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by , Posted to on 07/28/2013 9:59 PM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/16/2007
Location: SD
 Just got my SD deer results today. It look 9 days between the application deadline and the draw results. Anyone who makes excuses for ND Game and Fish being incredibly slow at the same process is insane.
Brady
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by on 07/28/2013 10:07 PM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 03/27/2002
Location: ND
They likely don't do it the same way.  Like does SD only have on line apps.  You can still use paper here and a lot do.  Every one of those paper apps have to be entered manually for one thing. Before we make comparisons we need to know all the facts.
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by on 07/28/2013 10:08 PM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 05/26/2006
Location: ND
 Insane is kind of strong word for such a little matter. 
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by on 07/28/2013 10:21 PM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/16/2007
Location: SD
 
TCRenagade Said:
They likely don't do it the same way.  Like does SD only have on line apps.  You can still use paper here and a lot do.  Every one of those paper apps have to be entered manually for one thing. Before we make comparisons we need to know all the facts.

False SD does have paper apps.
Brady
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by on 07/29/2013 07:50 AM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 04/16/2007
Location: SD
still have paper apps and they have to go through the land owner apps also and verify them
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by on 07/29/2013 07:52 AM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/14/2003
Location: ND
 Probably a lot more simple when doing west river and east river. Or isn't it that simple?  I have never looked I to SD and how they are structured. 




 
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by on 07/29/2013 08:19 AM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/26/2010
Location: SD
Tim Sandstrom Said:
 Probably a lot more simple when doing west river and east river. Or isn't it that simple?  I have never looked I to SD and how they are structured. 


East River is due later. Keep in mind there is also the seperate Black Hills season which is due with west river. One would think with all the seasons down here it would be a bigger undertaking. I grew up in ND so am very familiar with the system. I do like this better down here, opportunity to hunt is far greater. One of the big things down here is instead of the buck tag, you get an any deer or any whitetail tag. The other thing is the preference points, you have a much greater chance of drawing the longer you are in. To the point that say with elk, it used to be 10+ years was a guaranteed bull tag. It's a little longer now that the herd is down, but you still know you will get that tag.
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by on 07/29/2013 08:33 AM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 04/16/2007
Location: SD
huntorride365 Said:
Tim Sandstrom Said:
 Probably a lot more simple when doing west river and east river. Or isn't it that simple?  I have never looked I to SD and how they are structured. 


East River is due later. Keep in mind there is also the seperate Black Hills season which is due with west river. One would think with all the seasons down here it would be a bigger undertaking. I grew up in ND so am very familiar with the system. I do like this better down here, opportunity to hunt is far greater. One of the big things down here is instead of the buck tag, you get an any deer or any whitetail tag. The other thing is the preference points, you have a much greater chance of drawing the longer you are in. To the point that say with elk, it used to be 10+ years was a guaranteed bull tag. It's a little longer now that the herd is down, but you still know you will get that tag.
along with the places like the little moreau park license that is due with west river.  That my friend drew with no preference points

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by on 07/29/2013 08:50 AM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/13/2006
Location: ND
bradyg Said:
 Just got my SD deer results today. It look 9 days between the application deadline and the draw results. Anyone who makes excuses for ND Game and Fish being incredibly slow at the same process is insane.
The smartest thing is the articles that the NDGF publishes on the "Hoax" that slot limits are and then in an article in the next months issue of ND Outdoors you read a list of lakes that have a minimum of 14 inches of walleyes. 

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by on 07/29/2013 08:53 AM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/14/2003
Location: ND
Enslow Said:
bradyg Said:
 Just got my SD deer results today. It look 9 days between the application deadline and the draw results. Anyone who makes excuses for ND Game and Fish being incredibly slow at the same process is insane.
The smartest thing is the articles that the NDGF publishes on the "Hoax" that slot limits are and then in an article in the next months issue of ND Outdoors you read a list of lakes that have a minimum of 14 inches of walleyes. 


Ha.  Come on now, be fair.  For some bodies of water it DOES make sense.  Others, not so much.





 
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by on 07/29/2013 08:54 AM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/14/2003
Location: ND
huntorride365 Said:
Tim Sandstrom Said:
 Probably a lot more simple when doing west river and east river. Or isn't it that simple?  I have never looked I to SD and how they are structured. 


East River is due later. Keep in mind there is also the seperate Black Hills season which is due with west river. One would think with all the seasons down here it would be a bigger undertaking. I grew up in ND so am very familiar with the system. I do like this better down here, opportunity to hunt is far greater. One of the big things down here is instead of the buck tag, you get an any deer or any whitetail tag. The other thing is the preference points, you have a much greater chance of drawing the longer you are in. To the point that say with elk, it used to be 10+ years was a guaranteed bull tag. It's a little longer now that the herd is down, but you still know you will get that tag.
Okay, so it sounds like we aren't comparing apples to apples here?  Are there specific units per east river and west river?

Now I am more confused than I started and when I started I was confused.




