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hunting dog help

by mdart90 , Posted to Fishing Buddy on 01/16/2012 12:36 PM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
mdart90

Joined: 04/05/2011
Location: ND
i started bird hunting two seasons ago and loved it since. i have been looking to get a bird dog... however where i am moving to only allows dogs under 50 lbs. any advice on a smaller dog. i have been looking at vizslas. they are right around 50 lbs. how do they do in the cold. Thanks for any advice.

"I'm A Hunter, Not A Sportsman." - James Moorhead
Re: hunting dog help
by dschaible on 01/16/2012 12:48 PM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
dschaible
Joined: 04/03/2009
Location: ND
You could look into the Spaniels.  Springer, cocker, brittany.
Re: hunting dog help
by YarcraftStorm on 01/16/2012 12:52 PM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
YarcraftStorm
Joined: 07/14/2003
Location: ND
A Brittany would fit the bill. They are normally in the 35-45lb range and are excellent pointing dogs for NDs updalnd game.
Re: hunting dog help
by submoa on 01/16/2012 12:54 PM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
submoa
Joined: 12/18/2010
Location: nd
I have a English Pointer he is about 49 lbs. With his short hair I had to buy a vest, he gets cold easy but he also stays in the house WingBone my E.P. loves to hunt so much that it does not matter how cold it is. I hope this helped

Re: hunting dog help
by Jake G on 01/16/2012 2:36 PM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
Jake G
Joined: 07/17/2011
Location: nd

here is my little buddy. He is a great house dog and he is very loyal to his owner. He aims to please whenever we do any training or hunting or just playing. He is full grown and weighs about 40 lbs.
Jake G.
Re: hunting dog help
by fishnnut on 01/16/2012 2:38 PM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
fishnnut
Joined: 12/22/2001
Location: ND
English Cocker.. Very smart dogs smaller in size and great hunters and companions. Low maintance......
Re: hunting dog help
by vanhookguide on 01/16/2012 2:47 PM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
vanhookguide
Joined: 07/09/2009
Location: ND
I had an English Pointer and a Brittany. They were both awesome dogs. The pointer may have had a little more drive to hunt but the brit was great and what a house dog/pet/friend. Getting the burrs out of the Brittany is what they call an act of love. They'll curl up in your lap and moan while you deburr after a long day of hunting. Some of the pointers are pretty big boned and get over your 50# limit.
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by espringers on 01/16/2012 2:53 PM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
espringers
Joined: 07/25/2007
Location: ND
brits are good dogs.  same w/ english setters.  little high on energy.  but, most good hunting dogs are.  except for big greasy shedding labs.    ain't nothing wrong w/ a close hunting well trained springer either... but, i am kind of biased. 
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by onpoint! on 01/16/2012 4:09 PM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
onpoint!
Joined: 01/19/2003
Location: ND

+1 on the Brittany - great upland dogs with longer hair for cold December jaunts. amazing personalities, too, from the two i've owned and others i've seen.  males might get close to that 50+ lbs, but their standard is 30-40.
downsides?  1. they shed that fine white hair 2. they're a pointer, and have had a bit more sensitive, hyper character than other dogs i've known.  3. they're bound to get into your heart right away, so the thngs they destroy become dispensible.
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by FieldHunter on 01/16/2012 4:17 PM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
FieldHunter
Joined: 08/22/2010
Location: ND
Im a lab guy.. But I have hunted with these dogs and I think this is what you need.

http://www.ndbirddogs.com/
Re: hunting dog help
by onpoint! on 01/16/2012 4:56 PM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
onpoint!
Joined: 01/19/2003
Location: ND
guy i know has a french brittany and is thrilled with it; he used to be a lab-guy, too, so be careful you aren't converted FH...
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by tearbear on 01/16/2012 5:05 PM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
tearbear
Joined: 11/12/2007
Location: ND
I have a little brittany! Love her to death! Sweetest disposition of any dog I've ever owned , great in the house and  in the field! She weighs right at 32#. Calm in the house and a fireplug in the field! I highly reccomend looking over parent stock closely before you choose, I did and happy for it. Some brits can be very high strung and hard to handle, mines a dream.
Re: hunting dog help
by Little Elvis on 01/16/2012 6:11 PM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
Little Elvis
Joined: 12/21/2003
Location: ND
mdart90 Said:
i started bird hunting two seasons ago and loved it since. i have been looking to get a bird dog... however where i am moving to only allows dogs under 50 lbs. any advice on a smaller dog. i have been looking at vizslas. they are right around 50 lbs. how do they do in the cold. Thanks for any advice.


I am going to be a dick here but if you are moving into an apartment please save the dog the pain and wait till you can have a better living environment for the pooch....if not i guess you can disregard statement..
Re: hunting dog help
by wslayer on 01/16/2012 6:51 PM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
wslayer
Joined: 07/27/2002
Location: ND
Little Elvis Said:
mdart90 Said:
i started bird hunting two seasons ago and loved it since. i have been looking to get a bird dog... however where i am moving to only allows dogs under 50 lbs. any advice on a smaller dog. i have been looking at vizslas. they are right around 50 lbs. how do they do in the cold. Thanks for any advice.


I am going to be a dick here but if you are moving into an apartment please save the dog the pain and wait till you can have a better living environment for the pooch....if not i guess you can disregard statement..
   Doesn't say anything about an apartment????????? But I know where your coming from. They need some "space"
Re: hunting dog help
by felix1 on 01/16/2012 7:13 PM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
felix1
Joined: 08/23/2005
Location: ND
To answer your question a viszla would fit the bill great, I own one (along with two german shorthairs) and they will fit any hunting situation you may encounter. Mine takes the cold as well as any shorthaired dog (and i do not use a vest or anything). I've hunted all the dogs in well below zero temps for extended periods of time and they haven't showed any signs of complaining.
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by Meelosh on 01/16/2012 8:27 PM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
Meelosh
Joined: 05/26/2006
Location: ND
An english springer spaniel would fit the bill. VERY hyper dogs though. Be ready to exercise them a lot.

