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I am frustrated........

by , Posted to on 04/16/2009 05:39 AM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 09/08/2007
Location: ND
Here I am taking a hunter safety class with GREAT instructors in a small class with hands on & all the knowledge being taught about guns, safety, our surroundings-everything every person should know & my exam is tonite, & I was excited untill.................................the comment was made from my fiance that if I am to go along with him & his buddies he has been hunting with for years--I cannot be "the game warden".  My heart sank, I am forty years old & trying to do something for myself so I can enjoy the outdoors more & don't get left behind at home when they all go hunting.  I guess I'd be better off not going with.

I felt I needed to share this, I am frustrated.
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Re: I am frustrated........
by on 04/16/2009 06:33 AM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/04/2002
Location: ND
Sounds like he is breaking some rules out there already. You might be better off finding someone else to hunt with, unless you want the headline "New Hunter Safety Graduate charged with XXXXX Violation" or worse. If one of my hunting "buddies" told me that, I doubt I would go with.

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Re: I am frustrated........
by on 04/16/2009 06:46 AM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/28/2002
Location: ND
Might be just his way of saying that he would rather you didn't come along because hunting is really for the boys.  I went to high school with a beautiful gal who loved hunting and fishing.  She was "one of the boys" when it came to hunting and fishing and it was rare if she ever passed up an opportunity to go along.  She was every outdoorsman's dream.  Then she married a real jerk who refused to ever take her along when he went hunting or fishing because that was "his time with the guys".  She coudn't find any female friends that were into hunting and fishing, and he refused to let her go hunting with any other guys because he was a possessive jerk.  So now she goes from work straight home while he goes hunting and fishing all the time.  Some guys have no idea how good they could have life if only they were to open thier eyes.
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Re: I am frustrated........
by on 04/16/2009 07:01 AM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/08/2008
Location: ND
 I think it is great you are taking the class. If you want to be the game warden. go ahead. You took the class and can hunt the way you want too. Don't be frustrated, be excited about hunting and being in the outdoors. Sometimes you have to just hunt and ignore other idiots in your group. Unless your life is in danger.
Re: I am frustrated........
by on 04/16/2009 07:03 AM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/20/2009
Location: nd
I have some hunting buddies that choose to hunt in ways that I do not, some are just different philophies, ethics, or even bend or violate the rules...we are still good buddies and love to go out together, but I'll sit in the truck while they do their road hunting in the ditch, etc.. Sometimes I bite my lip (when they party hunt to help out a guy, open beer in tthe truck, etc) and other times there are appropriate opportunities for my philosophies to rub off on them. If they are doing pretty blatant violations, I point it out to them and either refuse to participate, wait in the truck, or not go with at all. Some folks I will not hunt with ever again. But don't necessarily write it off completely yet...tell him you plan on following the rules, hunt ethically, etc but that you are also there to learn from him and to enjoy being in the outdoors together. I highly recommend you do a couple outings together without his friends first before you join the gang with all their "traditions".
Re: I am frustrated........
by on 04/16/2009 07:29 AM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 09/08/2007
Location: ND
Wow, I luv the fact u guys took time to respond...thank u!  I can identify with "the beautiful gal' story--not saying that i am, but yes, I go to work & come home.  So I will maybe take the exam tonite & maybe go with while they drink, shoot out the window at a pheasant-get pheasant fever over limit & shoot eachothers deer....hum--I just don't know if I like that though.   It is so against what I am being taught.  & against what I believe in for safety & fairness....there are rules for a reason....

