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Mr. Heater-Little Buddy Problems

by , Posted to on 12/21/2011 11:02 AM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/07/2005
Location: ND
I have a Mr. Heater, Little Buddy (the single bottle, single tank model) heater that is supposedly able to be connected to a bulk propane tank.  I bought the Mr. Heater hose and filter they recommended but when I try to run the heater I can either not get it to light at all, or if I do, it only burns for about 5 mins then it turns itself off.  It runs just fine with the disposable 1 lb tank.  I know it is not the oxygen sensor that is the problem.  Any suggestions or has anyone else had a similar problem? 

Thanks.
Re: Mr. Heater-Little Buddy Problems
by on 12/21/2011 11:11 AM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/01/2008
Location: ND
fuzz-e-grub Said:
I have a Mr. Heater, Little Buddy (the single bottle, single tank model) heater that is supposedly able to be connected to a bulk propane tank.  I bought the Mr. Heater hose and filter they recommended but when I try to run the heater I can either not get it to light at all, or if I do, it only burns for about 5 mins then it turns itself off.  It runs just fine with the disposable 1 lb tank.  I know it is not the oxygen sensor that is the problem.  Any suggestions or has anyone else had a similar problem? 

Thanks.
Make sure you bought the right hose.  They make a few different types.  If that's not the problem, take the hose back and get a new one.

"Diligence is the mother of good luck."

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Author: John Gierach

Re: Mr. Heater-Little Buddy Problems
by on 12/21/2011 11:12 AM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/01/2002
Location: ND
My friend and I both have Big buddies and have the exact same problem with ours. I took mine back and exchanged it only to have the new one do the same thing.
Re: Mr. Heater-Little Buddy Problems
by on 12/21/2011 11:13 AM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/01/2008
Location: ND
My father-in-law bought the wrong hose for my dad's big buddy I gave him for x-mas last year so I had to buy the right one for him(he picked up the gift for me).  Anybody want to buy a non-big buddy hose?

"Diligence is the mother of good luck."

"The constitution only gives people the right to pursue hapiness.  You have to catch it yourself."

"Well done is better than well said."

"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

All by:  Benjamin Franklin

"The solution to any problem - work, love, money, whatever - is to go fishing, and the bigger the problem, the longer the trip should be."

Author: John Gierach

Re: Mr. Heater-Little Buddy Problems
by on 12/21/2011 11:15 AM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/01/2008
Location: ND
You need the hose that has the regulator and the quick attach for the big buddy.  The little buddy just needs a strait hook up hose becaus there is only one burner.

"Diligence is the mother of good luck."

"The constitution only gives people the right to pursue hapiness.  You have to catch it yourself."

"Well done is better than well said."

"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

All by:  Benjamin Franklin

"The solution to any problem - work, love, money, whatever - is to go fishing, and the bigger the problem, the longer the trip should be."

Author: John Gierach

Re: Mr. Heater-Little Buddy Problems
by on 12/21/2011 11:21 AM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 05/04/2007
Location: ND

Every once in a while the same thing happens to me - even to my sunflower that I use with one of those lb tank converter hoses like you're using.

It's the same "syndrome" as with the regulator on my gas grill at home. I have to turn the gas valve off on the tank, unhook the hose, let it sit for 5 minutes... then attach again and SLOWLY open the valve on the tank. I think it has something to do with the safety valve inside the propane tank. It needs to see backpressure or it assumes you've simply cracked the tank open to the air, so some sort of safety mechanism halts the flow.

The hose/tank isn't supplying enough to keep the temp monitor hot - so it shuts down after a few minutes. It's a PAIN!!!!

Just Googled it - this is from a web site discussing the issue:

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I can't get any heat out of my gas grill burner. Even when I turn the gas grill on high, I still only get a tiny flame. What's wrong?

Your gas grill is operating in low flow mode. Low flow mode is a safety feature activated when the regulator thinks there is a propane leak somewhere in your gas grill.

To correct the problem, double check that the propane hose has been attached to the stove with a wrench, not just finger tight. Confirm that all control knobs are turned to the "off" position.

