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Is the hoarding almost over?

by BX2 , Posted to Fishing Buddy on 07/09/2009 9:48 PM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
BX2

Joined: 12/25/2007
Location: ND
Ive been noticing that 223 shells are getting easier to find. I went to scheels to day and they had tons of 223 ammo,it wasnt cheap but they had a good selection. even noticed some at wallmart the otherday.  I was almost shocked to see a good selection of ARs on the shelf again.  I didnt have time to check pistol ammo or primers tho.. are they still hard to find?

 
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Re: Is the hoarding almost over?
by MossyMO on 07/09/2009 10:22 PM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
MossyMO
Joined: 11/12/2003
Location: ND
I am not done hoarding, I am thinking the lack of product is not over. My gut tells me this is just the beginning.....

Check back on this thread in 5 years after another presidential election and look how available we had the product (even in 2009). You may feel different in 2014. For me, my sons will have plenty of supplies.

Forgot to mention that I am a total crackpot, ask anyone who knows me personally from FBO !!!

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Re: Is the hoarding almost over?
by ggenthusiast on 07/10/2009 07:41 AM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
ggenthusiast
Joined: 09/11/2002
Location: ND
I don't really understand the hoarding philosophy.  Honestly, if the worst ever happened, and you had to defend yourself from a tyrant Govt, how many guns could you shoot/carry at one time?  How many rounds do you honestly think you would need?

Most wouldn't need more than 2 with full magazines, and you'd be pushing daisies by the time you got them empty.

I say to hell with that pot o' gold.
Re: Is the hoarding almost over?
by jokostel on 07/10/2009 08:11 AM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
jokostel
Joined: 10/24/2005
Location: ND
Yeah... but Id rather have the ammo and not need it, then need it and not have it.
Granted- I do have to agree with the lifespan.
During D-Day the lifespan of a trooper was around 30 seconds.
Granted, that's not saying much about today, but the basic comparison is still there.
The govt has superior weaponry in the forms of Aircraft,tanks, body armor......

But a select few Americans DO have weaponry that will punch armor, tanks... but I doubt there are many that would have the necessary tools/skills to knock down a fighter jet.

IF we had to reset the govt, it would HAVE to be guerilla warfare... plain and simple.
Hit-RUN- then hit again.

I'm the devil's son..... call me young gun.
Re: Is the hoarding almost over?
by stringerfull on 07/10/2009 08:27 AM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
stringerfull
Joined: 06/27/2005
Location: ND

Yes, Mossy is a crackpot.  Haa ha.

 
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Re: Is the hoarding almost over?
by Jiffy on 07/10/2009 08:57 AM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
Jiffy
Joined: 01/08/2002
Location: ND
Tis hard to kill what you can't see or find.

Engage and egress, engage and egress, engage and egress.......

If you can do it from a distance, this just frosts the cake.

What are the chances of getting whacked?  High.  Nevertheless you would raise ever living hell and tie them up for a considerable amount of time, I'm familar with their SOP. 

Now if you have a couple dozen who can do this and can coordinate it?  (grin)

Now to answer the question I would say by this fall or early winter we should start seeing it come back more towards "normal".  That's just my guess of course.
Re: Is the hoarding almost over?
by SHORTHAIRSRUS on 07/10/2009 10:42 AM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
SHORTHAIRSRUS
Joined: 11/24/2004
Location: ND
cant be over - I receive emails from midway and the product is gone by the time I check (within minutes)
Stay thirsty my friends
Re: Is the hoarding almost over?
by jokostel on 07/10/2009 12:46 PM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
jokostel
Joined: 10/24/2005
Location: ND
Jiffy Said:
Tis hard to kill what you can't see or find.

Engage and egress, engage and egress, engage and egress.......

If you can do it from a distance, this just frosts the cake.

What are the chances of getting whacked?  High.  Nevertheless you would raise ever living hell and tie them up for a considerable amount of time, I'm familar with their SOP. 

Now if you have a couple dozen who can do this and can coordinate it?  (grin)

Now to answer the question I would say by this fall or early winter we should start seeing it come back more towards "normal".  That's just my guess of course.


Reminds me of Chronicles of RIddick... "Wanna play whos the better killer"...

Lol.. don't ask me why, it's been a long day...
But yeah... hopefully by the fall this should calm down.
I NEED large and small rifle primers... BIGTIME.

I'm the devil's son..... call me young gun.
Re: Is the hoarding almost over?
by archer on 07/10/2009 3:13 PM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
archer
Joined: 06/28/2002
Location: MN
I wonder who drove the hysteria more on guns and ammo? the anti-gun people or the gun and ammo makers? Panic was sure good for the business!!!

Almost as funny as the gas stations the eve of 911, the lines in every town were blocks long for "ONE LAST TANK OF GAS". Its like what the heck is one extra tank gonna do for you if it actally did go to $10 per gallon over-night? WAY too funny!

Now, if you were somehow hoarding fuel in a 10,000 gallon tank i could see method to the madnss, but one tank? I guess i see the same in this gun and ammo rhetoric. Seems to be a mass hysteria on shortage but everyone can pretty much get ammo anytime, anywhere. the manufactures held the ammo in storage, created hysteria, sold out the boxes they did put on shelves at exorbadent prices and now the fear is subsiding as its available everywhere. There is still enough fear built into people to justify inflated prices but that's good for the bottom line if you make the stuff.
 
