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lowrance hds for ice fishing

anybody out there use there HDS with the lowrance ice package? how is the flasher feature? how does it compare to the vexilars? is it worth the money or would i be better off just buying a vex?

would be nice to have flasher and GPS all in one is what i was thinking

thanks for any help

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plenty of us on this site use our graphs to ice fish.  most who do would never go back to a flasher.  i ain't been out yet.  but, when i do go, my hds-7 will be making the trip with me.  if you already own one, i wouldn't spend the money on a flasher.  get yourself and ice transducer and something to mount your graph to and go fishing.  also... no sense using the flasher mode.  the graph mode gives you all the information your flasher does and then some. 

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ya i already have a hds so thats why i was thinking about getting the "winter package" for it, just wasnt sure if anyone used them or if they work alright

thanks for the info

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where do they have these winter packages at?  cause i ain't so sure my 7 inch screen will fit in the same case i had my 522 in.  where you located at cormorant?

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hmm... but, i don't need the ducer, the battery, the charger or the tackle boxes... lol.  i guess i will just put it in my old soft case and probably not be able to zip the thing up... which i very seldom do anyways.  thx.  too lazy to search myself today. 

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Both work but the Vexilar is a $300-$400 unit that's built rugged and will hold up much better in subzero temps and bouncing around in your ice house or pickup box compared to a $1200-$1800 HDS unit with an LCD screen and designed largely for summer use. 

Just something to think about.

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Mine is being delivered today from Reeds Sports.  Bought the HDS-5 adapter kit and Lowrance Ice Pack.  Comes with the ducer, battery, charger, and case.  This has been the longest day ever.

Here is what to order.

http://www.reedssports.com/Product/product.taf?_function=detail&_ID=25488
http://www.reedssports.com/Product/product.taf?_function=detail&_ID=23166


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I use an HDS 5 on the ice. A few people here will argue until they are blue in the face against them, but they are just fine. I've been using graphs on the ice for 5 seasons now. 

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sdietrich... what is the adapter kit.  it gives no description of the item and what it is needed for?  last thing i want is to decide to finally hit the ice someday only to find out i am missing something.  i assumed my blue plug ice ducer would do the trick.  no? 

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sdietrich Said:
Mine is being delivered today from Reeds Sports.  Bought the HDS-5 adapter kit and Lowrance Ice Pack.  Comes with the ducer, battery, charger, and case.  This has been the longest day ever.

Here is what to order.

http://www.reedssports.com/Product/product.taf?_function=detail&_ID=25488
http://www.reedssports.com/Product/product.taf?_function=detail&_ID=23166

Dont hold your breath, i ordered the ice pack for my hds 5 and the mounting bracket dosnet work for it so you will need to buy another mounting bracket or use your bracket off your boat to make it work. I ended up screwing the hds bracket on to the bottom of the ice pack.

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espringers Said:
sdietrich... what is the adapter kit.  it gives no description of the item and what it is needed for?  last thing i want is to decide to finally hit the ice someday only to find out i am missing something.  i assumed my blue plug ice ducer would do the trick.  no? 

The addaptor kit is just to convert the transducer plug that comes with the ice pack to your blue plug in

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gonefshn Said:
Both work but the Vexilar is a $300-$400 unit that's built rugged and will hold up much better in subzero temps and bouncing around in your ice house or pickup box compared to a $1200-$1800 HDS unit with an LCD screen and designed largely for summer use. 

Just something to think about.

This is also my thought.  I have an HDS-8 but couldn't bring myself to haul it around on the ice.  I bet they would be awesome for ice fishing though.

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No need to use the flasher feature, just use the graph.  Make sure you have it set to manual mode, and everything else in manual(range & sensitivity).  The only downfalls can be battery life(keep the brightness set to 6-8outside and less inside), and the 20deg transducer on really steep structure.  I love mine!


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espringers Said:
sdietrich... what is the adapter kit.  it gives no description of the item and what it is needed for?  last thing i want is to decide to finally hit the ice someday only to find out i am missing something.  i assumed my blue plug ice ducer would do the trick.  no? 

The addaptor kit is just to convert the transducer plug that comes with the ice pack to your blue plug in

yeah... thanks... just got off the phone with lowrance tech... i should be good to go w/ mine.  time to get my shtuff together. 

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duckduckgoose Said:

gonefshn Said:
Both work but the Vexilar is a $300-$400 unit that's built rugged and will hold up much better in subzero temps and bouncing around in your ice house or pickup box compared to a $1200-$1800 HDS unit with an LCD screen and designed largely for summer use. 

Just something to think about.

This is also my thought.  I have an HDS-8 but couldn't bring myself to haul it around on the ice.  I bet they would be awesome for ice fishing though.

An HDS 5 set up is not much more expensive than the top end vex's.  Plus then you can use it in the boat.  How many ppl use their vex year round?  A few, but not many.

