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How can ANYONE have voted for this man

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Obama: Not Always a Fan of Upping Debt Ceiling




 


While President Obama’s economic advisor Austin Goolsbee argued Sunday that a refusal by the Senate to increase the government’s debt ceiling (currently $14.3 trillion) would be “catastrophic” and a sign of “insanity,” that’s not the position the president has held in the past.


Here are Obama’s thoughts on the debt limit in 2006, when he voted against increasing the ceiling:



The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.


WOW!!!!!!!!!

 

 
Wonderful Reagan quote that says it like it is! "It isn't that Liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so much that isn't so."
Re: How can ANYONE have voted for this man
by on 01/04/2011 7:09 PM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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 Emphasis on the last sentence!
Re: How can ANYONE have voted for this man
by on 01/04/2011 7:20 PM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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how this clown got elected is beyond belief.
Re: How can ANYONE have voted for this man
by on 01/04/2011 7:34 PM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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eyexer Said:
how this clown got elected is beyond belief.

Affirmative Action?   No other legit way imho.
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Re: How can ANYONE have voted for this man
by on 01/04/2011 8:15 PM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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 Some may call this a racist remark but it is the truth. Obama, while it is still not clear that he is even a natural born US citizen, bought the vote from the inner city Ghettos. promising single, poor, and the elderly that if they elect him, he will pay their lights, houses, cars, food and phone bills. Most of these people had never voted before. I have a friend that lives in Hawaii and most common folk, average joes aka middle class are calling for proof of where he was born, There are doctors there that had worked at the hospital of said birth that have no memory of his birth. That and being able to be a good reader of a teleprompter got him elected.  
IT IS BETTER TO ASK FOR FORGIVENESS THAN ASK FOR PERMISSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: How can ANYONE have voted for this man
by on 01/04/2011 8:26 PM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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thats not racist at all. its the truth
the more food you have in your mouth, the better you can taste it !!
Re: How can ANYONE have voted for this man
by on 01/04/2011 8:55 PM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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You also had George W Bush along with a GOP congress growing gov't like it had not grown since LBJ's great society, spending like a drunken sailer, practicing crony captialism, practicing an open borders policy, and starting 2 wars that he did not have the stones to win.  They destroyed the Republican brand name.
Re: How can ANYONE have voted for this man
by on 01/04/2011 9:10 PM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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I have to disagree with you that Bush spent like a drunken sailor. I spoke with a drunken sailor and he never spent money like Bush did. :) I liked Bush even though I didn't agree with a lot of what he did. I still respect the man. 
Candiru Said:
You also had George W Bush along with a GOP congress growing gov't like it had not grown since LBJ's great society, spending like a drunken sailer, practicing crony captialism, practicing an open borders policy, and starting 2 wars that he did not have the stones to win.  They destroyed the Republican brand name.


IT IS BETTER TO ASK FOR FORGIVENESS THAN ASK FOR PERMISSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: How can ANYONE have voted for this man
by on 01/04/2011 9:32 PM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Candiru Said:
You also had George W Bush along with a GOP congress growing gov't like it had not grown since LBJ's great society, spending like a drunken sailer, practicing crony captialism, practicing an open borders policy, and starting 2 wars that he did not have the stones to win.  They destroyed the Republican brand name.

and as bad as that was, Obama in two years was able to make that look like childs play.  amazing isn't it?
Re: How can ANYONE have voted for this man
by on 01/05/2011 09:45 AM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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I know NOTHING about debt cielings or economics or anything like that, but there is always two sides to a coin, and what appears on the surface is rarely the entire story.  So when I saw this post I started researching the pros and cons of raising the cebt ceilings, which on first blush, definitely would seem to be a BAD thing!    However, from what I've been reading and able to digest, its seems far from as simple as the first impressions and knee jerk reaction of "rasing the debt ceiling" made on me.   The following is just one example of the opinions and editorials from the economic types in the news. 
Interesting stuff though I know and understand nothing about it and have no opinions on it.  Thought I'd post it to illustrate how things are NEVER as simple as one or the other side puts it..    Also, it seems a lot of both Republicans AND Democrats are on both sides of this question.   Here's a quick example of the debate....

"Another issue to draw the partisan battle lines -- raising the debt ceiling.

The debt ceiling, a cap set by Congress on the amount of debt the federal government can legally borrow, is currently set at $14.294 trillion.

According to the Congressional Research Service, failing to raise it could be devastating to the world economy: "Not only the default but efforts to resolve it would arguably have negative repercussions on both domestic and international financial markets and economies."

Frequently asked questions on the debt ceiling

Rudolph Penner, the former Congressional Budget Office director, said that the default could hurt U.S. bonds, the dollar and investors' portfolios, adding that "our bond market and stock market would crash."

It's a sentiment echoed by Austan Goolsbee, chairman of the Council for Economic Advisers. Appearing on ABC's "This Week," Goolsbee said that if the debt ceiling isn't raised, the result could be "catastrophic" and "totally unprecedented in American history."

"The impact on the economy would be catastrophic," he said. "I mean, that would be a worse financial economic crisis than anything we saw in 2008."