Re: Is the hoarding almost over?
by Kaptain on 07/10/2009 5:20 PM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
Kaptain
Joined: 11/06/2006
Location: SD
The last time I bought any ammo was November 2008. I read some of these posts and just laugh. I have enough for hunting this year too, so will actually not need anymore ammo until maybe November 2010.
Re: Is the hoarding almost over?
by StevePike on 07/10/2009 6:37 PM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
StevePike
Joined: 01/04/2002
Location: ND
Kaptain, did you buy a lot or just don't shoot much?

You can't aim a duck to death.
Re: Is the hoarding almost over?
by Kaptain on 07/10/2009 7:01 PM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
Kaptain
Joined: 11/06/2006
Location: SD
StevePike, no, I didnt buy alot. and no, I dont shoot that much, I deer hunt with a 270 WSM. Expensive ammo, always has been. I dont mind shooting deer with it, but limit the number of rounds I will put into a target. Im just not into the hoarding of 223 ammo revolution thing, big joke in my book. But, hey, if thats what makes people happy, go for it , probably no worse than what I spend on fishing equipment every year. 
Re: Is the hoarding almost over?
by Sierra1995 on 07/10/2009 8:41 PM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
Sierra1995
Joined: 12/23/2007
Location: ND
I was talking to a guy that i know about this topic about 2 weeks ago, and he is constantly reading magazines and all that other jazz. He pointed out something to me that really makes sense.

There are more people shooting today than any other period in the past. the most recent increase has been since september 2008, (about the time this stuff became expesive and harder to find). I beleive it was about a 40 to 50 % increase in the number of people. The leading rifle sales this year have been the smaller calibers, such as the .223. so they need ammunition for their toys, plus, how many of us have bought a new caliber in the last year?  i have bought 2 myself, a new .22 LR that is perticular about what ammo it takes, plus a .45, which i did not have previously. now i have about 1000 rounds for each, which doesn't seem like much, but think about my buddies that have done the same, or your self or friends that are buying new calibers.

i am not disagreeing with the hoarding, because i am constantly looking for ammo, but this may be a factor to it.

Re: Is the hoarding almost over?
by Hardwaterman on 07/10/2009 10:40 PM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
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Joined: 11/06/2002
Location: ND
Seirra I think the guy may not have factored in the re-sellers into the equation. Buy it at Walmart and sell it on the weekend for 3X what he paid earlier in the week drove a lot of the buying and hoarding because they pushed it as part of a business plan.

Jiffy I think has it right and really it has not been an issue finding factory loaded ammo for most calibers that are not .223 or 305 and other military calibers.

In my lifetime I have seen fence row to fence row farming and the return of CRP and game to the landscape.Now we face again the prosepect of fence row to fence row again! Sportsman are our own worst enemy in that we fail to look forward and focus to much on the now!
Re: Is the hoarding almost over?
by Sportsman on 07/10/2009 10:56 PM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
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Joined: 02/28/2002
Location: ND
305?  What military do you know that shoots a 305 round.  LOL  Funny stuff right there.
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Re: Is the hoarding almost over?
by Hardwaterman on 07/11/2009 3:38 PM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
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Joined: 11/06/2002
Location: ND
Saw the mistake and with the edit program could not fix it!!!!!!!
In my lifetime I have seen fence row to fence row farming and the return of CRP and game to the landscape.Now we face again the prosepect of fence row to fence row again! Sportsman are our own worst enemy in that we fail to look forward and focus to much on the now!
Re: Is the hoarding almost over?
by Horsager on 07/11/2009 9:01 PM | Reply #16 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
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Joined: 08/12/2003
Location: ND
Supplies are beginning to ease just as we've been told they would.  There was a run on ammo/components after last year's election.  The ammo manufacturers didn't release many components for reloaders as they needed them to replenish depleted stocks (and they make more money on those components as loaded ammo than they do selling them to reloaders), this fall's supply of ammo from the major manufacturers is loaded, boxed, and ready to ship.  With little exception they're unlikely to fall behind this year.  Being out of something, especially something popular is bad for every aspect of the business from the retailer to the manufacturer and everyone in-between.  They're covering their bases on loaded ammo 1st and as they're finishing that task we're starting to see the supply of components ease.

Just my opinion, take it for what it's worth.
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Re: Is the hoarding almost over?
by mauserG33-40 on 07/12/2009 12:52 PM | Reply #17 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
mauserG33-40
Joined: 05/24/2008
Location: Mo
In the last 2 to 3 weeks a lot of once fired 308 brass has become avaliable.

HW no 305 but I do have some 303 British. 
 
Re: Is the hoarding almost over?
by walkswithwhispers on 07/13/2009 00:55 AM | Reply #18 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
walkswithwhispers
Joined: 11/01/2005
Location: ND
Jiffy Said:
Tis hard to kill what you can't see or find.

Engage and egress, engage and egress, engage and egress.......

If you can do it from a distance, this just frosts the cake.

What are the chances of getting whacked?  High.  Nevertheless you would raise ever living hell and tie them up for a considerable amount of time, I'm familar with their SOP. 

Now if you have a couple dozen who can do this and can coordinate it?  (grin)

Now to answer the question I would say by this fall or early winter we should start seeing it come back more towards "normal".  That's just my guess of course.


It's stupid to think that there would ever be any sort of widespread violent civilian uprising or that the civilians would ever stand a chance. The hoarding and "bitter gun-clinging" isn't a defensive tactic, it's preventative medicine. I don't own guns because I intend to use them (militarilly speaking). I own guns so that I won't have to.

Take a moment to recall why the Japanese wouldn't consider a ground attack of the US mainland in WWII. As stated by one Japanese military comander, "there would be a gun behind every blade of grass." Widespread gun ownership ensured that no shot was ever fired on the mainland. Guns really do decrease violence!!
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