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Meat Processing Equipment....What's a guy need?

by , Posted to on 01/11/2012 09:57 AM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/10/2010
Location: ND
It's getting too expensive to pay to have meat processed.

What equipment do you guys recommend in terms of grinders & stuffers, for processing deer into sausage? How big of a grinder does a guy need? What brands are quality and which should be avoided? Do you need a press or will the grinder fill the casings? Any information or experience would be appreciated.
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by on 01/11/2012 10:02 AM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/26/2010
Location: SD
Get a sausage press. There are very few things more frustrating than using a grinder to fill casings.
John Browning=GENIUS
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by on 01/11/2012 10:22 AM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/03/2004
Location: ND
Cabelas grinders arent bad. I have a 1hp, get a foot pedal so it doesnt run constantly.

Stuffer?

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200425065_200425065
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by on 01/11/2012 10:22 AM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/03/2009
Location: ND
We use cabelas brand 1 3/4 hp grinder and a 30lb stuffer both work really great. i agree with hunttorride don't try to use the grinder to fill casing.
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by on 01/11/2012 10:26 AM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/03/2003
Location: ND

lemproducts.com, they make pretty quality stuff.  I'd definately recommend a grinder, mixer and a separate stuffer.  The mixer they have is an attachment that attaches to the motor for the grinder.  Pretty easy to switch between the 2.  I'd also suggest getting the newer model of mixer that tips so you can dump the meat out, especially if you are making large batches of sausage, 40-50lbs at a time.

The initial investment in everything is pretty high, but if you plan on making your own sausage every year, it'll save you money in the end.  However money spent on beer while making sausage may make it a  wash.


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by on 01/11/2012 10:31 AM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/18/2004
Location: ND
remm Said:

lemproducts.com, they make pretty quality stuff.  I'd definately recommend a grinder, mixer and a separate stuffer.  The mixer they have is an attachment that attaches to the motor for the grinder.  Pretty easy to switch between the 2.  I'd also suggest getting the newer model of mixer that tips so you can dump the meat out, especially if you are making large batches of sausage, 40-50lbs at a time.

The initial investment in everything is pretty high, but if you plan on making your own sausage every year, it'll save you money in the end.  However money spent on beer while making sausage may make it a  wash.

Its usually a 24 pack, then a jug of Morgan when the four of us get to making sausage, thats the grinding, mixing, stuffing, and a trip to the smoke house. So if you are going to factor that in to the cost you are better off getting someone else to buy the refreshments and you supply the gear.

 

If we're not supposed to eat animals, how come they're made out of meat?

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by on 01/11/2012 10:41 AM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/09/2009
Location: ND

It all depends on how much meat you want to process each year and how long you want to spend doing it. Without knowing that, it's hard to say what you might need. I process 2 or three deer a year, plus I make 25 lbs of pork breakfast sausage. I have a Cabelas pro series grinder ($169) and I've use it for 5 years with no problem. It works best if your meat is semi-frozen first time through. I used it as a stuffer for a couple of years but the meat ends up almost as a pate'. Last summer I bought a Dakotah Water Stuffer ($150) and love it! It stuffs a 3 lb summer sausage casing perfectly in a little less than a minute. I converted my stuffer to air instead of water and run 40 psi of air. Good luck and have fun.

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by on 01/11/2012 10:43 AM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/31/2005
Location: ND
 northern tool sells a great grinder for about 99 bucks on sale. from there you can do what you want if you want all patties just need the grinder.  Initially i would recommend just getting a grinder and stuff with that and see if your interested in doing it again.  If you do have money to burn though i wouldnt be a bad idea to get a 5lb stuffer. It does make things alot easier.  If you have even more money to burn i would get a meat mixer too.  

you will also need seasonings. PS seasonings and the sausage maker are both good quality sites. otherwise go to your local butcher and ask for some premixed sausage spices. if there is one you like from there they will more than likely give you a premixed batch of your choice. 

if your going to stuff you will need hog casings you can buy usually as little or as much as you want i usually buy 1 hank at a time costs between 20-30 bucks.

