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lund or alumacraft

hey guys i just started looking at new boats and wanted some opinions. what do you think about lund or alumacraft. looking at lund rebel 1725 or 1825 and alumacraft dominater or navigater 175.

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My last boat was a 2002 Rebel 1650. LOVED IT.
I looked at another Lund, but ended up with an Alumacraft Navigator 175 side console. It's basically almost a Pro-V style as far as options/cosmetics go, but way less money. Quality is awesome, it's saved my a$$ last year during the flood and will do the same this year.

I like Lund, I might eventually own another one, one of these years, but I love my Alumacraft.


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I had a Navigator Sport 185 and it didn't hold up to the abuse of bigger waves.  Windsheild fell apart and seat mounts came out.  I was hard on it but this was in the first year.  Sold it and bought a Ranger ..... problem solved.

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Bought the Alumacraft Trophy last year and I have always been a Lund guy, but after checking pricing between both of companies I found you get more bang for your buck with Alumacraft..at least I did.  I was debating on a Lund Fisherman or the one got.    You pay alot for that LUND name, and you may get more back if you trade a Lund in versus a Alumacraft, but I am not planning on getting rid of my boat anytime soon.  Both companies produce great boats...just comes down to what you NEED in a boat and what it's going to cost you.

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Last fall we sank our alumacraft competitor CS 165,  replaced it with a lund 1775 pro v.  The internal construction quality and attention to detail isn't even close. The PRO-V is built so much better.  However, we really liked the alumacraft and they are super fishable...just not in the same league as a pro v.  

However, I have fished out of alumacraft tourny pro's and those are pretty nice boats. 

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Just an FYI, I own an 07 model Navigator sport. If I had it to do over I would definitly get the dominator sport as i had lots of trouble mounting my downriggers. If you arent going the downrigger way then the navigator is a very fishable boat. I have had mine out on some pretty rough stuff and never felt like I was in danger ever. I have the Yammy 4 stroke on mine... one word...AWESOME!!! wouldn't have any other motor!!!

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clay362000 Said:
hey guys i just started looking at new boats and wanted some opinions. what do you think about lund or alumacraft. looking at lund rebel 1725 or 1825 and alumacraft dominater or navigater 175.

Where are you planning on fishing? Rivers, small lakes, big water? If your looking at a 1825 I'm guessing you plan on having it out on a big lake every now and then...the quality of a Lund will make the difference in the big waves...so if you have the money get the Lund however if your river fishing and hitting smaller lakes that do not generate 3-4 foot swells...go with Alumacraft...yo uget more "stuff" for the money but that stuff falls apart when put to the test.


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as stated above there is really no comparison between a lund and an alumacraft.  And I once worked at alumacraft.  alumacraft has become a price point boat.  lund is what all other manufactures wish they were. 

 

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Just get a Lund 186 Fisherman GL ...problem solved


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eyexer Said:
as stated above there is really no comparison between a lund and an alumacraft.  And I once worked at alumacraft.  alumacraft has become a price point boat.  lund is what all other manufactures wish they were. 

What bankrupt ? and be bought out by a private equity.   I dont what company wants that . 

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I have an alumacraft trophy 185 with a 135 hp mariner I bought in '97.  It seats 4 behind the windshield and I've had it on LOW, Sak, DL, Leech, Minnewaska, and everything in between.  It takes big waves (over 5 ft) and wind real well.  It spends 50-75 days a year in the water between my dad and I.  We have had no repair problems except a cracked live well from hitting waves with it full of water.  We had to replace the bilge pumps a few times as 6 footers can dump lots of water in the boat.  The original seats finally gave out in the backs, but we fixed those with plywood an a few screws.   The floors, side walls, gun rails, transom, splash well, bait well, and windshields have stood up famously.  The next repair is the wood on the front deck as it is now, finally starting to get soft.  It only took 13 years.  If this one ever needs to go out to pasture, I will get another Alumacraft, no doubt about it.  I'll try to upload a photo.

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pretty amazing that a bankrupt company can make such a high quality boat,lol.  Anyway, it's the parent company that is bankrupt.  I'm sure Lund by itself is extremely solvent. 

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eyexer Said:
as stated above there is really no comparison between a lund and an alumacraft.  And I once worked at alumacraft.  alumacraft has become a price point boat.  lund is what all other manufactures wish they were. 

What bankrupt ? and be bought out by a private equity.   I dont what company wants that . 

