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by , Posted to on 01/07/2012 08:18 AM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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legalize more drugs like Ron Paul wants to  so more people can see pink elephants,green hearts,   Kind of handy to take a trip and never leave the home
7000.00 in damage how does a looser-drugger even come close to pay.. 

The best democrat platform a Republican can stand on it a manure pile

drug test everyone on welfare

have an open season on molesters

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by on 01/07/2012 08:45 AM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Drug abusers require treatment, not jail time (where they are exposed to, and often become TRUE criminals). Locking up potheads is expensive and pointless. Weed is NO worse than booze...
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by on 01/07/2012 08:46 AM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Legal or illegal people will still take drugs.  It would have no effect on what criminals do if the drugs were legal or illegal.   Also Ron Paul is not for legalizing drugs. He says that it is not the FEDERAL governments right to determine that drugs are legal or illegal.  So you are saying we should also make guns illegal because they kill people.
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by on 01/07/2012 08:56 AM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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jaybus Said:
Legal or illegal people will still take drugs.  It would have no effect on what criminals do if the drugs were legal or illegal.   Also Ron Paul is not for legalizing drugs. He says that it is not the FEDERAL governments right to determine that drugs are legal or illegal.  So you are saying we should also make guns illegal because they kill people.


guns don't kill people, people kill people.  I think every state should have the death penalty and it should be used, instead we would rather spend tons of money on rehabilitation, and I know Iknow it costs a lot of money both ways, but some people just need to die for the things they do, aka Alfonzo Rodriguez!!!!
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by on 01/07/2012 08:57 AM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Do any of you have family or friends who are alcoholics or druggies? I do/did.

Alcohol is alcohol. It can definitely consume your life.

Drugs can be done in moderation ONLY if it is weed and that is pushing it.

Drugs offer people a feeling alcohol simply does not. It is a whole different level of stimulation. And on that note I see way more people go from weed to cocaine, pills, or whatever than I have seen go from a case of beer to the drugs.

That is my opinion. Drugs are illegal and still have shocking stats. Sure, alcohol has stats of it's own but I garauntee it would have greater stats if legalized.

Or maybe not? Thoughts? I just have seen more behavioral change with drugs than I have with alcohol. But let it be known. Both in too big of consumptions will ruin lives. Some simply can handle it and some cannot.

Interesting subject though.




 
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by on 01/07/2012 09:13 AM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Sorry but the research has been done. Alcohol and nicotine are the gateway drugs deal with it. Cannabis is not really harmful to you at all. Doesn't cause lung cancer nor does it kill your brain cells (it actually stimulates brain cells). And seeing more behavioral changes with drugs then alcohol? Alcohol is a drug in the same way cocaine is a drug and its just as bad for you or worse and affects your brain and body no differently then any of cocaine heroine prescription pills. If you think smokin some weed makes you do stuff like this guy then u probably have never tried it and i am not talkin about that mexi brick crap. Most medical cannabis users prefer that all of these hard drugs be illegal and that 1 plant (which grows wild in every state in this country) be legal completely legal. O yes and please anyone that came name me 1 other product that is 100% natural that can do the things this plant can to treating cancer, severe pain, eating disorders and many many other medical conditions????????
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by on 01/07/2012 09:18 AM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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          Heres part of the problem??Wonder if any these drugs come arcoss our border??
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by on 01/07/2012 09:19 AM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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sNOwPANTS Said:
Sorry but the research has been done. Alcohol and nicotine are the gateway drugs deal with it. Cannabis is not really harmful to you at all. Doesn't cause lung cancer nor does it kill your brain cells (it actually stimulates brain cells). And seeing more behavioral changes with drugs then alcohol? Alcohol is a drug in the same way cocaine is a drug and its just as bad for you or worse and affects your brain and body no differently then any of cocaine heroine prescription pills. If you think smokin some weed makes you do stuff like this guy then u probably have never tried it and i am not talkin about that mexi brick crap. Most medical cannabis users prefer that all of these hard drugs be illegal and that 1 plant (which grows wild in every state in this country) be legal completely legal. O yes and please anyone that came name me 1 other product that is 100% natural that can do the things this plant can to treating cancer, severe pain, eating disorders and many many other medical conditions????????


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by on 01/07/2012 09:25 AM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Let them have thier pot and tax it same as cigaretts.Rather have sumone going fifteen miles an hour then a drunk goin 100 mph thru town.