If all else fails butchers will usually grind the meat for you and you can season and smoke it. 
 Norm
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by on 01/11/2012 10:48 AM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/30/2009
Location: ND
You don't save much, if any, money by doing it yourself, but it's a fun weekend and you get the satisfaction of a good product and you can experiment with different mixes and whatnot.  We're doing it this weekend, and one of the guys wasn't finding pork butts under $2/pound (prior years have been more in the $1 range).  Seasoning, casings, freezer paper...all adds up.  Not to mention all the beverages you drink and the initial investment of equipment.  But just like the hunt, you don't do it because it's a good deal, it's for the fun of it. 
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by on 01/11/2012 10:54 AM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 04/07/2009
Location: ND
another place to get good spices is penzeys. the father in law and i get ours from there. making sausage is always enjoyable family time as well as you save some money. you can't put a price tag on some good family time.

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by on 01/11/2012 11:01 AM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/06/2010
Location: ND
 
zoops Said:
You don't save much, if any, money by doing it yourself, but it's a fun weekend and you get the satisfaction of a good product and you can experiment with different mixes and whatnot.  We're doing it this weekend, and one of the guys wasn't finding pork butts under $2/pound (prior years have been more in the $1 range).  Seasoning, casings, freezer paper...all adds up.  Not to mention all the beverages you drink and the initial investment of equipment.  But just like the hunt, you don't do it because it's a good deal, it's for the fun of it. 

This^^^^ Kinda like reloading, although making sausage is much funner than reloading for me.

Starting out, the equipment (good equipment) is certainly not cheap. Take a long time to pay for itself. I can't remember what it was off hand, but I figured my costs into a batch of ring sausage and sticks one year, it really added up. Costs for high temp cheese, casings, etc are all going up. Making jerky in the oven is one thing that will save you money however. You can buy a decent slicer, cheap seasoning kits, and dry it in a oven. You don't need a smoker or dehydrator to produce good jerky. Locker plants charge a crap ton for muscle jerky it seems like. 

We use a Cabeals Commercial grinder, and mixer attachement. We stuff sticks and ring sausage right out of the grinder and have had no problems with it. We also don't make 300lbs of this stuff every year. In that case, a separate vertical stuffer would be a nice addition. 
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by on 01/11/2012 11:01 AM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/09/2009
Location: ND
One good seasoning is the Hi Country kit from Cabelas. Works great until you want to experiment on your own. A kit is less than $20 for 30 lbs of sausage, that's about 60 cents a lb. and includes the casings. Pork butts I got this year were $1.45 a lb, so call it $1.50, that's about $22 for 30 lbs. Grand total is $42 for 30# of sausage. That is until you add in the $300 for the grinder and stuffer. Takes awhile to recoup that investment.
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by on 01/11/2012 11:02 AM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/07/2002
Location: ND

My family has been doing this all my life.  Get some family or some buddies together it cuts the cost.

Grinder... it depends on how much you do.... I just do my bow deer with a $75.00 grinder from Gander and works just fine......and I also stuff of that grinder for some brats. 
Now for Family deer session we have a 2Hp Cabelas for 500-600 lbs of Sausage.  And you will need a Mixer 50lbs and 30lb to larger stuffer.  You can find so old cast iron stuff used that work great, but the new stainless stuff is better.

Casing you can buy at a butcher shop... I have gone to using all beef the last few years. 
Spices I believe was also covered but the best is to make your own but that sometimes takes years.

Next you will need meat. 

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by on 01/11/2012 11:20 AM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/18/2002
Location: ND
Not trying to change the subject but what does everyone use for straight pork sausage? pork butts, trim?
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by on 01/11/2012 11:22 AM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/09/2009
Location: ND

If you have a friend you make sausage with that has access to a military commisary, whole butts are cheap there. $1.33 a lb last week.

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by on 01/11/2012 11:26 AM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
sjs Said:
Not trying to change the subject but what does everyone use for straight pork sausage? pork butts, trim?
For pork sausage we just grind pork butts and add seasoning.