 

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I bought my first boat 2 years ago. Alumacraft navigator 165 tiller with 60 hp 4 stroke Yamaha. I love the boat, I primarily fish muskies on small to medium size water but I have cruised from Woodland to Pelican with it on a moderatly calm day. I love my boat and it was a great first boat but if I had to do it all over again I would have shopped used and found a boat for the same price but maybe a little bit bigger. Maybe a 2-3 year old lund explorer or alumacraft trophy. I have came across some dang good deals on alumacraft non currents at Hallberg Marine in Wyoming and kick myself every time. But my boat is a great first boat and I love fishing from it and use it every weekend from may to october.

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I bought a used Trophy 175 about 4 years ago. It's been a great boat. It's now 14 years old and still going strong. When you buy Lund, you pay dearly for the name. Sure resale is higher but that too is simply because of the name. IMO Lund and Alumacraft are pretty much the same except for the price.

My advice is to look for a good clean used model which suits your needs and price range. I wouldn't let the name be the deciding factor. My 2 cents.

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Just bought a Lund Alaskan 1600 and so far I like it as much as a guy can with it just sitting in the garage waiting for open water.  Can't wait to get it out fishing.  Got a tiller model for on the river and extra space.  The construction of the boat is awesome.  The sportrac system is also pretty cool, not sure if alumacraft has something like that or not but it sure is nice for rod holders.  I looked a alumacrafts but just couldn't get away from the fact that it seems like even the old lund mr pikes are still cruising the rivers and lakes and not leaking a drop.  Thats the quality i was looking for. 

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I have an Alumacraft Tournament Pro 17' tiller with 90 4 stroke Yamaha and I love it.  Great boat.  I fish primarily Sak and although its not dry it does handle big waves, no prob.  Love the double hull.


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I was always told very comparable boats but if eventually want re-sale to go with Lund over Alumacraft.

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I would also check out a crestliner 1750 fishhawk.  A few thousand cheaper, and all welded.

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I have allways thought lund was better built than alumacraft years ago but after looking at the new ones i dont know. I have a older 20 foot lund alaskan (not the type of boat you are looking for) my alaskan is a beast more fishing room than anything i have seen.

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Personally, I would move into a glass boat. Better ride, and dryer ride for sure. I have an 08 Stratos and if this is the last boat i ever own that would be OK with me.

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What's your budget?

This should be your baby :

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Crestliner Sportfish is the only way to go

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first off thanks  for all the help. and to answer a couple questions i will mostly be on small lakes  with a trip to devils lake once in a while. no down riggers. budget around the 20000mark give or take. nice boat at walleye central but i have a wife and 2 small kids so i need a full windsheild dont want them gettin wet and cold.

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clay362000 Said:
first off thanks  for all the help. and to answer a couple questions i will mostly be on small lakes  with a trip to devils lake once in a while. no down riggers. budget around the 20000mark give or take. nice boat at walleye central but i have a wife and 2 small kids so i need a full windsheild dont want them gettin wet and cold.

Your going to get hell for that statement. Because I guess technically, if you're going to get wet in a good side console, you're going to get wet with a walk-through windshield. I get what you're saying though, it helps with the wind and colder temps more, I will probably end up with a full windshield sooner or later.


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clay362000 Said:
first off thanks  for all the help. and to answer a couple questions i will mostly be on small lakes  with a trip to devils lake once in a while. no down riggers. budget around the 20000mark give or take. nice boat at walleye central but i have a wife and 2 small kids so i need a full windsheild dont want them gettin wet and cold.

Full windshields are nice but in a crosswind, I don't know if there is an absolute dry boat out there.  I have an 18 ft Lund Explorer with dual consoles and it can be a wet ride with a crosswind.  However, I've gotten wet in the "dry" warrior before also!!!        

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Only real advantage of the wind shield boats is they are typically wider (not in all cases), you can hang a bigger motor on them and you can cut the wind down.

Now, I look at it this way.  If you plan to have your wife and kids out in conditions where windchill is a concern I guess I don't know if they should be out in the first place.  As far as getting wet.  The ONLY person that really gets wet in a tiller boat in pretty rough conditions is the skipper.  In real rough conditions or conditions where you have to cut waves inappropriately and have wind bring the wave splash back over you, I don't care what boat you have, rain gear will be on for all.

Advantage of tiller?  Room and fishability (for the most part).  Room for sure though.  Perfect for having kids plus all the bags of food, towels, extra clothes, coolers, etc.  Life gets crowded in a windshield boat unless you go up into the 20 to 21 foot class.  Those bad boys cost 55 to 65k!!!!!  One issue with tillers (especially fiberglass) is excess door type storage.

But yeah, it is a whole different ball game when looking for a family type boat.  Will have to admit, the windshield boat MAY be best.  All depends I guess.  If you take the wife and kid out in May and Sept, Oct, Nov in the boat you might want a windshield boat.


