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by , Posted to on 02/07/2012 08:53 AM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/19/2006
Location: ND
So, who's a member??

bismarcktribune.com/news/state-and-regional/north-dakota-farm-bureau-opposing-oil-taxes-for-outdoors/article_27cec7d8-5158-11e1-bede-001871e3ce6c.html

The North Dakota Farm Bureau says it will fight a proposed initiative that would require spending oil tax money on wildlife and conservation projects.
 

The measure would give an appointed nine-member control over almost $90 million a year. The board would get 5 percent of the state's oil tax collections.

 

Farm Bureau President Doyle Johannes says it's too much money to set aside for wildlife and conservation programs.

 

He says those efforts already get a lot of state and federal support.
 

Johannes says the measure would take money away from education and property tax relief.
 

He says the board could take land out of private ownership.

 

Ducks Unlimited regional director Steve Adair is the campaign's chairman. He says it would provide farmers voluntary incentives for land conservation.
 

Re: ND Farm Bureau
by on 02/07/2012 08:55 AM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 04/16/2007
Location: SD
This should be fun
Re: ND Farm Bureau
by on 02/07/2012 08:58 AM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
who in their right mind would be for this.  90 million a year.  that's so far beyond retarded it's insane.  until the western half of the state has things in order nobody else should get a cent from the oil money.  when that's all brought up to a decent standard than by all means spread the wealth.  but they're never going to get 90 million a year for outdoors.  that's a complete pipe dream
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by on 02/07/2012 08:59 AM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: SD
I used to be when I had Nodak Mutual but their extremist hold sportsman hostage for political gain turned me away to another insurance company.  Anybody remember the Swampbusters boycott of hunters in the 80's or the boycott of hunters over haying CRP in the 90's or.... the list is long.  Thank the NDFB for propagating them.
Re: ND Farm Bureau
by on 02/07/2012 09:00 AM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
I really hate how contentious this debate is getting. ND has always been an agriculture state and it is now transitioning to an energy state. But through it all, the ag community and the sportsman community were able to happily coexist with one another. Now, all any group tries to do is gain leverage over the other. Its sickening really how we let such petty things get in the way. Conservation is important and we all have access to the resource. Ag is important for obvious reasons, as is energy. Can we not find a middle ground?

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke

"The time at which I stand before you is full of interest. The eyes of all nations are fixed on our Republic. The event of the existing crisis will be decisive in the opinion of mankind of the practicability of our federal system of government. Great is the stake placed in our hands; great is the responsibility which must rest upon the people of the United States. Let us realize the importance of the attitude in which we stand before the world. Let us exercise forbearance and firmness. Let us extricate our country from the dangers which surround it and learn wisdom from the lessons they inculcate."


-Andrew Jackson, 2nd Inaugural address, 1833
Re: ND Farm Bureau
by on 02/07/2012 09:06 AM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/14/2003
Location: ND
swift Said:
I used to be when I had Nodak Mutual but their extremist hold sportsman hostage for political gain turned me away to another insurance company.  Anybody remember the Swampbusters boycott of hunters in the 80's or the boycott of hunters over haying CRP in the 90's or.... the list is long.  Thank the NDFB for propagating them.

What is the Farmer's Union stance?  Stockman Association's?

Look, spreading around a little money might not hurt but holy smokes, we gotta make sure we take care of other things that are immediate.  There's some big chunks of change and those with blind eyes only see what happens when a feel good easement is signed.

Below is the entire story instead of a nice little "grab gotcha one" linked above.

NDFB opposes using oil tax revenue for conservation

 

North Dakota Farm Bureau has taken action to oppose a proposed constitutional ballot measure to create a special fund for wildlife and conservation programs. The action was taken by the NDFB Board of Directors during its recent meeting in Fargo.

 “Environmental groups want an unrealistic share of the state’s oil revenues each year,” said Doyle Johannes, NDFB president.
 
Funding would be derived from five percent of all oil and gas gross production taxes and oil extraction taxes collected by the state. According to a memorandum prepared by the North Dakota Legislative Council, the fund would generate $175 million each biennium, or $87.5 million per year.
 
