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Kicker or Not to Kicker

by , Posted to on 03/23/2006 10:01 PM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/29/2002
Location: ND
Hey Guys I'm going to be looking for a new boat and I'm wondering to Kicker or NOT to Kicker. I've fished for over 20 years without one and now I'm wondering if I'm missing something. I've gotten by with drifting, drift socks, electric trolling motors and the big motor. For those of you that have a kicker motor how much do you use it, 5%,10% etc.? Is it worth the $3000? Is it just a pain? Is it in the way? Thanks for your thoughts.
Re: Kicker or Not to Kicker
by on 03/23/2006 10:14 PM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/10/2002
Location: ND
I would say that if you don't use crankbaits or bottom bouncers you can probably get by without it, but if you do troll cranks or pull spinners, its a no brainer.
Re: Kicker or Not to Kicker
by on 03/24/2006 01:18 AM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/14/2004
Location: ND
First boat I got, I got advice on what to buy. No one advised A Kicker and I followed their advice. What a mistake I made. The 9.9 I have now is used quite often. I fish Sak. all the time and it is way more useful than any electric 90% of the time. Buy the kicker. If you feel you need electric get it too but only after the kicker.
Re: Kicker or Not to Kicker
by on 03/24/2006 06:27 AM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/12/2003
Location: ND
What kind of boat/motor are you looking for? What is your main or favorite fishing technique? If you do a lot of jigging or lindy rigging, you probably don't need the kicker. I just went through this dilema myself, and my solution was a 65# bow mount, and a 150HP 4 stroke. The big motor should get down around 2mph on dead calm days, and slower in the wind, and the electric should pull the boat up to 1.5mph all day long, so I have a gap in trolling speed from 1.5-2.0MPH, that's faster than I usually pull spinners, and slower than I pull cranks, so I think my new setup will work, we'll find out this spring. That's an 18.5' 1300# boat. If you're looking at a bigger heavier boat, say a 19-20ft glass or even a deeper 17-18ft windshield boat I'd say a kicker is very useful. A buddy of mine has a 1900 Pro-V with a 65# bow mount and an 8HP kicker. The bow mount works well for pulling spinners and lindy's until the wind goes over 15mph, then he needs the kicker.

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Re: Kicker or Not to Kicker
by on 03/24/2006 07:41 AM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/27/2004
Location: ND
buy a t8 yamaha if you buy one
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Re: Kicker or Not to Kicker
by on 03/24/2006 08:02 AM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/08/2003
Location: ND
Does anyone know where I an get a good deal on a T8 or T9? I am going through the same delima my self, to buy or not to buy. Thanks in advance.
 

Good Luck and Good Fishin'

Eric T


Re: Kicker or Not to Kicker
by on 03/24/2006 08:08 AM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/09/2002
Location: ND
I think if your spending $30k+ you might as well spend the extra 10% and get it. There will be times that you'll want/need it. You're never going to say, 'gosh, I wish I wouldn't have got the kicker' but will likely say 'gosh, I wish I WOULD have gotten the kicker'. Go for the complete package!

I have a kicker (tiller) that doesn't have power trim. Find that I use it less often for pulling cranks due to the inconvenience of having to raise lower it. This is especially true on the river where I may only pull for 100yds and repeat that process over and over. My advice, get the kicker with power trim.
Re: Kicker or Not to Kicker
by on 03/24/2006 08:23 AM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/27/2004
Location: ND
nice to have a kicker if your big motor dies
"The only enemy of guns is rust and politicians."
"The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry."

William F. Buckley, Jr.
"Unarmed helplessness is for sheep and the French."  Ted Nugent

"The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."
 -Thomas Jefferson


The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
-Thomas Jefferson




Re: Kicker or Not to Kicker
by on 03/24/2006 10:49 AM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 05/12/2004
Location: ND
I would get the kicker if I were you. I do troll cranks but not too often. Each time I do though, i am glad that I have it. Also, i have been hung up in the trees many of times and without that kicker, I'm sure that I would have wrecked a few props on my main motor. Overall, if the extra $3000 won't kill you, I would get it.
Re: Kicker or Not to Kicker
by on 03/24/2006 11:16 AM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/20/2001
Location: ND
I have the 9.9 Merc and a bow-mount electric motor to compliment a 175hp main motor. Let me tell you that I use the kicker MORE than the trolling motor! You know this is ND and we have wind.... No trolling motor will handle a ND breeze (I even have the 24volt system) and strong enough. A kicker works through 95% of the days on the water where a trolling motor does not.

I pull more crankbait than I do Lindey's. That speed differential is important. I can pull rigs at ANY speed i want.

I also fish the river near Bismarck. I can't imagine going on the river without a kicker motor. The current is too strong for a trolling motor and I wouldn't want to run my main motor all damn day long. What if you have a prop problem on the river? Are you going to float down stream and to a shoreline only at a battery system? Think about the "what-ifs" and let the gut make the decision.

Even if you decide on a used kicker motor for $1,000 you'll be more satisfied in the long run! To err once is human, to err twice a fool......

Re: Kicker or Not to Kicker
by on 03/24/2006 5:31 PM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 03/30/2002
Location: NE
I have a 1800 @ 1200 pds. 115 YAM 4 stroke and a MINNKOTA 65 auto, copilot. This set up works for me in all situations. I dont mind running the big motor all day, that's what I bought it for...and it doesnt use squat for gas putt putting around. And I have yet to run the batteries down all the way.
I toyed with the idea of getting a used 9.9 for maybe a $1000, but just cant justify spending 3 grand for a T8.
I have back splashers on my boat also and a kicker would complicate them.
good luck

 

Re: Kicker or Not to Kicker
by on 03/24/2006 7:45 PM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/16/2001
Location: ND
I've been kicking around the same thought,but I think it will be peace of mind to get one as you never know if the main motor will take you through the day or if the battery will last.I found a website you may save some money at with no shipping and no tax! check out http://www.onlineoutboards.com
Re: Kicker or Not to Kicker
by on 03/24/2006 9:37 PM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/08/2003
Location: ND
So what do you guys know about these tohaysu/nissian engines, 4 stroke 9.8, 3 year warranty for a good price, around 1500+/-?
 

Good Luck and Good Fishin'

Eric T


Re: Kicker or Not to Kicker
by on 03/24/2006 10:37 PM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/12/2003
Location: ND
Got`a`2000`lund`with`a`115Merc,no`kicker`or`electric.Have`a`troll`plate`and`anchor.Pull`spinners`cranks,no`problem.Have`the`sea`anchor`to.IMO`just`don't`like`all`that`other`BS!!
Re: Kicker or Not to Kicker
by on 03/25/2006 06:55 AM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/10/2002
Location: ND
The main thing to look for on a kicker motor is the strength of the brackets that hold it to the transom. I have had good luck with the mercury models and the yamaha. OMC models break like toothpicks in my opinion, they may be better now though. It is sad to drop your two thousand dollar kicker over the back of the boat because you were in a hurry in rough water. When I had a T8 I bought it used for $1800-tiller version.
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