 

 

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solo,

Ha ha ha.  I remember that day you claimed to have gotten wet.  I think it was a little skiff of spray that hit you in the face.  I suppose you got upset when your smile was interrupted from such a smooth ride.

Other than that, did we really ever get soaked in the Warrior outside that wicked return to Dakota Waters?  Yeah, like you said, no boat can hide from nasty conditions and especially when it involves running the boat in unwanted circumstances.

Exception?  A big 19 to 20 some foot boat.  But that goes for both tiller and windshield boats.  The bigger, the drier (in most cases).  You just get on top of the waves better.  Which brings me back to solocam.  I have a 17 foot boat!  Not bad for a little boat that can't get on top of the waves correctly.  Not to mention narrow!


 

 

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One downside to having a windshield is when you want to control a drift.  The windshield acts like a sail and can really raise havoc with a drift when speed is a factor in presentation.  I have 3 boat brakes in the boat all the time and have used them all at once.  It makes for quite a dance when you have a fish on to get it between the ropes and into the net.  However, getting out of the wind on the cold mornings far outweighs this IMO.

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Yeah, I couldn't believe the spray in my face!!! 

However, the ride between a Warrior and my Lund is hands down advantage Warrior.  When conditions are nasty, I would much rather find myself in a glass boat.  Hence the reason I'm in the market for a new one.  Now, like you stated, price becomes unreasonable if you want new!  

It sounds like you are looking for a boat that is family friendly, affordable, and occassinaly big water ready.  I would say Lund, Alumacraft, Crestliner would suit you just fine.  I would recommend however to try and get into the 18 ft. size as it will help with room and ride.  Secondly, if not more important IMO, max out the HP specifications.  

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Clay,

Are you looking for new, new or used, new?


 

 

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Bought a 2000 Alumacraft new back in the day.  Tournament Pro 175 CS 115 4-stroke.  Loved the boat at the time we looked at the Lund, but the guys selling them sure made some error.  At the sportsmen show in Fargo one gage was put upside down and another dealer had a huge dent in the bow.  With that we knew the service wouldn't be great around Fargo so we went with Alumacraft.  That I think has changed with Ray's Marine, I don't believe they were around then but I wouldn't hesitate to buy a boat from them just got more options on a Aluma then a Lund for the same price. This winter I traded that boat off and paid $21,000 new and got $9,800 in trade, not to mention the boat looked pretty rough although ran great. 

I recently just bought a Alumacraft Tournament Pro CS 1850 with 150 4-stroke.  The boat origionally MSRP for $38,000 and I got it for $26,000 without trade...not to mention that at the dealerships around here were $6,000 more expensive then what I got it for down in the cities.  Its hard to beat $12,000 off sticker.  Not to mention it came with a Phoenix trailer (used to be eagle) and has enclosed wiring and LED lights and chrome wheels.  A trailer is very important to be and I would never get another shorelander or karavan again.  Lund is a great boat, and I think Alumacraft is a great boat all depends on what you are looking for.  Another reason I went with the alumacraft was because the Lund Pro-V now only comes 19' or longer...I just don't like getting much longer than 18'.  Happy hunting on boat shopping if it were me the Dominator is a great bang for the buck...try price shopping M and J Marine in Wausua, WI they have some pretty crazy deals right now.

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Yeah there are more than a few Lund owners shaking their head at the discontinuation of the 18' Pro-V.


 

 

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i was thinking new i like warranty if something happens. and the 20000 i put for a price is flexible somewhat.just dont want to go to crazy on price

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Lund is where its at, no effense to anyone, but Alumacrafts push water like no other, compared to the IPS series of hulls, doesnt really have a big factor to some but it might to others

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Lund is where its at, no effense to anyone, but Alumacrafts push water like no other, compared to the IPS series of hulls, doesnt really have a big factor to some but it might to others

ALumas are certainly not known for the speed..that is for sure.

The IPS hull is amazing, I didn't know what Integrated Power Strake, meant until I took the topside of our 1775 pro v apart.  It appears to me as if some, if not all of the strakes, are sandwhiched into the hull, between pieces of aluminum.  I guess that is what "integrated" meant.

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I prefer Lund's fit and feel over the other aluminum boat makers.  Alumacraft aren't very far behind in my opinion, but I really am not a big fan of the Sylvan or Smokercraft boats of the same age. 

The IPS hulls on the Lunds (are they still IPS-2) are lightyears beyond the other aluminum hulls.  I at one time complained about the wet ride as well in an old Alumacrap (79 model).  Always figured a bar of soap should be standard issue with them, along with towels.  Then I had a mid 80s Smokercrap.  It too was a really wet ride on big water.