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espringers Said:
sdietrich... what is the adapter kit.  it gives no description of the item and what it is needed for?  last thing i want is to decide to finally hit the ice someday only to find out i am missing something.  i assumed my blue plug ice ducer would do the trick.  no? 

The addaptor kit is just to convert the transducer plug that comes with the ice pack to your blue plug in

If you order the ice kit you need the adaptor, but there is a seperate transducer that already has the blue end, so save your money and just set up the unit piece by piece rather than buying the kit and the $50 adaptor.


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i've already said this numerous times on other forums... but, as long as it isn't smashing against other objects, i wouldn't fret it bouncing around in a sled or my pick up.  don't know that i would toss it in the back of the truck box or sled if it wasn't covered up or zipped of course.  and i would also be certain it wouldn't be in danger of having the auger or propane tank or something else smashing against the screen.  but, the cold weather and regular bouncing around that goes with traveling across the ice shouldn't be any harder on them than the abuse they take in big waves and rain in the summer... if i was worried bout it, i wouldn't even be considering taking my $1000 machine on the ice.   

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There is a thread here from last winter about adjusting the settings for optimal use on the HDS on the ice. I believe Jim Carrol posted it. If someone can dig that up, that would be great. It really helped me. 

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i've already said this numerous times on other forums... but, as long as it isn't smashing against other objects, i wouldn't fret it bouncing around in a sled or my pick up.  don't know that i would toss it in the back of the truck box or sled if it wasn't covered up or zipped of course.  and i would also be certain it wouldn't be in danger of having the auger or propane tank or something else smashing against the screen.  but, the cold weather and regular bouncing around that goes with traveling across the ice shouldn't be any harder on them than the abuse they take in big waves and rain in the summer... if i was worried bout it, i wouldn't even be considering taking my $1000 machine on the ice.   

I put my white plastic Lowrance Cover on it when transporting...and its protected by the soft pack as well. 

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duh... forgot bout the white cover.  i am pretty certain i won't find a softpack to cover my 7" screen though unless i fork over some money for one of the bigger soft packs that come with the marcums i suppose.  any idea how big a screen you can stuff in yours? 

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duh... forgot bout the white cover.  i am pretty certain i won't find a softpack to cover my 7" screen though unless i fork over some money for one of the bigger soft packs that come with the marcums i suppose.  any idea how big a screen you can stuff in yours? 

The 5 inch screen barely fits. Its really designed for the Elite 5, but you can make the HDS 5 work. Its tight. 

Funny thing. My neighbor whom I fish with a few times a year saw mine in action last year. He ditched his vex and upgraded his HDS 5 for ice fishing. 

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i agree.  i saw a marcum graph in action on the ice last year too.  but, lowrance has them beat when it comes to ice fishing in my opinion even though those marcums are marketed more towards the ice fishing crowd than the lowrances.  there are some features the lowrances have that the marcums don't.  and that even applies to the 67-68 series lowrances and any of the older color models... not just the newer hds series in my opinion.  my uncle was looking for a graph... after chatting w/ me... he ended up getting an lx-7.  i was kind of bummed when i saw what it had to offer.  i'd take my old 522 lowrance over that thing any day of the week.  looked nice.  but, lacked some bells and whishtles that the lowrances have that i use all of the time on the ice.... except they have the lowrances beat w/ the dual beam ducer.  i think only a couple lowrances have that feature. 

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Just had my HDS5 on the ice yesterday works great. I am on my third season using it and couldn't be more pleased. I just used  Jim Carrols setting suggestions i found on the internet and set up was easy. i bought the ice kit and adapter from Reeds i didn't have any mounting problems but is a tight fit in the case .If you are worried about battery life just buy a spare battery and swap if needed, but i have fised allday on a single battery. Cant beat having sonar and GPS on the ice, better then watching a ring that looks like a rainbow and guessing that you are fishng the same spot you did before.

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I think I have Jim Carrols settings in a document at home. I will try to repost later. 

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that would be awesome if you could find those settings, ordered the ice pack and adapter, should be here before i can fish again, cant wait to try it

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Here's a thread: http://www.fishingbuddy.com/ice_fishing_with_hds5

Summary of tips:

Here's a few tips to get you started:

* Use a larger battery. The 5" HDS color screens definitely use more power- 0.7A at 13VDC with backlight on, 0.4A with backlight off.  I use a 10 Amp Hour battery which has the same footprint as the more common 7-9 AH batteries, but it’s about 1” taller and a pound or so heavier,yet it still fits easily inside the Genz Box I've got my HDS rigged on.  I’ve yet to kill the battery in a long day of fishing- the lowest reading I’ve seen on my digital battery indicator is 63% charge.  I do shut the HDS off when I’m tending tip ups etc.

* Set your screen backlight level.  There are ten levels of backlight to choose from, with level "10" being the brightest.  I rarely exceed level "7" when I’m outside on the ice, or level “5” when I’m inside my Otter house.
 