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by on 01/07/2012 09:33 AM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Tim Sandstrom Said:
Do any of you have family or friends who are alcoholics or druggies? I do/did.

Alcohol is alcohol. It can definitely consume your life.

Drugs can be done in moderation ONLY if it is weed and that is pushing it.

Drugs offer people a feeling alcohol simply does not. It is a whole different level of stimulation. And on that note I see way more people go from weed to cocaine, pills, or whatever than I have seen go from a case of beer to the drugs.

That is my opinion. Drugs are illegal and still have shocking stats. Sure, alcohol has stats of it's own but I garauntee it would have greater stats if legalized.

Or maybe not? Thoughts? I just have seen more behavioral change with drugs than I have with alcohol. But let it be known. Both in too big of consumptions will ruin lives. Some simply can handle it and some cannot.

Interesting subject though.
Tim,
It's called addiction. Alcoholism is a disease, recognized way back in 1959 as such by the AMA yet it still holds a certain stigma with those not effected by the disease. I read blogs and listen to people who say anyone can quit drinking, just don't open that first bottle or can. That ignorance is very apparent to anyone who has suffered from the disease first hand. Some people can drink socially all their lives without any consequences, others become addicted and the drug (which alcohol is) consumes their lives. "Other drugs" like marijuana, cocaine and meth are no different with the exception that cocaine and meth are more pysically addicting, yet a few can use meth or cocaine and never become addicted.

Society would be a much better place if there were no alcohol or drugs, but that won't happen. Alcohol has caused much more pain, suffering and misery to society and cost society much more money than any of the other drugs ever will. With that being said, we tried banning alcohol once and history shows us how effective that was and what the result of that action was. The criminal element took over the sale and distribution of alcohol, the cost went up, crime increased, quality went down, but anyone who wanted booze could still buy it anyway. We are seeing the same thing with illegal drugs right now.


I'm not a druggie and don't use drugs, however I'm all for legalizing (at least) marijuana. Not because I think it has some great social benefit, not that I think it's healthy to use, I only say that because no good comes from it being illegal. If anyone can send me the name and phone number of someone who has told you they want to buy marijuana but can't find anyone to sell them the drug then I'll change my mind. Otherwise I'm going to continue to believe making something someone wants illegal does absolutely no good, besides increasing the costs to society as a whole.

Education is where it's at, educate kids to the dangers of all drugs at an early age and let them make wise choices.
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by on 01/07/2012 09:37 AM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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sNOwPANTS Said:
Sorry but the research has been done. Alcohol and nicotine are the gateway drugs deal with it. Cannabis is not really harmful to you at all. Doesn't cause lung cancer nor does it kill your brain cells (it actually stimulates brain cells). And seeing more behavioral changes with drugs then alcohol? Alcohol is a drug in the same way cocaine is a drug and its just as bad for you or worse and affects your brain and body no differently then any of cocaine heroine prescription pills. If you think smokin some weed makes you do stuff like this guy then u probably have never tried it and i am not talkin about that mexi brick crap. Most medical cannabis users prefer that all of these hard drugs be illegal and that 1 plant (which grows wild in every state in this country) be legal completely legal. O yes and please anyone that came name me 1 other product that is 100% natural that can do the things this plant can to treating cancer, severe pain, eating disorders and many many other medical conditions????????


The medical canibis users go to the store and shop from a 100's of  different kinds of pot at the "dispensiary" as they are called in ca.  So saying they want the one plant is bs along with most of the fake users who have a back pain or eyelash hurt.  As for the medical properties of weed they have taken that and put it in a pill form with out the side affects of being stoned out of your mind.  I have read studys where it has been linked to lung cancer and it might not destroy brain cells but all the hard core stoners i know  take about a minute to say a complete sentence.  Have you ever looked at the medical beniftis that cocaine has an argument can be made there to.  Which prescription pills have herion in them i am sure there some but dont know.  The only thing i can say i have seen weed do is help one of my freinds be depressed enough to shoot him self. 
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by on 01/07/2012 09:38 AM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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by on 01/07/2012 09:38 AM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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JGN517 Said:

Let them have thier pot and tax it same as cigaretts.Rather have sumone going fifteen miles an hour then a drunk goin 100 mph thru town.