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by on 01/11/2012 11:30 AM | Reply #16 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/10/2010
Location: ND
Great information guys. Our boys are of hunting age now so we process 3-4 deer/year with the wife shooting too. Add in 70-100 lbs of goose & duck and your soon paying $300 to $400+ per year for processing. I agree that this is great family time and is a big part of what I'm interested in it for, so if we break even on the deal I think the money is well spent.

Good question sjs....
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by on 01/11/2012 12:03 PM | Reply #17 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 09/28/2005
Location: ND
I would recommend a #32 grinder if you ever plan to do more or plan to help a buddy out. We have one we drive off a 1hp motor and gearbox (30:1). There's been other threads on here on how to set them up. Just before Christmas I, my son and a buddy ground , mixed and packaged 75lbs of pork sausage in about 3.5 hours. We have a LEM 20lb? mixer that we motorized (60:1) and a LEM 15lb stuffer that we used to fill the meat bags. I bought a "tape machine" for sealing the meat bags a few years back that really sped up the process.

A couple of things we really do on the cheap is we use 5lb ice bags to store ground deer meat in (off the grinder) and we use beer flats with some butcher paper in them for disposable meat lugs. All donated by the local watering hole.

We have a dedicated man cave(old trailer house) that we do all our butchering/smoking in and we use it year around. We've been adding things every year. Started out with a meat saw, grinder and a commercial smoker. Since then we've added a digital scale, mixer, stuffer, tape machine, paper dispenser, tape dispenser, beer fridge, 16cu ft freezer, 8ft bar, TV, satelite dish (buried a cable from the house), stereo w/surround sound, microwave, propane parlor stove, jerky cannon, two vacuum packers, exhaust hood, meat lugs,18 quart roaster and most basic cooking utensils. None of it is really high end, some bought new, used, donated and scavenged.

Having the freezer close by is really handy when grinding meat. It grinds best when partially frozen and we can regulate that pretty well. Same for the fridge, some sausages have to "cure" before you smoke them and it's conveniently close by (beverages also).

We added the bar, TV and other stuff because we needed something to do while baby sitting the smoker (a must). On a typical weekend we'll be smoking something while preparing something for the next day or rigging spinners at the bar while watching TV. There's usually a meal in the roaster or on the grill. In the summer, we have a shooting bench just a few steps from the front door. It's actually turning into an alternative hang out spot besides the bar. We have people stop in to visit, help out, and eat.

As for spices, check out Curley's Sausage Kitchen online. Everything comes portioned out with step by step instructions. Haven't had anything bad from them yet. For information and recipes, check out Smoking Meat Forums. There's a couple of members from here that pop up on there from time to time.

Like someone else said it's good family/friend time. My 11 year old boy just loves going to the smokehouse.
Education will tell you a tomato is a fruit, while wisdom will tell you not to put it in a fruit salad.
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by on 01/11/2012 1:00 PM | Reply #18 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 09/28/2005
Location: ND
Cut and grind pork butts. $1.46 just before Christmas at Sam's Club when you bought case quantities. 60lbs-80lbs per case. The one I bought was 79lbs and came out to 75 on the money when we de-boned it.
Education will tell you a tomato is a fruit, while wisdom will tell you not to put it in a fruit salad.
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by on 01/11/2012 1:32 PM | Reply #19 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 04/27/2010
Location: ND
 How about vacuum sealers?

Any good/bad reviews on different models?

I have heard some can be complete junk.
 
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by on 01/11/2012 1:48 PM | Reply #20 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/31/2005
Location: ND
 food savers automatic one is good. the hole to stick the bag end is a little small. The bags do get expensive, but you can usually get them on sale is you can wait and buy 8-10 rolls at a time. 

You can cut cost by doing it on your own.  the 1st year if your dont have anything you will probably pay even more than you would at a butcher,  but after buying the grinder, stuffer, mixer, smoker, vac packer if you perfer. you are really only adding the cost of pork and spices for next years stuff.  I have also found if you vac pack and freeze your premixes they will taste just fine the next year. 

i saw a comment earlier about SOME sausage has to cured before it is smoked.  Word of caution ALL sausage should be cured before it is smoked due to the low temps you are smoking at. maybe i am just being picky but it can be extemely dangerous to smoke uncured sausage.
 Norm
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