“A significant number of these dollars could be dedicated to acquiring wetland and grassland conservation easements,” explained Johannes. “While farmers and ranchers support voluntary land conservation practices, NDFB policy opposes these types of long-term easements. They are detrimental to future landowners.
 
Johannes said a great deal of money is already spent by the federal government and nonprofit wildlife organizations to acquire easements in North Dakota. “Additional money spent on wildlife habitat is simply unnecessary.”
 
The fund would be used to create wildlife and fish habitat on private and public lands, as well as establishadditional parks and other recreation areas.
 
“If the money can be used to purchase land for parks and recreation areas, the state agency and/or political subdivision would have to maintain them,” said Johannes. “How much land should the government own? And how much more taxpayer money should be spent to maintain it?”
 
Grants could also be made to restore and protect rivers, streams, lakes and groundwater.
 
“Wildlife and recreation should not take precedence over agricultural production. Many of these conservation programs limit the ability of farmers and ranchers to manage the adjacent land. Wildlife, recreation and agriculture can all co-exist with sound land management.”
 
The constitutional amendment would establish a water, lands and outdoor heritage fund and create a nine-member governing board.
 
Grants could be made available to state agencies, tribal governments, local governments, political subdivisions and nonprofit organizations.
 
If this measure were to pass, a $175 million reduction would have to come from the property tax relief fund, state disaster relief fund, the strategic investment and improvements fund (most of which has been for roads and western North Dakota infrastructure) or the general fund. 
 
Audio: NDFB Newsline is a new 1:30 weekly audio feature in an mp3 format that highlights current issues of importance to agriculture from a Farm Bureau perspective. This week’s audio features NDFB President Doyle Johannes talking about the proposed constitutional wildlife fund ballot measure

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Re: ND Farm Bureau
by on 02/07/2012 09:46 AM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/09/2002
Location: ND
One thing that I will take issue with to start off the fun is Johannes' incorrect statement of enough federal and state money is already spent on conservation.  Given the decline in wildlife the past few years, the CRP going the way of the dodo bird, and the fact that federal agencies often have had great difficulty in finding local costshare partners to implement conservation (as well as many other programs), he is simply WRONG that there is enough already available.

As to how much is enough, or too much?  That I don't know, a set percentage is not always the way to go as it is often difficult to ramp up projects in time to meet the financial year.  Setting aside a set dollar value is better than a percentage, IMHO.
“Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.” ~ Mark Twain
Re: ND Farm Bureau
by on 02/07/2012 10:05 AM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/14/2003
Location: ND
The NDFB is one entity voicing concern. I am sure many others will also regarding infrastructure, roads, housing, property tax, etc.

Allen,

Are you saying it is ND's responsibility to fix on it's own and fund it's own a failedand severely outdated program that was never directly designed for wildlife?

If so, what happens when the oil extraction taxes decline? We start robbing from the 14 or so trusts oil royalties are going toward which already have dollar homes?

And if we go about fixing a failed and outdated program what do we allot to make it worthwhile?




 
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Re: ND Farm Bureau
by on 02/07/2012 10:07 AM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/14/2003
Location: ND
Don't get me wrong. Funds have merit. Just a bushwhack hurry jobby isn't a good idea.




 
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Re: ND Farm Bureau
by on 02/07/2012 10:10 AM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 03/12/2009
Location: nd
Tim thanks for posting that.

For those of you that wish to polarize this debate, please take note of the comments from the article Tim posted.

"Wildlife, recreation and agriculture can all co-exist with sound land management.”


THAT in a nutshell is what these ag orgs beleive. That in reality is what exists here in ND and has for decades, and will likely continue to even though an ever increasing global population places more demands on food production. That is why these orgs have entities like the Enviromental Services division within them and recognise and support good land stewardship thru progams like our Enviromental Stewardship Awards program. It is why we work closely with the local NRCS offices to encourage an improve management practices that are beneficial to all the above listed entities.  


Also from the article:
"A significant number of these dollars could be dedicated to acquiring wetland and grassland conservation easements,” explained Johannes. “While farmers and ranchers support voluntary land conservation practices, NDFB policy opposes these types of long-term easements. They are detrimental to future landowners."


Put forth conservation programs in a mutually benefitial, single generation, renewable form and see what position these ag orgs take.