maybe I will hv to just have to find my own hunting & fishing buddies........thank u again for ur responces, nice to know people care.
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Re: I am frustrated........
by on 04/16/2009 08:22 AM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 04/12/2009
Location: MT
Don't let it frustrate you too much. It's always good to see more women getting into hunting. He may not have meant it exactly like it sounds, but you'll probably want to find out before you head into the woods with them in case game laws are being violated. Glad to have you as a fellow hunter and good luck this season.
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Re: I am frustrated........
by on 04/16/2009 08:28 AM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/07/2002
Location: ND
Ok here is the deal.  My wife is taking the class right now as well with my daughter.  I am very excited. Maybe you boyfriend just needs to take you hunting and forget about the buddies.  If they are being rule breakers all the time, shooting over the limit and poaching deer.......... well you will not need to tell them what they are doing wrong.... they already know what they doing is wrong.  Go out and enjoy the outdoors.  I am very excited about taking my wife and daughter.  The boys will stll get some of my time, but..............  I am very excited about my new hunting partners. 
By the way hunting and the outdoors is quite a bit of fun but breaking the law  to have fun is bs.
Re: I am frustrated........
by on 04/16/2009 08:47 AM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/16/2001
Location: ND
By all means, go take the exam!  No matter what!  
 Sounds to my that  your fiance and his buddies are breaking the law and they know it! Presumably you have mentioned the idea of right and wrong to him and he doesn't want you to cramp his style!  
We are doing exams on a large class here tonight, so your "small class" must be somewhere else.  But I'll ask the other instructors and examiners what they would say to someone in your predicament.   You could definitely be between the proverbial rock and hard place!  And if you do marry the guy I'd predict that your hunting ethics problem likely won't go away, either.   I won't play Ann Landers or Dr. Laura on this one! LOL
Any other instructors out there to say what they'd advise?
Re: I am frustrated........
by on 04/16/2009 08:50 AM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/14/2003
Location: ND
Pat'sPlace Said:
I have some hunting buddies that choose to hunt in ways that I do not, some are just different philophies, ethics, or even bend or violate the rules...we are still good buddies and love to go out together, but I'll sit in the truck while they do their road hunting in the ditch, etc.. Sometimes I bite my lip (when they party hunt to help out a guy, open beer in tthe truck, etc) and other times there are appropriate opportunities for my philosophies to rub off on them. If they are doing pretty blatant violations, I point it out to them and either refuse to participate, wait in the truck, or not go with at all. Some folks I will not hunt with ever again. But don't necessarily write it off completely yet...tell him you plan on following the rules, hunt ethically, etc but that you are also there to learn from him and to enjoy being in the outdoors together. I highly recommend you do a couple outings together without his friends first before you join the gang with all their "traditions".

That's a good post.  We all can relate to this.




 
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Re: I am frustrated........
by on 04/16/2009 08:59 AM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/08/2002
Location: ND
My wife stays in the kitchen, where she belongs..... 
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by on 04/16/2009 09:10 AM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/14/2003
Location: ND
To add to Pat's Place, their needs to be understanding.  Whether it is the guy or the gal, each needs to pick up on the subtle hints that they want to go hunting with just the "boys" or the "girls" or if the hint is they just want to hunt in a small group.  Personally, I do not like large groups and I have turned down trips because of it.  I have more fun hunting with one or two other persons.  Four is plenty in my opinion.




 
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Re: I am frustrated........
by on 04/16/2009 09:36 AM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/16/2001
Location: ND
Normally I don't like big groups either, though it depends on what you are hunting, and how seriously you do it.   And the more people we can get to laugh, like when FBO's Allen breaks through the ice on the Heart River, the better!    Especially when you hear "twang" when his crotch hits the icy water and two lumps appear under his jaw! LOL
Like Tim says, there has to be understanding and communication.  If your fiance has always taken some hunting trip "with the boys'  he should still continue to do so.    In return he should head out with you, etc.  Give and take, always with lots of communication, not only with hunting in a marriage, but everything else too.
Re: I am frustrated........
by on 04/16/2009 09:57 AM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 04/24/2006
Location: ND
Hey, I'll take you hunting and fishing.  Just let me know.  My wife past away a couple of years ago from cancer.   I wish she had liked to hunt and fish.  It's just one more way of sharing life experiences.  I hope your dilemma works out for you.
Re: I am frustrated........
by on 04/16/2009 10:18 AM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/27/2006
Location: ND
I'm sure there's others that would love to take you hunting. My brother and I are new Hunter Safety Instructors. Take the test and do what you know is right. I know the group of family members I hunt with would gladly welcome you into the hunting fold. Whatever you do... DON'T STAY HOME! I wish my wife liked to hunt. I would love to share those hunting moments with her, but she just has no interest in it. Good luck and God bless! -Justin
Re: I am frustrated........
by on 04/16/2009 10:40 AM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/28/2002
Location: ND
I wish that my ex-wife would have liked to hunt.  She was never interested in it at all.  She would go fishing occassionally but not often.  I was on many trips where I caught a lot more fish when she wasn't with, but the ones I remember the most are the ones she was with.  I think back and if I could change one thing, it would be to try to get her out on the water more.  I can't imagine there are guys out there who wouldn't want to take thier significant other out in the field with them.  Trust me luv-tofish&hunt, you will never find a shortage of guys who would be more than willing to take you along.  Your fiance has no idea how lucky he is.
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Re: I am frustrated........
by on 04/16/2009 10:53 AM | Reply #16 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/25/2007
Location: ND
first, like everyone said above, by all means... take the test!!!  there is absolutely no good reason not to.  you have invested this much time.  since you like to hunt, you will always have that opportunity once you get certified.

