We're only supposed to report here.

So far no fish for me yet, still waiting for coffee so I can make it out of bed. ; )

Actually I was surprised at the verdict.

Having served as a juror for a criminal trial in this court, I wonder how well the prosecuting attorney did of presenting his case. 

Despite what we read in the papers we always have to remember that a juror is held to a pretty high standard in whether or not to convict.  NOBODY, wants to convict unless they are proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt.  Doubt creeps in when it's you who has to sign onto the verdict.

At face value from the media reports it's tough to believe they couldn't even get a conviction on resisting arrest after the guy had to be tased, but such is life.

This wasn't his first brush with the law. What will people be yelling if/when he screws up again? If somebody else gets hurt, the proverbial poop will hit the fan.

 It was reported that the cop changed his story 3 times and that did not help the prosecution.  Also it very well could have been self defense and we know where most Fishing Buddy posters stand on this subject. 

I have a hard time buying the self defense claims.  I think  he was upset because it was his buddy  in the bathroom with the chick instead of him and a fight ensued.   While I don't think he intended to kill the guy I do believe he was negligent in his actions and should have been convicted as such.

It is just a wonder how he was not convicted of something.  For the Christ sake he stabbed a guy and even if he did not mean to stab the guy and kill him he stabbed someone.  It is a shame that we let people that like walk the streets of this great state.  I read alot of the blog and it just seems pretty cut and dry that if it is not murder it is at least manslaughter and the guy changed his story 3 times from when it first happened to when he was on the stand and go and believe the guy and let him off. 

i would say the justice system is seldom reliable enough or trustworthy enough to warrant a conviction.  they are publicly funded prosecutors with too much job security to give a shit unless it suits them personally.  law enforcement officers have been known to violate rights in order to arrest or gather evidence.  and they days are gone when you can trust a cops word even under oath. 

Is it really a shock to anyone that the justice system is a joke to so many people?

DISCLAIMER: before anyone comes on here whining about how amazing the good folks of law enforcement are or how special and different someone is that you know in the law enforcement field, it should be said that im fully aware my comments do not accurately represent ALL members of law enforcement or all public servants in general.

And how about the female in all of this!  Sorry, very sad story but what the hell is wrong with people!?  Hopefully the jury got it right....does seem weird for him to get nothing out of all this but he still has to live with the fact that he took someones life

Another case of trial by media and to heck with due process.  Atleast in the end this guy got his constitutional right of due process.  Anybody not sitting in that court room during the trial or at the scene of the crime really has no valid opinion as to guilt of this guy or any other person that had their life destroyed by the media.

Absolutely agree!  The Bismarck Tribune did their best to convict Unruh. The last time I checked none of their reporters were not involved in this tragic event..  

swift Said:
Another case of trial by media and to heck with due process.  Atleast in the end this guy got his constitutional right of due process.  Anybody not sitting in that court room during the trial or at the scene of the crime really has no valid opinion as to guilt of this guy or any other person that had their life destroyed by the media.

I wonder if I get caught cheating on my wife if I could use the same style defense. I was walking to the bathroom and I sort of slipped with my pants off and feel on this woman who also had her pants off. It was just an accident she fell down and I didnt mean to fall on her it just sorta happened.

I dont think that it is possible to stab someone to death accidently. Seems that some sort of charge should have happened. What if the dead person was your brother or son, how would you feel about this verdict.

Another Casey Anthony story   IMHO

 

BDub Said:

 It was reported that the cop changed his story 3 times and that did not help the prosecution.  Also it very well could have been self defense and we know where most Fishing Buddy posters stand on this subject. 

I wasn't at any of the proceedings, but this seems to be a very large part of the defense case. Hard to use his testimony when there's a lot of conflicting information involved.

swift Said:
Another case of trial by media and to heck with due process.  Atleast in the end this guy got his constitutional right of due process.  Anybody not sitting in that court room during the trial or at the scene of the crime really has no valid opinion as to guilt of this guy or any other person that had their life destroyed by the media.

100% agree

swift Said:
Another case of trial by media and to heck with due process.  Atleast in the end this guy got his constitutional right of due process.  Anybody not sitting in that court room during the trial or at the scene of the crime really has no valid opinion as to guilt of this guy or any other person that had their life destroyed by the media.

Poor John Unruh!  I suspect you would have a different opinion if your son ended up dead, or your daughter got raped and the guy walked.  I suspect you would be all about street justice after that, to heck with his rights then, huh? 

Hunter 77 you missed the point.  Everything we know about this case was fed to us by media outlets.  Media outlets want to sell their products and do so through sensationalizing stories. 

And to answer your question, Yes I would be looking for street justice but I can say I wouldn't be thinking as a rational human being. 

The intial post asked for opinions on the case.  I gave mine instead of attacking me why don't you give yours.

I ask you Hunter77 are people innocent until proven guilty or not? 

There was a common thought generations ago that went 'It's better for a thousand guilty men go free than one innocent man be convicted.  With the media today there is no integrity, it's all about money and awards.

Hunter77 what do you think about the medias persecution of Joe Paterno?  

hunter77 Said:

swift Said:
Another case of trial by media and to heck with due process.  Atleast in the end this guy got his constitutional right of due process.  Anybody not sitting in that court room during the trial or at the scene of the crime really has no valid opinion as to guilt of this guy or any other person that had their life destroyed by the media.

Poor John Unruh!  I suspect you would have a different opinion if your son ended up dead, or your daughter got raped and the guy walked.  I suspect you would be all about street justice after that, to heck with his rights then, huh? 

You don't get it

 The guys neighbors say he's a nut job with a bad bad temper and has been for years.
You do the math...

He walked because he and his family have $$ 

I find it kind of funny the hooker was from Garrison, kind of a  small town to be working the streets. This guy will have to live with it the rest of his life no matter what happened in court. He will most likely be served civil papers and sued for wrongful death I suppose. If he stays in the Bismarck area he will always be known as the man that got away with murder, whether it was justified or not. This whole night could have been avoided if there wasn't alcohol involved. Alcohol ruins lives, and this is just another classic example.