Believe me being stoned does not scare you from the gas pedal but makes you not relize how fast you you are really going.  
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by on 01/07/2012 09:39 AM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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murdock1978 Said:
          Heres part of the problem??Wonder if any these drugs come arcoss our border??
NO! ABSOLUTELY NOT! Our government has a Homeland Security Dept. which secures our borders! That's why I had to spend nearly $500.00 on passports so my family and I could continue fishing in Canada every summer!

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by on 01/07/2012 09:47 AM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Bowhuntin Said:
Tim Sandstrom Said:
Do any of you have family or friends who are alcoholics or druggies? I do/did.

Alcohol is alcohol. It can definitely consume your life.

Drugs can be done in moderation ONLY if it is weed and that is pushing it.

Drugs offer people a feeling alcohol simply does not. It is a whole different level of stimulation. And on that note I see way more people go from weed to cocaine, pills, or whatever than I have seen go from a case of beer to the drugs.

That is my opinion. Drugs are illegal and still have shocking stats. Sure, alcohol has stats of it's own but I garauntee it would have greater stats if legalized.

Or maybe not? Thoughts? I just have seen more behavioral change with drugs than I have with alcohol. But let it be known. Both in too big of consumptions will ruin lives. Some simply can handle it and some cannot.

Interesting subject though.
Tim,
It's called addiction. Alcoholism is a disease, recognized way back in 1959 as such by the AMA yet it still holds a certain stigma with those not effected by the disease. I read blogs and listen to people who say anyone can quit drinking, just don't open that first bottle or can. That ignorance is very apparent to anyone who has suffered from the disease first hand. Some people can drink socially all their lives without any consequences, others become addicted and the drug (which alcohol is) consumes their lives. "Other drugs" like marijuana, cocaine and meth are no different with the exception that cocaine and meth are more pysically addicting, yet a few can use meth or cocaine and never become addicted.

Society would be a much better place if there were no alcohol or drugs, but that won't happen. Alcohol has caused much more pain, suffering and misery to society and cost society much more money than any of the other drugs ever will. With that being said, we tried banning alcohol once and history shows us how effective that was and what the result of that action was. The criminal element took over the sale and distribution of alcohol, the cost went up, crime increased, quality went down, but anyone who wanted booze could still buy it anyway. We are seeing the same thing with illegal drugs right now.


I'm not a druggie and don't use drugs, however I'm all for legalizing (at least) marijuana. Not because I think it has some great social benefit, not that I think it's healthy to use, I only say that because no good comes from it being illegal. If anyone can send me the name and phone number of someone who has told you they want to buy marijuana but can't find anyone to sell them the drug then I'll change my mind. Otherwise I'm going to continue to believe making something someone wants illegal does absolutely no good, besides increases the costs to society as a whole.

Education is where it's at, educate kids to the dangers of all drugs at an early age and let them make wise choices.
It's a slippery slope.  I think many more people would "try" a drug if it was legal.  I know what that would likely lead to.  Being afraid of an arrest record is not a bad thing. 

"Diligence is the mother of good luck."
Benjamin Franklin

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by on 01/07/2012 09:54 AM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Just my personal experience.  My oldest sister smokes pot on a daily basis.  She was introduced to it after high school.  Before using pot she was bright, intelligent, and could carry on a conversation without struggling through her thoughts.  She is 42 this year and when I try to have a casual conversation with her it is like talking to a 6th grader in a special needs program.
  I had childhood friends that I grew up with that got into marijuana in high school that are dumber now than ever because of the long term use.  I have a niece that smokes pot and got arrested, then asked her grandmother to bail her out of jail.  Her grandmother asked that if she did bail her out if she would quit.  My neice said no she couldn't quit.
   Now here is the interesting part.  My 42 year old sister still lives with my mother and has no ambition to further herself in life.  She lives off the system and expects everyone else to take care of her.  My friends that I had in school that got deep into marijuana have all done jail time(and not because they got caught with drugs) and alienated their families.  My niece is 20yrs old and is going to have a baby in the next two weeks.  She had a baby shower for herself and used the money she got to get a new tv stand and flat screen tv.  She does not even have a car seat or crib for her baby and the only cloths she has are ones that family gave her.  She has never kept a job for more than two weeks because the employers won't give her the days off that she requests.  This baby(if she is even to be born healthy) is also going to be part of the welfare system with a mother that now gives her very little chance for a good prosperous future.  The most funny thing about all this is that these people feel they got screwed and the feeling of entitlement runs rampant.  In their eyes I am a prick because I have the money to help them and won't.  Because I am not a contributor to their irresponsible lives I am now an outcast.  I will not help someone who does not want to help themselves period.
   Bottom line is that we all have paid for this crap through either taxes or the demise of ones we love.  Anyone that reads this and smokes pot, I hope it changes your mind on continuing to do so.  For those of you that still smoke pot, I will continue to pray for you and pay my taxes for your bs.  For those of you that still smoke pot that I have ticked off with my post, you can kiss my backside.  Just smoke another dinger and you'll forget about it.
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by on 01/07/2012 09:59 AM | Reply #16 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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I like to burn alot......ive tried every drug u can get your hands on in my lifetime......but, i will never touch another drug(besides weed and some drinks) ever again. been there, done that. didnt like any of em.  That bein said, if alcohal is legal, weed should be legal! Drunk people fight andkill people while potheads sit on the couch and eat twinkies. Me, i like to smoke and enjoy a day at the lake away from everyone! Whats wrong with that? id say just as many people in this country smoke weed as people who dont...IF NOT MORE

