, two of our current horses are what my wife considers rescue horses because she bought them at the sales ring and rescued them from being bought by a slaughter buyer...I do not condemn, nor condone the practice of selling horses for slaughter...I'm not in denial because it is a reality...but not one I will ever participate in and not one I want outside my front door(meaning in the state of North Dakota)...When the day comes that any of our horses becomes incapacitated, the vet will be called to come put them to sleep...it will be hard, just as it has been when we've had to do the same for any of our dogs, or cats...I cannot bear the thought of some Frenchmen eating one of my pets! Call me a softy, but that's the way it is!
Re: ND official: Horse slaughterhouse unlikely
by svnmag on 12/02/2011 6:07 PM | Reply #16 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
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Re: ND official: Horse slaughterhouse unlikely
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Re: ND official: Horse slaughterhouse unlikely
by nalle on 12/14/2011 08:22 AM | Reply #18 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
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mauserG33-40 Said:
That will piss the HSUS off.      There are a lot of horses all over the country that left to starve when they  no longer can do what they are trained to do or are crippled.  This is a humane way to get rid of them.   

If they cannot be used or are crippled and certainly rather than let them starve, their RESPONSIBLE owners should euthanize them.  Notice I did not say "slaughter" them, because the only humane way to end an equine's life is by euthanasia.  Slaughter and euthanasia are not one and the same.
Re: ND official: Horse slaughterhouse unlikely
by nalle on 12/14/2011 08:23 AM | Reply #19 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
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svnmag Said:
Hmm.  Hmm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enumclaw_horse_sex_case

 

Okay, do your parents know you're on the computer...and shouldn't you be in school with your other 3rd grade classmates????
Re: ND official: Horse slaughterhouse unlikely
by nalle on 12/14/2011 08:55 AM | Reply #20 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
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barebackjack Said:
 We can finally put worthless hay burners back to use. 99% of them seem to be just for "looking at" anyway!
Here's a minute litany of some of the greatest horses of all time:  Phar Lap, Traveller  (Robert E. Lee's horse), Bucephalus (Alexander the Great's horse), Marengo (Napolean's horse), Hollywood Dun It, Byerly Turk, Hickstead, Theodore O'Connor, Totilas, Ahlerich, Ola Gik, Rei Halsnaes, Seattle Slew, Blue Hors Matine, Red Rum, and Ruffian, Regret, and Zenyatta (fillies all).  The list is endless.  All "using" horses, not one just for "looking at." All worth much more and accomplished much more in their equine lives than you or I will ever dream of.  Who's got the market cornered on talent or brains?  Not necessarily the humans.  

And yet, some +++hats would probably think that it would be okay to end any of these magnificent animals' lives in a slaughterhouse.  Pathetic.  
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