Remove the hose from the propane tank and wait approximately 30 seconds to reset the regulator. Reconnect the hose to the propane tank on your gas grill and slowly turn the propane tank on, allowing the propane to fill the stove manifold.

Next, turn the control knob to "warm" and relight the burner on your gas grill. After the burner has been lit, turn the propane tank on fully. If you still have a low flame, you may have a propane leak."

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Re: Mr. Heater-Little Buddy Problems
by on 12/21/2011 11:27 AM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/07/2005
Location: ND
I have had the heater and the hose for 5 or 6 years now so returning it is out of the question.  I bought the hose from Cabela's and it was advertised as the correct hose for the Little Buddy.  That is frustrating when you get it an it still doesn't work.  Now I wonder how I will know that the next one I buy that is supposedly for the Little Buddy is actually the correct one. 
Re: Mr. Heater-Little Buddy Problems
by on 12/21/2011 11:35 AM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/06/2002
Location: ND
Pushing in as you turn the hose in will help! Have a couple of these heaters in different sizes and if the tank connection is not perfect the gas flow is not enough to run the pilot. Takes numerous attempts on mine but once hooked up it works great! Remember these units are designed to not have fires and poor connections lead to fires!
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Re: Mr. Heater-Little Buddy Problems
by on 12/21/2011 12:21 PM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/22/2003
Location: ND
guywhofishes Said:

Every once in a while the same thing happens to me - even to my sunflower that I use with one of those lb tank converter hoses like you're using.

It's the same "syndrome" as with the regulator on my gas grill at home. I have to turn the gas valve off on the tank, unhook the hose, let it sit for 5 minutes... then attach again and SLOWLY open the valve on the tank. I think it has something to do with the safety valve inside the propane tank. It needs to see backpressure or it assumes you've simply cracked the tank open to the air, so some sort of safety mechanism halts the flow.

The hose/tank isn't supplying enough to keep the temp monitor hot - so it shuts down after a few minutes. It's a PAIN!!!!

Just Googled it - this is from a web site discussing the issue:

****************************************************

I can't get any heat out of my gas grill burner. Even when I turn the gas grill on high, I still only get a tiny flame. What's wrong?

Your gas grill is operating in low flow mode. Low flow mode is a safety feature activated when the regulator thinks there is a propane leak somewhere in your gas grill.

To correct the problem, double check that the propane hose has been attached to the stove with a wrench, not just finger tight. Confirm that all control knobs are turned to the "off" position.

Remove the hose from the propane tank and wait approximately 30 seconds to reset the regulator. Reconnect the hose to the propane tank on your gas grill and slowly turn the propane tank on, allowing the propane to fill the stove manifold.

Next, turn the control knob to "warm" and relight the burner on your gas grill. After the burner has been lit, turn the propane tank on fully. If you still have a low flame, you may have a propane leak."

This is what the problem is, or the tank might be a little overful.  If you have another 20# tank try it, and see if the problem is still there.