Im on a mission, Im goin fishin!!

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by on 01/07/2012 10:03 AM | Reply #17 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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skeeterguy Said:
Just my personal experience.  My oldest sister smokes pot on a daily basis.  She was introduced to it after high school.  Before using pot she was bright, intelligent, and could carry on a conversation without struggling through her thoughts.  She is 42 this year and when I try to have a casual conversation with her it is like talking to a 6th grader in a special needs program.
  I had childhood friends that I grew up with that got into marijuana in high school that are dumber now than ever because of the long term use.  I have a niece that smokes pot and got arrested, then asked her grandmother to bail her out of jail.  Her grandmother asked that if she did bail her out if she would quit.  My neice said no she couldn't quit.
   Now here is the interesting part.  My 42 year old sister still lives with my mother and has no ambition to further herself in life.  She lives off the system and expects everyone else to take care of her.  My friends that I had in school that got deep into marijuana have all done jail time(and not because they got caught with drugs) and alienated their families.  My niece is 20yrs old and is going to have a baby in the next two weeks.  She had a baby shower for herself and used the money she got to get a new tv stand and flat screen tv.  She does not even have a car seat or crib for her baby and the only cloths she has are ones that family gave her.  She has never kept a job for more than two weeks because the employers won't give her the days off that she requests.  This baby(if she is even to be born healthy) is also going to be part of the welfare system with a mother that now gives her very little chance for a good prosperous future.  The most funny thing about all this is that these people feel they got screwed and the feeling of entitlement runs rampant.  In their eyes I am a prick because I have the money to help them and won't.  Because I am not a contributor to their irresponsible lives I am now an outcast.  I will not help someone who does not want to help themselves period.
   Bottom line is that we all have paid for this crap through either taxes or the demise of ones we love.  Anyone that reads this and smokes pot, I hope it changes your mind on continuing to do so.  For those of you that still smoke pot, I will continue to pray for you and pay my taxes for your bs.  For those of you that still smoke pot that I have ticked of with my post, you can kiss my backside.  Just smoke another dinger and you'll forget about it.

I have a great job, my own house, and my own car and iv smoked weed for half my life .......but, i have no license and 2 DUIs and did 5 days in jail for drinkin......just sayin... some people are different. depends on how you want to be. the weed didnt make your sister a bum, she did it.

Im on a mission, Im goin fishin!!