 
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Re: ND Game and Fish
by on 07/29/2013 08:55 AM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/26/2010
Location: SD
KurtR Said:
along with the places like the little moreau park license that is due with west river.  That my friend drew with no preference points



Wish I would change old habits and apply for that tag. That little unit is probably one of the best in the state for a trophy whitetail. The key is keeping people from hunting it that don't have the park tag.
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by on 07/29/2013 09:00 AM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/02/2010
Location: SD
Tim Sandstrom Said

Okay, so it sounds like we aren't comparing apples to apples here?  Are there specific units per east river and west river?

Now I am more confused than I started and when I started I was confused.


You have to put in for the unit (county) you want to hunt whether east or west river
http://gfp.sd.gov/hunting/licenses/limited/forms/Deer.pdf




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by on 07/29/2013 09:01 AM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 04/16/2007
Location: SD
huntorride365 Said:
KurtR Said:
along with the places like the little moreau park license that is due with west river.  That my friend drew with no preference points



Wish I would change old habits and apply for that tag. That little unit is probably one of the best in the state for a trophy whitetail. The key is keeping people from hunting it that don't have the park tag.
ya he is pretty pumped should have a good chance at a good one.


Tim every thing is specific units like dewey county is 24a08 which is the any deer tag ( I got that)  then the 24a18 would be any white tail they also have one for antlerless deer.  So each county has its own number and then it is split on how many of each tag along with how many non res tags and landowner tags that are allowed for each one.  Then you have the special buck tag which is good all of west river but only on private land. 

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by on 07/29/2013 09:08 AM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/26/2010
Location: SD
West river and east river, along with black hills are all considered seperate seasons. I can apply to all three with out having any bearing on the other. In other words it's almost like seperate states. East and west river are broken down into smaller units, I think almost always by county. I just drew an any deer plus any antlerless for Corson County (west river). I will draw an any whitetail and a whitetail doe for Walworth (east river). I should draw my any muzzleloader deer this year. I did not apply for black hills deer. I will have an any deer east river bow tag, I will have an any deer west river bow tag. I can buy up to 3 muzzleloader doe tags and 2-3 bow doe tags. Plus I get Standing Rock bow and rifle tags, which is beside the point.
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by on 07/29/2013 09:16 AM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 04/16/2007
Location: SD
huntorride365 Said:
West river and east river, along with black hills are all considered seperate seasons. I can apply to all three with out having any bearing on the other. In other words it's almost like seperate states. East and west river are broken down into smaller units, I think almost always by county. I just drew an any deer plus any antlerless for Corson County (west river). I will draw an any whitetail and a whitetail doe for Walworth (east river). I should draw my any muzzleloader deer this year. I did not apply for black hills deer. I will have an any deer east river bow tag, I will have an any deer west river bow tag. I can buy up to 3 muzzleloader doe tags and 2-3 bow doe tags. Plus I get Standing Rock bow and rifle tags, which is beside the point.
and few years ago we were getting triple tags out west one any and two antlerless.  If you want you can shoot a lot of deer here.  I need to apply for that state wide muzzle loader

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by on 07/29/2013 11:02 AM | Reply #16 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 03/10/2009
Location: ND
I apply in both states and have no idea why the ND process takes so long.  The application processes and unit breakdowns are pretty similar.  There really is no excuse for ND to take 2 months to figure it all out when SD can do it in less than 2 weeks. 

I bow and rifle hunt.  If I draw a rifle buck tag, I will try to take a block of days off of work in mid-November.  However, if I don't draw a buck tag for rifle, I would try to take a block of days off for the first week or so of bow season.  That's 5 weeks away (woo-hoo!).  I can't wait much longer to try blocking that time off and wish the ND Game and Fish would figure the dang thing out already.   
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by on 07/29/2013 11:47 AM | Reply #17 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 03/27/2013
Location: ND
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by on 07/29/2013 12:07 PM | Reply #18 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 05/23/2002
Location: ND

Gratis Tags come out of the total tags allotted to the lottery.

I guess they could do the lottery quicker IF everybody is comfortable with them NOT verifying that gratis applicants are actually eligible for the tags they apply for.  That's probably what takes the most extra time.

Keep in mind that gratis tags aren't actually in the lottery.  They have priority and reduce the remaining tags available.

I would have zero problem with the process going to 100% online applications.  I'm sure there are people who would feel the opposite.

If you fill out a paper application, you are part of the problem and have no valid basis to complain about the time it takes. 

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by on 07/29/2013 1:19 PM | Reply #19 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 03/10/2009
Location: ND
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by on 07/29/2013 1:47 PM | Reply #20 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/12/2008
Location: ND
Not only is SD's turn-around on app results pretty good, but we also have one of the best online licensing sites that I've seen. Some states' app sites are a nightmare (MN would be a prime example), but SD's is about as user friendly as it gets. One of the perks of SD's site is that there are statistics from past drawings, so you can check and see where your best shot of drawing a tag is at.
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