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Re: Mr. Heater-Little Buddy Problems
by on 12/21/2011 1:11 PM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/22/2010
Location: nd
MINE IS THE SAME....THE DOUBLE BUDDY FOR 6 YEARS.... I RUN MINE OFF A 20LBS TANK, ONE SIDE ONLY WORK WHEN I HOOK IT UP.....BUT BOTTLES WORK FINE....GOTTA  LOOSEN UP SEAL IN IGNITER BUTTUN IF ITS COLD. .WORK IT AROUND A LITTLE BEFORE YOU TRY TO START.THEN HOLD BUTTON DOWN FOR 2 MINUTES.. THEY DONT LIKE MOISTURE.... IF THAT DONT WORK TAKE  A BIC  GRILL LONG LIGHTER  AND TAKE GRILL OFF  FRONT ,STICK IT  DOWN THERE BY IGNIGHTER. AFTER HOLDIN BUTTON FOR AT LEAST A MINUTE.THEN TRY TO LIGHT WITH LIGHTER, AND KEEP HOLDIN GAS BUTTON DOWN.DONT LET THAT UNIT GET COLD... THEY SUCK TO LIGHT IF YOU LET GET COLD...MOISTURE ON IGNITER EVEN COLD MAKES IT A SUCKER TO LIGHT....IVE BECAME ONE WITH MINE, BUT SHE STILL ACTS UP EVERY NOW AND THEN.
Re: Mr. Heater-Little Buddy Problems
by on 12/21/2011 1:22 PM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/26/2010
Location: nd
I've had plenty of issue starting my big buddy too off the 20# tank. I just have a regular hose, no regulator. Just takes forever to get the air out of the line when you first hook up. The nice thing about the big buddy is that I just start it on a 1# cylinder on one side and that gives the hose time to purge. After five minutes I just unscrew the small cylinder. The old sunflowers were much easier, but the buddy is nice.
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Re: Mr. Heater-Little Buddy Problems
by on 12/21/2011 1:39 PM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
T-ROY Said:
MINE IS THE SAME....THE DOUBLE BUDDY FOR 6 YEARS.... I RUN MINE OFF A 20LBS TANK, ONE SIDE ONLY WORK WHEN I HOOK IT UP.....BUT BOTTLES WORK FINE....GOTTA  LOOSEN UP SEAL IN IGNITER BUTTUN IF ITS COLD. .WORK IT AROUND A LITTLE BEFORE YOU TRY TO START.THEN HOLD BUTTON DOWN FOR 2 MINUTES.. THEY DONT LIKE MOISTURE.... IF THAT DONT WORK TAKE  A BIC  GRILL LONG LIGHTER  AND TAKE GRILL OFF  FRONT ,STICK IT  DOWN THERE BY IGNIGHTER. AFTER HOLDIN BUTTON FOR AT LEAST A MINUTE.THEN TRY TO LIGHT WITH LIGHTER, AND KEEP HOLDIN GAS BUTTON DOWN.DONT LET THAT UNIT GET COLD... THEY SUCK TO LIGHT IF YOU LET GET COLD...MOISTURE ON IGNITER EVEN COLD MAKES IT A SUCKER TO LIGHT....IVE BECAME ONE WITH MINE, BUT SHE STILL ACTS UP EVERY NOW AND THEN.
If you buy the hose with the regulator and the quick connect, both sides will work connected to your tank.  FYI.

"Diligence is the mother of good luck."

"The constitution only gives people the right to pursue hapiness.  You have to catch it yourself."

"Well done is better than well said."

"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

All by:  Benjamin Franklin

"The solution to any problem - work, love, money, whatever - is to go fishing, and the bigger the problem, the longer the trip should be."

Author: John Gierach

Re: Mr. Heater-Little Buddy Problems
by on 12/21/2011 1:50 PM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/14/2009
Location: ND
Try opening the tank valve real slow,   I have a grill that does the same thing once in a while but only when I open the valve fast.  The newer equipment  must have safety valves that shut off if flow exceeds a determined flow rate ??    Not sure,   All I know is if I open the tank slow it works just fine.  If I open it fast I sometimes hear a click and that shuts off the gas,  I then have to disconnect the hose and release the pressure and try again.     
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Re: Mr. Heater-Little Buddy Problems
by on 12/21/2011 3:38 PM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/28/2011
Location: nd
You guys are right on when you say you have to open the newer 20 lb bottles slowly. I used to work with propane and guys are asking all the time "WHAT'S WRONG" and I show them and they can't beleive its that simple to fix. If you open the tanks to fast the safety valve will close only releasing a small amount of propane, sometime none. Alot of people have this same problem with there propane grills. Daughter & Son-in-law used their grill for a summer season, thinking that was all the flame that it would putting out. After I showed them, they were trying to point fingers at each other.
Re: Mr. Heater-Little Buddy Problems
by on 12/21/2011 4:17 PM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 05/04/2007
Location: ND
HUNT69 Said:
You guys are right on when you say you have to open the newer 20 lb bottles slowly. I used to work with propane and guys are asking all the time "WHAT'S WRONG" and I show them and they can't beleive its that simple to fix. If you open the tanks to fast the safety valve will close only releasing a small amount of propane, sometime none. Alot of people have this same problem with there propane grills. Daughter & Son-in-law used their grill for a summer season, thinking that was all the flame that it would putting out. After I showed them, they were trying to point fingers at each other.
It's not easy to figure out if you're not in the biz or if you've never heard of this, that's for sure.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the reason you need to open it slowly is that an empty hose has no pressure yet - so opening the valve quickly allows a "rush" of propane into the hose, triggering the low-flow safety mechanism in your tank.