Perpetual easements are for a long time.  Who here today knows what will be required from these lands in the future. Who knows what dollars will be avalible to fund long term or perpetual programs?


What good is to be gained by rhetoric bashing ag orgs? As Meelosh stated common ground can and has been found and held thru out the history of this state. It is why we have some of the best opportunities for agriculture, wildife and recreation of any state there is. 

Courteous, honest discussion can go a long ways to continue it, inflamatory rhetoric likely will not.
 
Re: ND Farm Bureau
by on 02/07/2012 10:13 AM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
This always comes up during election years just to keep your mind wondering instead of concentrating on the real issues like the bad roads in the oil field or the outlet to Devils Lake.  Six yrs ago I bought hay from a guy that parpisipated in the irragation program  it was free water and he said he made lots of hay then the program quit. and that was just one source for the excess water.    .  Drain Devilslake and after it get to where it is at an accetpable level shut it off this lawsuit BS is wrong.  how much money has been spent saving that area.  just tell Canada ops.  the roads out west are some of the worst. most were built by muckers and are narrow with large rocks exposed and the state doesn't have enough money to fix them the way they should be fixed.   FB Insurance is a large corp sponsor of a lot of sporting events and that is to help get their ajenda through.   They and all polititions know the votes are out east and that is where they will promote it and it will pass.  the political game goes to where they can get the most for their buck.Ryan Taylor or Heidkamp are all the same also they hit Grandfroks and Fargo Bismarck and to hell with the rest of the state.

The best democrat platform a Republican can stand on it a manure pile

drug test everyone on welfare

have an open season on molesters

Re: ND Farm Bureau
by on 02/07/2012 11:17 AM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: nd
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
Q. What is the North Dakota Clean Water, Lands and Outdoor Heritage constitutional amendment?
A. This measure would use five percent of the state’s oil and gas extraction and production tax revenue to create a fund to sustain the high quality of our natural resources.

Q. What will North Dakotans get from this measure?
A. If passed by voters, this amendment will protect our quality of life in ND by:

 protecting our clean water
 improving natural flood control
 conserving natural areas by creating parks and other recreational areas
 protecting wildlife and fish habitat
 supporting and encouraging beginning farmers and ranches

Q. How will this money be used?
A. North Dakota’s Clean Water, Lands and Outdoor Heritage Fund can be used for grants for a broad set of purposes including protecting and enhancing the state’s water, wildlife and working farms and ranches. Projects authorized by the measure could include improving water quality of rivers, streams, and groundwater; natural flood control improvements; providing habitat for fish, game and wildlife; improved parks and public for outdoor activities; and conservation incentives for working farms and ranches and beginning farmers and ranchers . Any state agency, local government entity, tribal government or non-profit corporation is eligible to submit a grant application for funding by the conservation fund.

Q. Will this increase my taxes? Will this increase anybody else’s taxes?
A. No and no. Oil and gas production in North Dakota is rapidly increasing, and as a result, tax revenues from this source are also rapidly increasing. This measure will take a small portion of the growing tax revenue projected over the coming years. Programs currently funded through oil taxes (water projects, school funding, roads and other energy impacts, local governments) will also see significant additional tax revenue, and the growth in oil tax revenue will generate new money for many other necessary purposes.

Q. Will this increase oil and gas taxes paid by oil companies?
A. No, the level of taxes is set by the legislature and this measure does nothing to either increase or decrease those taxes. This measure takes a small portion of the current oil and gas production and extraction taxes not designated for any other uses and sets those dollars aside to improve our environment—our water and our land.

Q. Will this increase the price I pay for gasoline at the pump?
A. No, as indicated above, this measure does nothing to increase or decrease taxes paid on the production of oil and gas. This measure has no effect on the economics of oil and gas production in North Dakota.

Q. Who decides how it will be spent?
B. The measure creates a nine-member citizen board, which implement a competitive grant program to protect clean water, improve flood control, protect natural areas and wildlife and fish populations and encourage beginning farmers and ranchers in our state. The legislature will appoint four members, the Governor will appoint four members, and the state’s wildlife professionals will appoint one member.

