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How much farther does a pointer travel than hunter?

by , Posted to on 11/27/2011 9:08 PM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/27/2011
Location: ND
Anyone know on average how much farther a Brittany (or any pointer) travels on a pheasant hunt than us humans?  I've heard 3x, 5x, etc but after walking 8 miles today it got me to wondering what the dogs covered. 
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by on 11/27/2011 9:51 PM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/09/2002
Location: ND
I know people have put gps units on them. IMHO, a GSP travels 20x what I do in the field. Damn impressive if I may say.
“Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.” ~ Mark Twain
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by on 11/27/2011 10:58 PM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/07/2009
Location: nd
My brother put a GPS on his shorthair, we walked a mile long field down and back, and in that time the dog covered 12 miles.
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by on 11/28/2011 00:48 AM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 04/06/2008
Location: ND
And if you think a pointer covers that much more than the hunter, imagine how many more miles a flusher/retriever will put on compared to that pointer.
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by on 11/28/2011 01:58 AM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/14/2002
Location: ND
mod1220ga Said:
And if you think a pointer covers that much more than the hunter, imagine how many more miles a flusher/retriever will put on compared to that pointer.
No your wrong pointers covers a hell of alot more.  See they have to cut the sent 5 or 6 times before they smell it.  Labs only have to cut it once, there for alot less miles. 

 


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by on 11/28/2011 06:56 AM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/09/2002
Location: ND
More like, a flusher had damn well better stay within shotgun range of the hunter.  The intelligent dog which won't flush the birds can range a lot farther and patiently await the hunter.  GSP's put a lot more miles on in the field than a flusher.
“Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.” ~ Mark Twain
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by on 11/28/2011 07:34 AM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/12/2007
Location: ND
Was out yesterday with my little brittany and a friends lab. I know my brit covered at least twice the ground as the lab! To answer the question I would guess a good dog will cover 10-20 times more ground than you will. A good reminder is to keep your dog hydrated while in the field!
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by on 11/28/2011 07:45 AM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/10/2006
Location: ND

A big ranging pointer I would say around 10 to 1.

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by on 11/28/2011 09:20 AM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/02/2006
Location: ND
I have a rule on upland dogs.  They have to work at least as hard as I do.   I have seen to many labs that don't meet that rule.   I am walking in the cattails and the Lab is walking the edge.   With my Wire Hair,  she goes into the tough stuff and I can stay on the edge.
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by on 11/28/2011 09:26 AM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/24/2010
Location: ND
The reason you have seen more "labs" walking the edge is not because they are "labs", it is because of how they were trained, plain and simple. 
Candiru Said:
I have a rule on upland dogs.  They have to work at least as hard as I do.   I have seen to many labs that don't meet that rule.   I am walking in the cattails and the Lab is walking the edge.   With my Wire Hair,  she goes into the tough stuff and I can stay on the edge.


 
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by on 11/28/2011 2:09 PM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 03/09/2009
Location: ND
I am not so sure about training but no doubt they were not in shape.
Which of course is part of training. The best trained dog will be walking the edge if he is not in shape. Cattails are rough on man and beast.
taylorman_55 Said:
The reason you have seen more "labs" walking the edge is not because they are "labs", it is because of how they were trained, plain and simple. 
Candiru Said:
I have a rule on upland dogs.  They have to work at least as hard as I do.   I have seen to many labs that don't meet that rule.   I am walking in the cattails and the Lab is walking the edge.   With my Wire Hair,  she goes into the tough stuff and I can stay on the edge.




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by on 11/28/2011 2:09 PM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 03/09/2009
Location: ND
I am not so sure about training but no doubt they were not in shape.
Which of course is part of training. The best trained dog will be walking the edge if he is not in shape. Cattails are rough on man and beast.
taylorman_55 Said:
The reason you have seen more "labs" walking the edge is not because they are "labs", it is because of how they were trained, plain and simple. 
Candiru Said:
I have a rule on upland dogs.  They have to work at least as hard as I do.   I have seen to many labs that don't meet that rule.   I am walking in the cattails and the Lab is walking the edge.   With my Wire Hair,  she goes into the tough stuff and I can stay on the edge.




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by on 11/28/2011 3:20 PM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/19/2005
Location: ND

We were discussing this same topic yesterday while watching our wirhairs work their asses off!  Damn tough hunting in the SE part of the state but the dogs don't seem to mind.  I know my dog was tired and very sore last night after a tough day!  We did manage to find a couple though.  Although an expensive day due to the loss of the remote for my Dogtra NCP 200 gold.  $125 later and I should have one by the end of the week!  This hunting just never gets cheaper!

Hunt today like there may be no tomorrow!
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by on 11/28/2011 3:41 PM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 05/07/2009
Location: ND
Some dogs just have to put on more miles due to lack of a nose, so they run around like the have their head cut off rather than getting down to business.

I agree with the training, a good trained dog will get after it in big cover.  At the same time, a good trained dog will stay close and thus put on less miles.

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by on 11/28/2011 3:43 PM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/05/2010
Location: nd
I consider people that hunt with pointers or flushing dogs right on par with people that deer hunt over bait....It's just too easy
 
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by on 11/28/2011 3:46 PM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/12/2003
Location: ND
I put a GPS on my black lab-English pointer mutt,she averaged about 2-3 miles for every mile I walked.Could not believe how many miles she put on in one day,this was hunting shaptails...
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by on 11/28/2011 3:46 PM | Reply #16 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/19/2005
Location: ND
BringingTheRain Said:
I consider people that hunt with pointers or flushing dogs right on par with people that deer hunt over bait....It's just too easy


I will challenge anyone to hunt the SE part of the state without a dog! 
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by on 11/28/2011 3:48 PM | Reply #17 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 05/26/2006
Location: ND
BringingTheRain Said:
I consider people that hunt with pointers or flushing dogs right on par with people that deer hunt over bait....It's just too easy
Get bent.

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by on 11/28/2011 4:15 PM | Reply #18 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/24/2004
Location: ND
bringin..... ah man  ... the haves and have nots huh? 

"Some dogs just have to put on more miles due to lack of a nose" --- Wrong

Some pointing breeds were bread to be hunted behind with a horse -- hence the ranging ---ie greyhound portion of a GSP.

taylorman_55 Said:
The reason you have seen more "labs" walking the edge is not because they are "labs", it is because of how they were trained, plain and simple. 
Candiru Said:
I have a rule on upland dogs.  They have to work at least as hard as I do.   I have seen to many labs that don't meet that rule.   I am walking in the cattails and the Lab is walking the edge.   With my Wire Hair,  she goes into the tough stuff and I can stay on the edge.


I  disagree with Taylorman ----- the dog is bread to hunt.   Remember that --- when you train the dog --- your goal is to train the dog to do things you like a dog to do when in the field.    You learn quickly when your dog pops out of the tails on the edge so to speak and you want him / her to come back in $hit so to speak.  Where does the bird lift off from --- where the dog was.     Follow your dog -forget about your buddies - let the dog find the bird -- you do the shooting -- thats all you need to worry about. 

 

Stay thirsty my friends
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by on 11/28/2011 4:21 PM | Reply #19 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 05/08/2007
Location: ND
All I can say is that it is sure fun to watch any of them . We had my sons springer out this weekend . He got on a what i found out later was the largest rooster i have shot this year . Anyhow his tail is just about ready to all off its twitching so fast and he is like he is on steroids cause we are in a light cover area so both him and the bird are all over the place . Finally after about 2 minutes he gets him up 23.75 inch tail feathers
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by on 11/28/2011 4:33 PM | Reply #20 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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