Opening slowly let's the valve act as the back-pressure for the couple seconds needed while the hose gets up enough pressure of its own to provide necessary backpressure to prevent triggering the stupid low-flow safety thingy in the tank.

Not?

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Re: Mr. Heater-Little Buddy Problems
by on 12/21/2011 4:29 PM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/10/2006
Location: ND
This may or may not solve your problem but we had the same thing happening to us tailgating with our little grill.  It would turn on and there would be a small flame but hardly got hot.  we tried everything.  Well needless to say while it was on we took the lp tank out of the box of the truck to get the tools to work on it and it started working as soon as the tank was placed on the ground.  the grill was on the tailgate.  So my buddy and i instantly looked at each other as this is the same thing that was happening to our Mr buddys.  we found that if we raise the tank higher than the burner on the grill it would basically go out.  well we tried the same thing on the heaters and it held true.  the big lp tank had to be below the heater.  they could not be sitting on the same level.  Why dont ask me but try setting the heater on something higher than the valve of the lp tank.  it worked for us.
Re: Mr. Heater-Little Buddy Problems
by on 12/21/2011 4:46 PM | Reply #16 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/28/2011
Location: nd
guywhofishes-   You are correct. The pressure needs to equal, therefore the valve must be opened slowly to get the pressure in the hose the same.
Re: Mr. Heater-Little Buddy Problems
by on 12/21/2011 6:03 PM | Reply #17 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/26/2010
Location: nd
guywhofishes Said:
HUNT69 Said:
You guys are right on when you say you have to open the newer 20 lb bottles slowly. I used to work with propane and guys are asking all the time "WHAT'S WRONG" and I show them and they can't beleive its that simple to fix. If you open the tanks to fast the safety valve will close only releasing a small amount of propane, sometime none. Alot of people have this same problem with there propane grills. Daughter & Son-in-law used their grill for a summer season, thinking that was all the flame that it would putting out. After I showed them, they were trying to point fingers at each other.
It's not easy to figure out if you're not in the biz or if you've never heard of this, that's for sure.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the reason you need to open it slowly is that an empty hose has no pressure yet - so opening the valve quickly allows a "rush" of propane into the hose, triggering the low-flow safety mechanism in your tank.

Opening slowly let's the valve act as the back-pressure for the couple seconds needed while the hose gets up enough pressure of its own to provide necessary backpressure to prevent triggering the stupid low-flow safety thingy in the tank.

Not?

This makes complete sense, but apparently the low flow safety device must kick back off at some point.  After the what seems like an hour goes by and it lights, then the heater seems to operate correctly. 

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Re: Mr. Heater-Little Buddy Problems
by on 12/21/2011 8:41 PM | Reply #18 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/22/2010
Location: nd
WELL WELL WELL....HAVE REGULATOR AND HAVE TRIED ALL THE ABOVE. BUT ITS STARTS FINE WHEN WARM OUT....-20 DIFFERENT STORY.........MIGHT HAVE AIR IN PROPANE TANKS.
Re: Mr. Heater-Little Buddy Problems
by on 12/21/2011 8:59 PM | Reply #19 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: SD
 Good thread. I always wondered why I had problems with my grill. Makes sense now.

Re: Mr. Heater-Little Buddy Problems
by on 12/21/2011 9:20 PM | Reply #20 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 09/11/2002
Location: ND
also make sure its not double-regulated....meaning your hose does not have its own regulator.  I tried running a hose from my old camper's propane line for a little buddy, and did not work.  Opening the valve slowly seems to help as well

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