Q. How much money will the measure raise?
A. Predicting future oil production and future oil prices is extremely difficult. However, if we accept the assumptions used by the 2011 North Dakota State Legislature in making plans for the two-year period beginning July 1, 2011, this measure would raise about $50 million annually for conservation programs in North Dakota.

Q. Do we really need this much money for conservation purposes?
A. North Dakota’s clean water and wildlife--critical to our quality of life and tourism economy – are being threatened, and we need to invest more just to protect what we have. Yet, federal funding for agricultural and other conservation programs currently makes up the vast majority of spending for conservation in our state and is likely to decline significantly due to reduced federal spending. Our forests, our water and wildlife habitat are threatened by invasive species such as emerald ash borer, zebra mussels and saltcedar. Many residents are concerned that oil activity threatens the quality of their drinking water. Maintaining what we have in the face of significant new threats will require a serious financial commitment by our state.

Q. Will this measure take money from schools, water development and flood control or property tax relief?
A. No, this measure contains specific language protecting that current distribution of the oil and gas tax to ensure that no funds are taken from important state programs such as water development, education and local government in the counties affected by energy development. This biennium, state oil and gas revenues are projected to bring over $2 billion into state coffers. All experts see those dollars going up. We are only talking about using a small portion – five percent – for conservation. North Dakota’s budget is in the enviable position of having growing amounts of tax revenues available for already established priorities while still being able to establish new priorities such as protecting our water and our land.


Q. Why amend the constitution for this measure?
A. North Dakota has a long history of amendments to the constitution by the citizens of the state. Since statehood, citizens have initiated constitutional measures to change the constitution forty-five times. Just since 1990, the state’s voters have approved twenty-six changes to the constitution. For example, in 2000, voters amended the constitution to identify hunting, fishing and trapping as “a valued part of our heritage.” North Dakota is at a pivotal moment when we must make a decision to invest in maintaining the high quality of our natural resources. North Dakota state government has not addressed this critical issue, and so the citizens must act. A constitutional measure will ensure that these funds are used for this purpose and that the will of the voters is followed.


Q. How can we be certain that the money this measure generates for natural resources will be managed in a common-sense, fiscally responsible manner?
A. This measure requires that the State Auditor review the fiscal operations of the fund and that these findings be reported to the citizens when the state legislature meets every other year. The measure requires that all project funds be spent in North Dakota to benefit North Dakota’s natural resources. Finally, the measure caps how much money can be spent on administrative overhead


Also to read the actual wording of the ammendment see page 6 of this link.

http://legacy.inforum.com/pdfs/oilwater.pdf

Couple things to note...line 2-e and line 8.

 
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Sorry, amendment starts on page 5.
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by on 02/07/2012 11:33 AM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
eklindworth Said:
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
Q. What is the North Dakota Clean Water, Lands and Outdoor Heritage constitutional amendment?
A. This measure would use five percent of the state’s oil and gas extraction and production tax revenue to create a fund to sustain the high quality of our natural resources.

Q. What will North Dakotans get from this measure?
A. If passed by voters, this amendment will protect our quality of life in ND by:

 protecting our clean water
 improving natural flood control
 conserving natural areas by creating parks and other recreational areas
 protecting wildlife and fish habitat
 supporting and encouraging beginning farmers and ranches

Q. How will this money be used?
A. North Dakota’s Clean Water, Lands and Outdoor Heritage Fund can be used for grants for a broad set of purposes including protecting and enhancing the state’s water, wildlife and working farms and ranches. Projects authorized by the measure could include improving water quality of rivers, streams, and groundwater; natural flood control improvements; providing habitat for fish, game and wildlife; improved parks and public for outdoor activities; and conservation incentives for working farms and ranches and beginning farmers and ranchers . Any state agency, local government entity, tribal government or non-profit corporation is eligible to submit a grant application for funding by the conservation fund.

Q. Will this increase my taxes? Will this increase anybody else’s taxes?
A. No and no. Oil and gas production in North Dakota is rapidly increasing, and as a result, tax revenues from this source are also rapidly increasing. This measure will take a small portion of the growing tax revenue projected over the coming years. Programs currently funded through oil taxes (water projects, school funding, roads and other energy impacts, local governments) will also see significant additional tax revenue, and the growth in oil tax revenue will generate new money for many other necessary purposes.