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Re: hunting dog help
by Duckslayer100 on 01/17/2012 11:32 AM | Reply #16 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
Duckslayer100
Joined: 09/25/2003
Location: ND
I have a male German wirehaired pointer that hovers right under 50 pounds. Great hunter, lots of energy in the field and an absolute bird nut, but a great house dog, too. And even as a puppy, he never destroyed anything. Loves people, and especially kids. 

Like him because he's a versatile dog: does it all from field to water. I hunted him from August through December on everything from geese in the field to pheasants in CRP to roughed grouse in the woods.

Don't think I'll ever own another breed of dog other than a GWP.

Re: hunting dog help
by bobkat on 01/17/2012 12:19 PM | Reply #17 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
bobkat
Joined: 12/16/2001
Location: ND
English Cocker would be perfect, even in an apartment.   Few hunting dogs would do OK in an apartment or condo, IMO.  HOWEVER, for your situation I'd advise an older one as pups would probably chew your apartment to little bits, and what they don't eat they'd tear the rest to pieces.  The end result would be worth it but it'd be frustrating at times with any hunting breed pup to say the least.
We always joke and say we should have named our  new 6 month old E cocker  Miss Chief, or Miss Behavin, and sometimes even Miss Steak and often Miss Chainsaw!  And she has 40 acres to run around in and me being retired have all day to train her and exercise her too, which I do, several times a day, too..
This is our 4th generation E Cocker and we love her to death and already she is a fantastic natural hunting dog/retriever and loves my amateur agility training too.  I've never had a bad E Cocker with their natural windshield wiper 20 - 30 yard pattern and natural retrievers, swim like fish, and they are the best dog I've ever seen that needed minimal training yet can be exccellent hunting dogs despite neglected training, and I've hunted behind all kinds of half trained dogs where you'd have done much better by shooting the dog THEN going hunting. Cockers simply DON'T range out too far like most others do. 

BUT having said that, if I were in an apartment I'd get another E Cocker, but DEFINITELY NOT a pup.  I'd go get a 2 - 3 year old reject from the field trial circuit from one of the many excellent rainers in the Bis area, and we have three national top trainers within 6 miles of my place.  Great dogs, but not quite the drive and pizzaz it takes to win field trials.   If they don't have such a dog the'd probably know where to find one.  You'd get a pup already housebroken, well over the chewing stage, well trained for hunting, etc.  and mellow and past the climb the wall stage that they all have in the first year..   This advice could be applicable for any breed, though..
Re: hunting dog help
by bobkat on 01/17/2012 12:22 PM | Reply #18 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
bobkat
Joined: 12/16/2001
Location: ND
Also, if you are not into field trialing or breeding and want just a real good family member and weekend hunting dog, DON"T FORGET THE LOCAL POUND.    They often have good dogs, often purebreds or hunting mixes that turn out to be excellent hunters.  Dogs that are given up by owners who are moving, divorce, or 1000 other reasons they can't keep a dog.    This past fall I hunted behind three such dogs, one a purebred, the others accidental  crosses of hunting breeds, and all were  some of the best huntiers I've seen.   One a spaniel/lab, a bit of setter/golden in one, etc.   Remember, you can't get a dog from them unles it is fixed, no matter how reputable a trainer or dog person you are.   A neutered pound dog did really well in a Springer field trial a couple years ago.   He had papers but no jewels! 
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by DDriessen on 01/17/2012 5:53 PM | Reply #19 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
DDriessen
Joined: 12/01/2009
Location: ND

Whoa...back the horse up.  While I agree with everyone that the dogs mentioned in this post are great dogs, they may not be the "right" dog for this individual.

Couple of really important questions need to be answered before I think input on a breed can be given.

What is your lifestyle?  active or passive? How much time do you have each day to excercise your dog (different breeds have different needs)?  How often do you hunt?  Weekends only?  What type of bird hunting do you do?  Spouse? Children? 

I am not asking you to answer these questions on here, but those are some of the questions one needs to really answer to find the right dog.

There is a reason there are dogs at the pound.  Most of the time it is because people buy the wrong dog for themselves or their families. 

Think about the questions above and do some research AKC.org is a great resource for learning about different breeds.  Ask more questions than just "what dog".  find the dog that fits you and life will be a lot easier.

Dan
Take a kid hunting instead of hunting for your kid.

First I am a Dad, then a husband, then a hunter.  Sometimes I get the husband and hunter mixed up, but luckily my wife remembers what order they should be in. :-)
Re: hunting dog help
by mdart90 on 01/17/2012 9:15 PM | Reply #20 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |
mdart90
Joined: 04/05/2011
Location: ND
wslayer Said:
Little Elvis Said:
mdart90 Said:
i started bird hunting two seasons ago and loved it since. i have been looking to get a bird dog... however where i am moving to only allows dogs under 50 lbs. any advice on a smaller dog. i have been looking at vizslas. they are right around 50 lbs. how do they do in the cold. Thanks for any advice.


I am going to be a dick here but if you are moving into an apartment please save the dog the pain and wait till you can have a better living environment for the pooch....if not i guess you can disregard statement..
   Doesn't say anything about an apartment????????? But I know where your coming from. They need some "space"


no its not an apartment, im going to be renting a house. And its the owners wishes so im going to respect it. but i understand what your saying.

"I'm A Hunter, Not A Sportsman." - James Moorhead
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