Horse Slaughter for Food Approved In U.S.

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Horse Slaughter for Food Approved In U.S.

 
 

Cheri White Owl, founder of Horse Feathers Equine Rescue, is pictured with one of the 33 horses she is currently caring for in Guthrie, Okla. Slaughterhouses could be ready to kill horses within a month if the U.S. Department of Agriculture provides funding for meat inspectors. (AP Photo/Sue Ogrocki)
 
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TULSA, Okla. (AP) -- Horses could soon be butchered in the U.S. for human consumption after Congress quietly lifted a 5-year-old ban on funding horse meat inspections, and activists say slaughterhouses could be up and running in as little as a month.

Slaughter opponents pushed a measure cutting off funding for horse meat inspections through Congress in 2006 after other efforts to pass outright bans on horse slaughter failed in previous years. Congress lifted the ban in a spending bill President Barack Obama signed into law Nov. 18 to keep the government afloat until mid-December.

It did not, however, allocate any new money to pay for horse meat inspections, which opponents claim could cost taxpayers $3 million to $5 million a year. The U.S. Department of Agriculture would have to find the money in its existing budget, which is expected to see more cuts this year as Congress and the White House aim to trim federal spending.

The USDA issued a statement Tuesday saying there are no slaughterhouses in the U.S. that butcher horses for human consumption now, but if one were to open, it would conduct inspections to make sure federal laws were being followed. USDA spokesman Neil Gaffney declined to answer questions beyond what was in the statement.

The last U.S. slaughterhouse that butchered horses closed in 2007 in Illinois, and animal welfare activists warned of massive public outcry in any town where a slaughterhouse may open.

"If plants open up in Oklahoma or Nebraska, you'll see controversy, litigation, legislative action and basically a very inhospitable environment to operate," predicted Wayne Pacelle, president and chief executive of The Humane Society of the United States. "Local opposition will emerge and you'll have tremendous controversy over slaughtering Trigger and Mr. Ed."

But pro-slaughter activists say the ban had unintended consequences, including an increase in neglect and the abandonment of horses, and that they are scrambling to get a plant going -- possibly in Wyoming, North Dakota, Nebraska or Missouri. They estimate a slaughterhouse could open in 30 to 90 days with state approval and eventually as many as 200,000 horses a year could be slaughtered for human consumption. Most of the meat would be shipped to countries in Europe and Asia, including France and Japan.

Dave Duquette, president of the nonprofit, pro-slaughter group United Horsemen, said no state or site has been picked yet but he's lined up plenty of investors who have expressed interest in financing a processing plant. While the last three slaughterhouses in the U.S. were owned by foreign companies, he said a new plant would be American-owned.

"I have personally probably five to 10 investors that I could call right now if I had a plant ready to go," said Duquette, who lives in Hermiston, Ore. He added, "If one plant came open in two weeks, I'd have enough money to fund it. I've got people who will put up $100,000."

Sue Wallis, a Wyoming state lawmaker who's the group's vice president, said ranchers used to be able to sell horses that were too old or unfit for work to slaughterhouses but now they have to ship them to butchers in Canada and Mexico, where they fetch less than half the price.

The federal ban devastated "an entire sector of animal agriculture for purely sentimental and romantic notions," she said.

Although there are reports of Americans dining on horse meat a recently as the 1940s, the practice is virtually non-existent in this country, where the animals are treated as beloved pets and iconic symbols of the West.

Lawmakers in California and Illinois have banned the slaughter of horses for human consumption, and more than a dozen states tightly regulate the sale of horse meat.

Federal lawmakers' lifting of the ban on funding for horse meat inspections came about in part because of the recession, which struck just as slaughtering stopped. A federal report issued in June found that local animal welfare organizations reported a spike in investigations for horse neglect and abandonment since 2007. In Colorado, for example, data showed that investigations for horse neglect and abuse increased more than 60 percent -- from 975 in 2005 to almost 1,600 in 2009.

The report from the U.S. Government Accountability Office also determined that about 138,000 horses were transported to Canada and Mexico for slaughter in 2010, nearly the same number that were killed in the U.S. before the ban took effect in 2007. The U.S. has an estimated 9 million horses.

Cheri White Owl, founder of the nonprofit Horse Feathers Equine Rescue in Guthrie, Okla., said she's seen more horse neglect during the recession. Her group is caring for 33 horses now and can't accept more.

"A lot of the situation is due to the economy," she said, "People deciding to pay their mortgage or keep their horse."

But White Owl worries that if slaughterhouses open, owners will dump their unwanted animals there instead of looking for alternatives, such as animal sanctuaries.

Animal rights groups also argue that slaughtering is a messy, cruel process, and some say it would be kinder for owners to have their horses put to sleep by a veterinarian.

"Euthanasia has always been an option," Pacelle said. But "if you acquire a horse, you should be a responsible owner and provide lifetime care."