Q. Will this increase oil and gas taxes paid by oil companies?
A. No, the level of taxes is set by the legislature and this measure does nothing to either increase or decrease those taxes. This measure takes a small portion of the current oil and gas production and extraction taxes not designated for any other uses and sets those dollars aside to improve our environment—our water and our land.

Q. Will this increase the price I pay for gasoline at the pump?
A. No, as indicated above, this measure does nothing to increase or decrease taxes paid on the production of oil and gas. This measure has no effect on the economics of oil and gas production in North Dakota.

Q. Who decides how it will be spent?
B. The measure creates a nine-member citizen board, which implement a competitive grant program to protect clean water, improve flood control, protect natural areas and wildlife and fish populations and encourage beginning farmers and ranchers in our state. The legislature will appoint four members, the Governor will appoint four members, and the state’s wildlife professionals will appoint one member.

Q. How much money will the measure raise?
A. Predicting future oil production and future oil prices is extremely difficult. However, if we accept the assumptions used by the 2011 North Dakota State Legislature in making plans for the two-year period beginning July 1, 2011, this measure would raise about $50 million annually for conservation programs in North Dakota.

Q. Do we really need this much money for conservation purposes?
A. North Dakota’s clean water and wildlife--critical to our quality of life and tourism economy – are being threatened, and we need to invest more just to protect what we have. Yet, federal funding for agricultural and other conservation programs currently makes up the vast majority of spending for conservation in our state and is likely to decline significantly due to reduced federal spending. Our forests, our water and wildlife habitat are threatened by invasive species such as emerald ash borer, zebra mussels and saltcedar. Many residents are concerned that oil activity threatens the quality of their drinking water. Maintaining what we have in the face of significant new threats will require a serious financial commitment by our state.

Q. Will this measure take money from schools, water development and flood control or property tax relief?
A. No, this measure contains specific language protecting that current distribution of the oil and gas tax to ensure that no funds are taken from important state programs such as water development, education and local government in the counties affected by energy development. This biennium, state oil and gas revenues are projected to bring over $2 billion into state coffers. All experts see those dollars going up. We are only talking about using a small portion – five percent – for conservation. North Dakota’s budget is in the enviable position of having growing amounts of tax revenues available for already established priorities while still being able to establish new priorities such as protecting our water and our land.


Q. Why amend the constitution for this measure?
A. North Dakota has a long history of amendments to the constitution by the citizens of the state. Since statehood, citizens have initiated constitutional measures to change the constitution forty-five times. Just since 1990, the state’s voters have approved twenty-six changes to the constitution. For example, in 2000, voters amended the constitution to identify hunting, fishing and trapping as “a valued part of our heritage.” North Dakota is at a pivotal moment when we must make a decision to invest in maintaining the high quality of our natural resources. North Dakota state government has not addressed this critical issue, and so the citizens must act. A constitutional measure will ensure that these funds are used for this purpose and that the will of the voters is followed.


Q. How can we be certain that the money this measure generates for natural resources will be managed in a common-sense, fiscally responsible manner?
A. This measure requires that the State Auditor review the fiscal operations of the fund and that these findings be reported to the citizens when the state legislature meets every other year. The measure requires that all project funds be spent in North Dakota to benefit North Dakota’s natural resources. Finally, the measure caps how much money can be spent on administrative overhead


Also to read the actual wording of the ammendment see page 6 of this link.

http://legacy.inforum.com/pdfs/oilwater.pdf

Couple things to note...line 2-e and line 8.

 
The bottom one (supporting and encouraging beginning farmers and ranchers) is a deal breaker.  They already have tons of programs for those types of people.  why the hell would you take money earmarked for wildlife programs and do this with it.  It's also very vague and the money could be used for lots of stuff it's not intended for.  Why not make the money available to any person starting any type of business.  why discriminate? 

Re: ND Farm Bureau
by on 02/07/2012 11:48 AM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/13/2006
Location: ND
I know who won't decide how any of the money gets spent, people on Fishingbuddy.  Why waste our time even worrying about it?
Re: ND Farm Bureau
by on 02/07/2012 11:52 AM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/09/2002
Location: ND
Tim Sandstrom Said:
Allen,

Are you saying it is ND's responsibility to fix on it's own and fund it's own a failedand severely outdated program that was never directly designed for wildlife?