* I use "graph" mode exclusively (Pages/Sonar<to the top>/Enter).  The HDS does have a flasher mode- Menu/Sonar Options/Split/Flasher- if you prefer that view.

* Choose your transducer (Menu/Settings/Sonar/Installation/Transducer type)  PTI-WBL/PTI-WSU is the correct choice for the Lowrance ice-ducer.

* Pick a background PALETTE (Menu/Sonar Options/Palette) that's easy to see given the light conditions in which you are viewing the screen (14 choices).

* Set the FISHING MODE (Menu/Settings/Sonar/Fishing mode)  I use the Shallow Water mode 80% of the time.  Note changing these settings can change noise filters and ping speed settings.

* Manually adjust PING SPEED (Menu/Ping speed) and chart SCROLL SPEED (Menu/Settings/Sonar/Scroll speed) to your liking.  I usually run between 15-Max ping speeds and Normal-2X Scroll speeds depending on water depth.

* Designate RANGE (Menu/Range) and choose a suitable range of water depth.  Make SURE you are not in AUTO depth range.

* Run SENSITIVITY (Menu/Adjust/Sensitivity) settings in manual mode.  Uncheck AUTO SENSITIVITY (Menu/Auto Sensitivity/Enter) and adjust up until lure can be easily seen (usually 60-80% depending on water conditions).
 
*  Adjust COLORLINE so that the lure is just starting to turn blue. When a decent sized fish comes in, it will usually show some red or even yellow on the display (colors will vary with Palette choice)

*  If getting interference from other flashers (or other noise) use NOISE REJECTION and SURFACE CLARITY filters to tune it out.  Start at low and work your way up to high as needed. You'll have to adjust your SENSITIVITY after each increase in filter level.   In extreme cases of interference from other flashers, you may have to adjust the PING SPEED and/or raise or lower your transducer in the hole a few inches.  Using these tips and running in CHART MODE, I've never had a problem tuning out other flashers.

*  Use ZOOM (ZIN/ZOUT) and the ARROW Keypad to adjust the ZOOM window up or down so you are seeing the desired depth range.  The zoom level is up to 8X, and I always use some level of zoom, adding more in deeper water.

These settings should get you started using a Lowrance HDS unit on ice. Good Luck!

Jim Carroll NPAA #13

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Not sure if its just me, but when fishing in proximity of flashers, my HDS8 was downgraded to only showing depth and fish, no luck at all on getting the thing to pick up any jig I put down the hole, went back to using the tried and truee vex


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Take it for what its worth but was told that the Lowrances just are not built with the IR that is necessary


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yattz1 Said:
Take it for what its worth but was told that the Lowrances just are not built with the IR that is necessary

Please read the post just before yours.

If getting interference from other flashers (or other noise) use NOISE REJECTION and SURFACE CLARITY filters to tune it out.  Start at low and work your way up to high as needed. You'll have to adjust your SENSITIVITY after each increase in filter level.   In extreme cases of interference from other flashers, you may have to adjust the PING SPEED and/or raise or lower your transducer in the hole a few inches.  Using these tips and running in CHART MODE, I've never had a problem tuning out other flashers.

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I might be mising something so this could be a dumb question, so if you order the ice transducer and float, what do you do for a power cord? Do they make a differnt one for icefishing? And where do i find one for my hds 7?

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And what do you guys use for batterys?

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walleyechucker Said:
Cant beat having sonar and GPS on the ice, better then watching a ring that looks like a rainbow and guessing that you are fishng the same spot you did before.

Wouldnt the spot you fished before still have the hole you punched? Ill take a flasher over a screen any day.

 

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when you get caught out in a blizzard it is handy having that little track to lead you back to saftey using the gps in the graph.

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Cant beat having sonar and GPS on the ice, better then watching a ring that looks like a rainbow and guessing that you are fishng the same spot you did before.

Wouldnt the spot you fished before still have the hole you punched? Ill take a flasher over a screen any day.

I am talking about the next season or after some snow fall. Technology is out there for us to use if you want to stay in the past that's your loss. Just keep fishing by the third rock left of the tree on the shore line because that is where you think you were last time. This will be an ongoing debate for years but for me it is sonar over flasher.

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 If I wanted to sell my FL-18 Ultra Pack, being used only 2 winters, what would be the best asking price?? 

I never considered using the HDS-7 from the boat and I might as well get that transducer that fits and begin using that, huh!    

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You guys can fiddle all you want with the High Def Graphs.  While you are pushing buttons and making adjustments i will be moving on to the next hole.

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I have a hds 7 that i use in the winter just for the gps leave it on the dash. this summer is was a blast to jig with the hds unit

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walleyechucker Said:

I am talking about the next season or after some snow fall. Technology is out there for us to use if you want to stay in the past that's your loss. Just keep fishing by the third rock left of the tree on the shore line because that is where you think you were last time. This will be an ongoing debate for years but for me it is sonar over flasher.

How did you know my secret spot?