Now I ride in a 2005 Lund Fisherman.  Windshield or not, it's a heck of a lot drier than the two previous boats (of course, the cost of the two previous boats were a LOT less than this Lund).  Either way, I am perfectly comfy and dry in my Lund in some pretty big rollers on Sak.  And even if I am being a dink with my tacking across the waves, the wife can always duck behind the windshield.  Not a highly fishing friendly feature, but it is tremendously family friendly. 

I came pretty close to pulling the trigger on a new Alumacraft when I bought the used Lund for roughly the same money.  Can't say I am disappointed.

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p.s.  Never been a huge fan of Crestliners.  Not that their current fishability isn't good, they had a few years where people were complaining about crushing the bows while running around DL in some big waves.  Got that tidbit from a person who worked for a Crestliner deal and figured I would just stay away from them because I am known to be a little heavy on the throttle for the conditions.

The Lund doesn't seem to mind my driving habits.  Kinda like my Ford, it just suits my needs.

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I know there are some deals on the bigger Alumacrafts to be had.  You might want to check out Warner's Dock in New Richmond.  They were sitting on a couple 08 model new boats.

I bought my 09 Tournament Sport at Lacannes in Fairbault MN, I was pretty pleased with the deal and love the boat.  The only hitch was that some of the manuals didn't make it into my possession.  Ultimately I ended up contacting the trailer manufacturer because Lacannes wasn't very responsive to my concerns.  I think they are pretty good dealership as far as price goes, seemed like they knew what they were doing service wise but the manual thing was a bit irritating.

Dealing with them saved me thousands over any dealer in WI even after paying MN sales tax.

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Timmers,

He is looking for a boat not a bathtub!!!! LOL

If you can swing it, find a nice used couple year old glass boat; you will NEVER got back to a tin can again.

I would sell you my ranger, great family boat but I need to get one more season out of it; gonna buy a Tuffy next spring.

 

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Im suprised they keep making aluminum over the one peice glass boats. Seems like the demand is really heading toward glass. No rivets, seams,  and they ride much better in the water. I cant imagine it costs much more to build a glass boat when you consider the labor that goes into peicing together an aluminum.

 

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Clay,

You will save quite a bit up front but you'll lose it on the back-end. When you sell or trade a Lund vs. Crestliner you will definitly notice the Lund has a much better resale value. Just take a look at some used ones of both makes and see for yourself. Try to compare apples to apples the best you can.

As for the construction of the Crestliner I can't speak from personal experience. I now own my 3rd Lund, it's a Tyee 1850 GL and I really like it. My opinion is get the best boat you can for the money you have to spend regardless of make and model and then go out and enjoy the heck out of it. There are a lot of makes of boats that'll get you out on the water for a fun day/weekend of fishing. Good luck.

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Why would anyone buy an aluminum walleye boat if a glass boat was available for about the same $$$$?  I can see buying a used aluminum if the price is right, but, if your gonna dump some cash on a nice boat why not go glass? Curious to the pro's of owning riveted hull metal boat vs. a one peice glass unit.

 

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There are numerous reasons to have aluminum over glass.  Some people don't like to beach their glass boat, it's no big deal with an aluminum one.  Some people fish the river all the time, and there are a ton of people that really don't like taking their glass boats in the river.  And believe it or not I much preferred the rid in a Crestliner Tournament Series 17' boat over a Ranger 617.  It wasn't as dry but a much nicer ride. 

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Why would anyone buy an aluminum walleye boat if a glass boat was available for about the same $$$$?  I can see buying a used aluminum if the price is right, but, if your gonna dump some cash on a nice boat why not go glass? Curious to the pro's of owning riveted hull metal boat vs. a one peice glass unit.

 

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Back when I fished Tournaments which ended 5 years ago for about 18 years, we ran Lund and back than they where alot cheaper than glass boys. We had a factory ride with Lund so we had a new boat every year, thanks to Dons Sportland in Breckenridge which is no more now, back when Alumicraft started the engineer from Lund left and thus started the new hull design XB2. We ran lunds in 16' to 20' size so got to run them all. We did alot of rigging and jigging so boat control was a must, we hated the tiller models than, even though 85% of them where tiller boats that fished tournaments. The windshield deal took off with pros later on and when we ran a windshield boat it was no comparision. You have to get them setup right and it did cost a few more dollars to do that. I have spoken to and riden in every boat out their and can say Lund has a great boat.. Both alum and glass have their place. All I know is they are all to high priced now. First boat was $12,000 loaded with all we wanted on it last boat was over $50,000 loaded up. Why some of these companys get rid of a good model is BS. Heck with world now days only Ranger is left standing on it's own two feet, Guess Bass boys helped their. Even used boat prices are nuts.