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I was just wondering why our ND Game and Fish Department doesn't post reports like the SD Game and Fish does.  For instance, you can look up each individual lake and see the netting results.  This is configured into nice graphs from year to year, as well as the sizes.  They also do it for fish species.  It seems like a great tool for the average fisherman to choose a lake to go to, depending on the species he or she is looking for.  I did contact them about 2 or 3 years ago, and they had no idea SD was doing this.  I suggested to them, that I use it all the time when I look for a lake to fish, and was hoping they also could do something like this.  Can anyone give me a good reason why it isn't done in our state?

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Id be against it. The small lakes that are good. but yet well kept secrets would now be easily found by any idiot with a computor. I say let the lazy find their own fish..

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I often wonder why other states DNR's don't do many of the things our NDGF does.

Point being we aren't SD, nor anywhere else.  We just aren't accustomed to seeing such items on the front page of NDGF's website.

I bet if you go looking around for their scientific reports on year classes you will find the info you seek.  If nothing else you can always call them and ask to be pointed in the right direction.  And, if you ask them they may see a benefit to adding such a dataset to their website.

“Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.” ~ Mark Twain

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Perhaps we can also ask them what feilds they saw the most deer in when they did the deer counts.It would also be helpful to give buck doe ratios. Also post what feilds the bigger than average bucks were in. I dont feel it is their job to guide us in our fishing or hunting.

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If you call any of the fisheries biologists they will give you the info or direct you to the right person.

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BX2 Said:
Id be against it. The small lakes that are good. but yet well kept secrets would now be easily found by any idiot with a computor. I say let the lazy find their own fish..

Truer words have not been spoken young grasshoppa. I agree 100%.

 "Play it Mr.Toot"

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I agree to some extent BX2.  I have seen many of lakes fished out before, and it is a horrible feeling when "your" hot spot gets wiped out.  However, it is nice to see growth, or lack there of in the lakes that we put our money into stocking.  Its nice to be able to look at the graphs.  Also just because a graph says that there are aboundance of yellow perch in lake "A" doesnt mean they are there to be had.  Sometimes you actually have to put time and effort into these lakes to get them to bite.  I have fished these supposedly hot lakes according to the graph, and funny thing is, I was the only one out there for 5 days straight.  So I don't think they are used as badly as you think.  I just found it nice info that is all.  Respect your opinion though, and completely understand it.

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Also I just wanted to say this as a dad.  If I am taking my kids out fishing, I would really love to know where my best chance of creating other fishing buddies would be.  It would be really sad to get them out and find they hate fishing because its boring.  I think we all have been there.  Also one more thing, what is the Game and Fish's job.  To promote fishing or to create secret hiding spots noone knows about?  Again I agree 100% with your theories, but what is their thinking.  Really i don't know? 

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They do promote fishing...a lot! They put out lists of lakes and stocking reports annually and highlight different bodies of water in their magazine, in the paper, and online all the time. They don't make a secret about what lakes have fish and what lakes offer great opportunities.

I don't think they need to bait your hook and tell you where to cast your line to fulfill the requirement of promoting fishing.

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Nobody ever said anything about baiting a hook, I just don't understand why it can't be accessable year round.  I just thought it was a very nice tool to see, that is all ("the graphs").  Was hoping someone would give me some reason why our game and fish  doesn't do this.  Just thought it was very useful.  If there is something our there to see different results year to year, I guess I missed out on the memo.   Again, i understand where your coming from as well.

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Baitcaster, I would recommend subscribing to there magazine. That is where you'll find the info you are looking for. Its called North Dakota Outdoors. Every spring of the year they give a report on all the test netting results region by region with the size of the fish and numbers in each body of water along with stocking numbers every year. Also every spring Dakota Country Mag has a spring fishing edition that interveiws the Fishery guy at both the ND & SD depts. and they spill the beans on the lakes that they think will be good that year. Honestly though the lakes that I have had the best luck at are rarely the ones the G&F point out as having huge numbers in test nets. The best thing to do is get out and fish one of the many smaller lakes in ND. They IMO really seem to be neglected by the hard core fisherman. Even on the weekends these little lakes hardly have a soul on them making the fish eager to bite due to little or no fishing pressure. What part of the state are you from?

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Go to the Game and Fish website and find the ND Outdoors section and find the magazine from last spring with the fishing outlook report.  That will tell you all you are asking.

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"If you call any of the fisheries biologists they will give you the info or direct you to the right person". ----- that is correct ---- however were all paying for the surveys etc.   I think the g&f could give some specific details to the public on the website and not in "general" .  

Stay thirsty my friends

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As Elvis said they do have this info on their web site you just have to look for it as you would on any site. I found it on their. Its not in a graph form but its on there.

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So it sounds like all the information is available, just not the same format as you would like baitcaster?

Have you talked to them lately? Maybe they weighed the costs vs. benefits when you talked to them last and it was not justifiable.

You can't aim a duck to death.

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IntroC -  I want to review the creel survey done last summer on akaline lake, kidder county ----- if all this information is on the web site ---- -show us the link

Stay thirsty my friends

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Do you really need to be spoon fed everything?

The Alkaline Lake creel survey is still ongoing. They are not going to sit and update their website everytime someone completes a survey.

http://gf.nd.gov/multimedia/news/2008/05/080514.html

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Steve - what was that - ----   thats a news article is what that is.   Come on lets get with the program.

http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/lakefind/showreport.html?downum=03050000

Stay thirsty my friends

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Thanks for the info guys.  Appreciate it. 

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Call and ask if they will email it to you.