secondly, if all your fiance said was "u can't be the game warden", you might be reading him a little wrong.  nothing in that statement leads me to believe that you are not welcomed some, if not all, of the time.  he is probably just trying to give you fair warning that some of his buddies skirt the line sometimes and it won't do you any good to play "game warden" with them.  they already know the rules and are probably pretty set in their ways.  so, if you want to go w/ those types of folks (which i would advise against), u might get a little frustrated by some of the things they do and it probably won't do you any good to speak up.  probably just a warning about the type of people some of his hunting buddies are.  nothing more... nothing less. 

lastly, good for you!!!  the world needs more of your type.  among other things, they make for a refreshing change in our photo gallery. 
Re: I am frustrated........
by on 04/16/2009 11:06 AM | Reply #17 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 05/08/2007
Location: ND
My wife and I fish Sak alot, she is with me probably 95% of the time , can fish as well as I can any day of the week . We see a lot of couples fishing which is great. I do wish
more guys worked with their significant others though when it comes to either backing
the rigs in or putting the boat on or off the trailer

When we bought our first boat , I asked her which one she wanted to learn cause she was not going to stand at the ramp holding a rope , she chose backing the rig in . Yeah it took some patience , sometimes a beer , but it sure worked out well .

She looks as forward to the water every year as I do and I never get the "your going fishing again " talk.

By the end of Sept she is outdoored out and I hunt with the guys and she is more than happy to have me do it , I guess what I am saying is if they have an interest take them
It sure has been fun for me and my wife
Re: I am frustrated........
by on 04/16/2009 11:17 AM | Reply #18 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/09/2007
Location: ND

So you mean your "Jimmy" who was so concerned about the animals all winter is nothing but a beer drinking poacher when he hunts who doesn't want anyone reminding him what the rules are?!?!? Figures!!! I hope he shows you more respect than he shows the critters he hunts and all of the rest of us who get lumped together whith him every time someone gets busted for hunting like him. Actually, from your first post I'd say probably not. And now that you're making an attempt to become a responsible law-abiding hunter I'd say doubly so. Maybe it's time to dump Jimmy and his pals and find someone who doesn't leave you posting on the internet for words of encouragement.

Of course, what do I know. I'm just married to a great gal who doesn't always want to go with but knows she's always invited no matter what...hunting, fishing, camping, whatever.

luv_tofish&hunt Said:
Wow, I luv the fact u guys took time to respond...thank u!  I can identify with "the beautiful gal' story--not saying that i am, but yes, I go to work & come home.  So I will maybe take the exam tonite & maybe go with while they drink, shoot out the window at a pheasant-get pheasant fever over limit & shoot eachothers deer....hum--I just don't know if I like that though.   It is so against what I am being taught.  & against what I believe in for safety & fairness....there are rules for a reason....

maybe I will hv to just have to find my own hunting & fishing buddies........thank u again for ur responces, nice to know people care.


Re: I am frustrated........
by on 04/16/2009 11:26 AM | Reply #19 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/19/2002
Location: ND
Dirty, you forgot road hunter. 
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by on 04/16/2009 12:09 PM | Reply #20 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 09/11/2002
Location: ND

Maybe he's hiding something from you.  Maybe his buddies are Brokeback Mountain buddies, and he doesn't want you to know???

I say to hell with that pot o' gold.

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