Uhh, no.  What I am saying is that this oil development has impacts.  Those impacts are not limited to roads and other public infrastructure, it does indeed include wildlife and other public amenities.  Hence, I support use of oil extraction tax money to help fund projects that can help alleviate those impacts, and that can be done statewide IMHO.

Not sure why anyone would say that CRP has never been intended to benefit wildlife.  It has been listed as a benefit (not a requirement though because requirements have to be measurable) of the program from as early as I can remember.  It's one of the reasons so many conservation groups have tended to support CRP.  Pretty sure support for CRP would have been less over the years if it was claimed to have detrimental effects on wildlife.
“Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.” ~ Mark Twain
Re: ND Farm Bureau
by on 02/07/2012 12:26 PM | Reply #16 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/13/2003
Location: ND
Tim Sandstrom Said:
swift Said:
I used to be when I had Nodak Mutual but their extremist hold sportsman hostage for political gain turned me away to another insurance company.  Anybody remember the Swampbusters boycott of hunters in the 80's or the boycott of hunters over haying CRP in the 90's or.... the list is long.  Thank the NDFB for propagating them.

What is the Farmer's Union stance?  Stockman Association's?

Look, spreading around a little money might not hurt but holy smokes, we gotta make sure we take care of other things that are immediate.  There's some big chunks of change and those with blind eyes only see what happens when a feel good easement is signed.

Below is the entire story instead of a nice little "grab gotcha one" linked above.

NDFB opposes using oil tax revenue for conservation

 

North Dakota Farm Bureau has taken action to oppose a proposed constitutional ballot measure to create a special fund for wildlife and conservation programs. The action was taken by the NDFB Board of Directors during its recent meeting in Fargo.

 “Environmental groups want an unrealistic share of the state’s oil revenues each year,” said Doyle Johannes, NDFB president.

5% is unrealistic?
 
 
Funding would be derived from five percent of all oil and gas gross production taxes and oil extraction taxes collected by the state. According to a memorandum prepared by the North Dakota Legislative Council, the fund would generate $175 million each biennium, or $87.5 million per year.
 
“A significant number of these dollars could be dedicated to acquiring wetland and grassland conservation easements,” explained Johannes. “While farmers and ranchers support voluntary land conservation practices, NDFB policy opposes these types of long-term easements. They are detrimental to future landowners.
 
Johannes said a great deal of money is already spent by the federal government and nonprofit wildlife organizations to acquire easements in North Dakota. “Additional money spent on wildlife habitat is simply unnecessary.”

How much money is actually spent on wildlife habitat? Not CRP or some other ag program, but actual wildlife conservation programs.
 
 
The fund would be used to create wildlife and fish habitat on private and public lands, as well as establishadditional parks and other recreation areas.
 
“If the money can be used to purchase land for parks and recreation areas, the state agency and/or political subdivision would have to maintain them,” said Johannes. “How much land should the government own? And how much more taxpayer money should be spent to maintain it?”

How much is the ag industry getting in subsidies, cheap grazing leases, disaster payments, etc.? How much more taxpayer money should be spent on that???
 
 
Grants could also be made to restore and protect rivers, streams, lakes and groundwater.
 
“Wildlife and recreation should not take precedence over agricultural production. Many of these conservation programs limit the ability of farmers and ranchers to manage the adjacent land. Wildlife, recreation and agriculture can all co-exist with sound land management.”

The problem is there is becoming less and less of "sound land management" and more of "get the money while we can" in most industries like ag and energy. Just look at most of ND right now, it's becoming a baren wasteland, but as long as we can grow corn on it 4 or 5 months out of the year so be it. The hell with wildlife!
 
The constitutional amendment would establish a water, lands and outdoor heritage fund and create a nine-member governing board.
 
Grants could be made available to state agencies, tribal governments, local governments, political subdivisions and nonprofit organizations.
 
If this measure were to pass, a $175 million reduction would have to come from the property tax relief fund, state disaster relief fund, the strategic investment and improvements fund (most of which has been for roads and western North Dakota infrastructure) or the general fund. 
 