 

Re: How can ANYONE have voted for this man
by on 01/05/2011 10:19 AM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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simmsjs Said:
 Some may call this a racist remark but it is the truth. Obama, while it is still not clear that he is even a natural born US citizen, bought the vote from the inner city Ghettos. promising single, poor, and the elderly that if they elect him, he will pay their lights, houses, cars, food and phone bills. Most of these people had never voted before. I have a friend that lives in Hawaii and most common folk, average joes aka middle class are calling for proof of where he was born, There are doctors there that had worked at the hospital of said birth that have no memory of his birth. That and being able to be a good reader of a teleprompter got him elected.  
You are dead on , if you look at the voting precincts etc, it is amazing to see what areas of each state he won

Re: How can ANYONE have voted for this man
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Pheasant 54 Said:
simmsjs Said:
 Some may call this a racist remark but it is the truth. Obama, while it is still not clear that he is even a natural born US citizen, bought the vote from the inner city Ghettos. promising single, poor, and the elderly that if they elect him, he will pay their lights, houses, cars, food and phone bills. Most of these people had never voted before. I have a friend that lives in Hawaii and most common folk, average joes aka middle class are calling for proof of where he was born, There are doctors there that had worked at the hospital of said birth that have no memory of his birth. That and being able to be a good reader of a teleprompter got him elected.  
You are dead on , if you look at the voting precincts etc, it is amazing to see what areas of each state he won


Amazing to whom?
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Re: How can ANYONE have voted for this man
by on 01/05/2011 10:31 AM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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I should have phrased that differently , I meant the small amount of land mass , but population density he controlled.  I have not done any research on the average annual earnings on these areas but I can only imagine
Re: How can ANYONE have voted for this man
by on 01/05/2011 10:37 AM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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I honestly agree with most of you.  Things are getting way out of control.  People need to stop thinking about the next time they vote that I am going democrat or republican.  Bush did some things we didn't like and now Obama is doing that also.  People need to review the presidents voting record before they become president.  You all would be totally amazed!  It honestly doesn't matter if a candidate is  a Democrat or Republican, the only difference between anyone anymore is that if they are conservative or liberal.  Thats is simple at it gets.  There are many, many liberal republicans in our government, and alot of people think that isn't the way it is.  It's time to wake up and take a serious look at our candidates before they make it this far.  Why does everyone seem to want to vote in a famous senetor or governor because of a popular last name. This country is going to hell faster than I think most of us thought.  Why not elect a independant?  Hell, I think they couldn't screw up the country any worse.  Just maybe it would be a good thing.
Re: How can ANYONE have voted for this man
by on 01/05/2011 12:26 PM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Obama will certainly be a one termer.  The country rid itself of GWB and will rid itself of Obama for the very same reasons since he has taken it to a whole new level.
Re: How can ANYONE have voted for this man
by on 01/05/2011 12:49 PM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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But what's a jackpipe?
Re: How can ANYONE have voted for this man
by on 01/07/2011 08:43 AM | Reply #16 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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How could anyone have voted for this man?? This is funny guys. Look where Bush took us. Are you all happy with the mess he created? Talk about run away spending and total lack of gray matter. Uh,,...lets really ramp up the spending , cut taxes and things will work out right? Conservative fiscal policy I think not. The war in Iraq, Big business getting contracts with no competition from other companies once there,... Ie Haliburton, Custer BAttles (d) Corruption rampant possibly???
The only thing that makes me wonder about Obama's sanity is who would have even wanted to be president
with the chaos he inherited. Oh, and Obama was born in the USA. EVen the sobbing, blubbering, merlot drinking, chain smoking Boehner admits that!
Re: How can ANYONE have voted for this man
by on 01/07/2011 09:20 AM | Reply #17 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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you Obama supporters crack me up.....here is what he would do if he could....the liberals never have enough.....his buds in IL are pushing for huge tax increases...

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/01/06/tax-increase-plan-bigger-than-expected/
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Re: How can ANYONE have voted for this man
by on 01/07/2011 09:42 AM | Reply #18 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Huge tax increases Gut shot? Unless you make over $250000 you got a tax break. Well, the rich are protected for at least another two years. Someone with a million dollar income will pocket another $100,000. What "cracks me UP" is the reaction right wingers have in regard to taxes. We're not going to grow our way out of this mess the gop has gotten us into. Only the right wingers seem to believe lowering taxes will some how decrease the deficit. It also seems the repubs have had some of the most outlandish budgets going back to Reagen. It doesn't seem to bother you though when companies get so large and powerful that they either directly or indirectly totally control your very life The problem is not all people are honorable. If given the chance, unfortunately human greed will do unspeakable things all in the name of what a lot of people worship in this country,...the almight dollar.
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by on 01/07/2011 09:47 AM | Reply #19 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Now THERE'S PROOF!       Hope you are never on MY jury, Jim! 

"there are doctors there that had worked at the hospital of said birth that have no memory of his birth."

In my previous life I've personally been closely involved in well over 4,000 babies being delivered, (totalled em up for a nusance lawsuit once)  and probably somewhere around in the area of other births -  maybe another 25,000!     Yes Jim and other conspiracty theorists, I remember every single one of them!   Absolutely, especially when some of them were close to 50 years ago!   
On a good day a good obstetrician MIGHT remember a small handfull, with a few notable  exceptions, of course. But individually, not a chance! 
This is the sort of nonsense that gets parrotted aloing in the internet.   All it does is destroys the cridibility of the "Obama is not a citizen" bunch!    Even if what they continue to say were true and Obama were actually born in Lower Sobovia (I have NO idea, myself)  no one in their right mind who is the least bit objective, would ever believe crap like this as evidence, even vaguely circumstantial!!  Goes back to the fact that most people believe what they want to believe, no more, no less! 
Hope you are a better ice fisherman than you are deep thinker, Jim!  LOL  Good luck in Pollock!  
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by on 01/07/2011 09:49 AM | Reply #20 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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fishmahn Said:
The only thing that makes me wonder about Obama's sanity is who would have even wanted to be president
Very valid point!!  Point of fact is that the very best, smartest, and most capable leaders avoid such an office like the plague.  IMO, since Ike left office the presidency has been about power and ego.  Let me rephrase, it's been about EGO and then power, influence, etc.

I can't blame the best and brightest for avoiding the poop-storm associated with being elected to and governing from public office.  Whom of any intelligence wants to put their family or themselves through that voluntarily?
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