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by on 01/07/2012 10:08 AM | Reply #18 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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skeeterguy Said:
Just my personal experience.  My oldest sister smokes pot on a daily basis.  She was introduced to it after high school.  Before using pot she was bright, intelligent, and could carry on a conversation without struggling through her thoughts.  She is 42 this year and when I try to have a casual conversation with her it is like talking to a 6th grader in a special needs program.
  I had childhood friends that I grew up with that got into marijuana in high school that are dumber now than ever because of the long term use.  I have a niece that smokes pot and got arrested, then asked her grandmother to bail her out of jail.  Her grandmother asked that if she did bail her out if she would quit.  My neice said no she couldn't quit.
   Now here is the interesting part.  My 42 year old sister still lives with my mother and has no ambition to further herself in life.  She lives off the system and expects everyone else to take care of her.  My friends that I had in school that got deep into marijuana have all done jail time(and not because they got caught with drugs) and alienated their families.  My niece is 20yrs old and is going to have a baby in the next two weeks.  She had a baby shower for herself and used the money she got to get a new tv stand and flat screen tv.  She does not even have a car seat or crib for her baby and the only cloths she has are ones that family gave her.  She has never kept a job for more than two weeks because the employers won't give her the days off that she requests.  This baby(if she is even to be born healthy) is also going to be part of the welfare system with a mother that now gives her very little chance for a good prosperous future.  The most funny thing about all this is that these people feel they got screwed and the feeling of entitlement runs rampant.  In their eyes I am a prick because I have the money to help them and won't.  Because I am not a contributor to their irresponsible lives I am now an outcast.  I will not help someone who does not want to help themselves period.
   Bottom line is that we all have paid for this crap through either taxes or the demise of ones we love.  Anyone that reads this and smokes pot, I hope it changes your mind on continuing to do so.  For those of you that still smoke pot, I will continue to pray for you and pay my taxes for your bs.  For those of you that still smoke pot that I have ticked of with my post, you can kiss my backside.  Just smoke another dinger and you'll forget about it.

I think you just took the words right out of my mouth.  Nothing like first hand experience to really show you the affects.

"Diligence is the mother of good luck."
Benjamin Franklin

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by on 01/07/2012 10:14 AM | Reply #19 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Skager Said:
I like to burn alot......ive tried every drug u can get your hands on in my lifetime......but, i will never touch another drug(besides weed and some drinks) ever again. been there, done that. didnt like any of em.  That bein said, if alcohal is legal, weed should be legal! Drunk people fight andkill people while potheads sit on the couch and eat twinkies. Me, i like to smoke and enjoy a day at the lake away from everyone! Whats wrong with that? id say just as many people in this country smoke weed as people who dont...IF NOT MORE

Skags, you seem like an ambitious young man.  Put down the doobie and you will go further in life.  I am deadly serious.  It depends how much you value success.  Success rarely will accompany a purple haze. 

P.S.  I am not attacking you personally.  I am just offering up a bit of advice.  Take it or leave it.

"Diligence is the mother of good luck."
Benjamin Franklin

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by on 01/07/2012 10:21 AM | Reply #20 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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sNOwPANTS Said:
Sorry but the research has been done. Alcohol and nicotine are the gateway drugs deal with it. Cannabis is not really harmful to you at all. Doesn't cause lung cancer nor does it kill your brain cells (it actually stimulates brain cells). And seeing more behavioral changes with drugs then alcohol? Alcohol is a drug in the same way cocaine is a drug and its just as bad for you or worse and affects your brain and body no differently then any of cocaine heroine prescription pills. If you think smokin some weed makes you do stuff like this guy then u probably have never tried it and i am not talkin about that mexi brick crap. Most medical cannabis users prefer that all of these hard drugs be illegal and that 1 plant (which grows wild in every state in this country) be legal completely legal. O yes and please anyone that came name me 1 other product that is 100% natural that can do the things this plant can to treating cancer, severe pain, eating disorders and many many other medical conditions????????
There were no other drugs found other than "weed" so it must be weed that caused this problem. If the owner didn't have vandilisum insurance then the insurance company won't pay.  Some say lock the worthless scum up or treatment-that requires him to be present someplace other than being productive.
Simple soultion  life in prison unless he tells who the supplier is once he gets tired of buba and talks then he is on parole for life. must have an orange license plate and that allows law enforcement to stop and search anytime they want same for dui

Booze is legal drugs are not                  If weed is harmless why do people get fired if they do NOT pass the drug test.  
What level of THC makes a person intoxicated.  some say make it legal and tax it at what rate and how is the price established. so tax it at 100.00 per miligram.  THC is detected for 28 days does that mean the person is intoxicated for that length of time IF not then at what level of THC is not intoxication.----- that would be a judgement call but weed impares judgement-----   If the high lasts for example 4-5 hrs and the level of THC hasn't deminished then why isn't the person intoxicated 3 hrs before Kirt made the perfect assesment of a person that has used weed. they can't complete a sentence. 
People say it makes them feel mellow again can't complete a sentence left off the marsh that should have been put infront of mellow

Swift or Bobkat what is your oponion please

The best democrat platform a Republican can stand on it a manure pile

drug test everyone on welfare

have an open season on molesters

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