Audio: NDFB Newsline is a new 1:30 weekly audio feature in an mp3 format that highlights current issues of importance to agriculture from a Farm Bureau perspective. This week’s audio features NDFB President Doyle Johannes talking about the proposed constitutional wildlife fund ballot measure

Related Downloads

Re: ND Farm Bureau
by on 02/07/2012 2:44 PM | Reply #17 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: SD
What good is to be gained by rhetoric bashing ag orgs? As Meelosh stated common ground can and has been found and held thru out the history of this state. It is why we have some of the best opportunities for agriculture, wildife and recreation of any state there is.

Why is opposing a view of an organization known as ag bashing?   Isn't it the right of everyone to have an opinion and sometimes those opinions are in opposition.  The very idea that questioning the opinion of anybody or any organization is bashing that organization is truely elitism. 

I have been very vocal against many of the ideas, resolutions and policies of the NDFB.  I researched the organization.  Read their own documents and formed my opinion based on their own printed documents.  If opposing many of the NDFB's ideas that directly negatively impacts my own life is bashing; then guilty as charged.
Re: ND Farm Bureau
by on 02/07/2012 4:55 PM | Reply #18 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
I am undecided on this measure, but a couple of things that I do know is that in regards to how the money would be spent. I do believe that the general consensus is that projects chosen would or should not need perpetual monies. Maybe a short period but not long term indefinite.

There are some species that when it comes available critical habitat should be purchased and protected to maintain them. Our state will never do this with general fund dollars nor with G&F dollars.

It is my belief that the main reason the NDFB is opposed to this is the fear of competition for such lands by non farmers. Because I think they know that when the lawsuits are done, the current Corp farm rules are toast!

But at least this group put forward a clear and precise plan and use and included it in the measure instead of a smoke and mirror measure that the opposing group has put forward! So when looking at the group in opposition, it is also important to look at their history in regards to support of Conservation and hunters as well!
In my lifetime I have seen fence row to fence row farming and the return of CRP and game to the landscape.Now we face again the prosepect of fence row to fence row again! Sportsman are our own worst enemy in that we fail to look forward and focus to much on the now!
Re: ND Farm Bureau
by on 02/07/2012 5:04 PM | Reply #19 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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swift Said:
What good is to be gained by rhetoric bashing ag orgs? As Meelosh stated common ground can and has been found and held thru out the history of this state. It is why we have some of the best opportunities for agriculture, wildife and recreation of any state there is.

Why is opposing a view of an organization known as ag bashing?   Isn't it the right of everyone to have an opinion and sometimes those opinions are in opposition.  The very idea that questioning the opinion of anybody or any organization is bashing that organization is truely elitism. 

I have been very vocal against many of the ideas, resolutions and policies of the NDFB.  I researched the organization.  Read their own documents and formed my opinion based on their own printed documents.  If opposing many of the NDFB's ideas that directly negatively impacts my own life is bashing; then guilty as charged.
 
 
Re: ND Farm Bureau
by on 02/07/2012 9:21 PM | Reply #20 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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swift Said:
What good is to be gained by rhetoric bashing ag orgs? As Meelosh stated common ground can and has been found and held thru out the history of this state. It is why we have some of the best opportunities for agriculture, wildife and recreation of any state there is.

Why is opposing a view of an organization known as ag bashing?   Isn't it the right of everyone to have an opinion and sometimes those opinions are in opposition.  The very idea that questioning the opinion of anybody or any organization is bashing that organization is truely elitism. 

I have been very vocal against many of the ideas, resolutions and policies of the NDFB.  I researched the organization.  Read their own documents and formed my opinion based on their own printed documents.  If opposing many of the NDFB's ideas that directly negatively impacts my own life is bashing; then guilty as charged.
swift do I really have to post your statements from Nodak to show examples of what most reasonable people would consider "ag bashing"???

I have no problem with people disagreeing in a courteous manner. But if examples are needed of "ag bashing" I am sure they can be provided
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Disagreeing does not equate to "ag bashing", it is how those disagreements are worded that does.
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 I would hope on this site  we could maintain a conversation without the rhetoric shown on Nodak. So please swift, do not give reason to drag what is said on that site over here.
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