The fight over horse slaughtering has pitted lawmakers of the same party against each other.

Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., said the poor economy has resulted in "sad cases" of horse abandonment and neglect and lifting the ban will give Americans a shot at regaining lost jobs and making sure sick horses aren't abandoned or mistreated.

But U.S. Rep. Jim Moran, D-Va., is lobbying colleagues to permanently ban horse slaughter because he believes the process is inhumane.

"I am committed to doing everything in my power to prevent the resumption of horse slaughter and will force Congress to debate this important policy in an open, democratic manner at every opportunity," he said in a statement

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Its about time, letting horses die and rot instead of putting them to good use is one of the dumbest things that has happened in a long time. Id guess more horse meat will make its way into dog food than grocery stores, but at least it will be used now instead of wasted.

 

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 I almost fell off the toilet seat as I read Baucus was okay with it. 


 

 

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Haha. 

Is it impious to weigh goose music and art in the same scales? I think not, because the true hunter is merely a noncreative artist. Who painted the first picture on a bone in the caves of France? A hunter. Who alone in our modern life so thrills to the sight of living beauty that he will endure hunger and thirst and cold to feed his eye upon it? The hunter. Who wrote the great hunter's poem about the sheer wonder of the wind, the hail, and the snow, the stars, the lightnings, and the clouds, the lion, the deer, and the wild goat, the raven, the hawk, and the eagle, and above all the eulogy to the horse? Job, one of the great dramatic artists of all time. Poets sing and hunters scale the mountains primarily for one and the same reason--the thrill of beauty. Critics write and hunters outwit their game primarily for one and the same reason--to reduce that beauty to possession. The differences are largely matters of degree, consciousness, and that sly arbiter of the classification of human activities, language. If, then, we can live without goose music, we may as well do away with stars, or sunsets, or Iliads. But the point is we would be fools to do away with any of them. 

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Anybody ever tried it? Can't be too bad I wouldn't think?



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 I almost fell off the toilet seat as I read Baucus was okay with it. 

Haha - glad im not the only one who does most of my internet surfing on the crapper

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will it be cheaper then beef???

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Anybody ever tried it? Can't be too bad I wouldn't think?

I am sure we have all eaten worse.

Seems that over seas they eat a lot of it, look how nice their teeth are.

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I'm sure Karen Thunshelle is having a brain aneurysm over this.

Is it impious to weigh goose music and art in the same scales? I think not, because the true hunter is merely a noncreative artist. Who painted the first picture on a bone in the caves of France? A hunter. Who alone in our modern life so thrills to the sight of living beauty that he will endure hunger and thirst and cold to feed his eye upon it? The hunter. Who wrote the great hunter's poem about the sheer wonder of the wind, the hail, and the snow, the stars, the lightnings, and the clouds, the lion, the deer, and the wild goat, the raven, the hawk, and the eagle, and above all the eulogy to the horse? Job, one of the great dramatic artists of all time. Poets sing and hunters scale the mountains primarily for one and the same reason--the thrill of beauty. Critics write and hunters outwit their game primarily for one and the same reason--to reduce that beauty to possession. The differences are largely matters of degree, consciousness, and that sly arbiter of the classification of human activities, language. If, then, we can live without goose music, we may as well do away with stars, or sunsets, or Iliads. But the point is we would be fools to do away with any of them. 

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Max Baucus from Montana?  Heck, he's one of the middle of the road Dems. Not a cowboy, but pretty down to earth.    If we could clone him and get rid of Pelosi and
Feinstein......

Question, can horses still be slaughtered for dog food or is it just human consumption that the antis were aiming at?  I've eaten horsemeat and its not bad at all.  Tastes a bit like ???caribou?? maybe.   Not bad at all.....

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Its about time, I'm starving.

I dont go around guessing cup sizes either I just know a nice rack when I see one.

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Horse meat is quite tasty. I have only eaten the hamburger and summer sausage but working on getting a thick steak to try. Very lean and heart healthy.

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Veronese Horse Meat Stew Recipe - Pastissada de Caval

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Yes, caval means horse, and this is indeed a traditional Veronese horse meat stew, made with Amarone wine and paprika to taste -- the former local, and the latter revealing Austro-Hungarian influences from the period when the Veneto was part of the Austrian empire.
If the idea of eating horse bothers you, you can use beef instead -- it won't be quite as rich in iron, but will still be very good.

Prep Time: 35 minutes

Cook Time: 2 hours

Total Time: 2 hours, 35 minutes

Ingredients:

  • 2 pounds (1 k) horsemeat, cut from the rump, or beef if you must
     
  • 2 sticks celery
     
  • 2-3 carrots
     
  • 1 large onion
     
  • 4 cloves
     
  • A dozen coriander seeds
     
  • 1 bay leaf
     
  • 1 clove garlic
  • 2 ounces (50 g) lard or porkback fat
     
  • 1/4 cup olive oil
     
  • 1 bottle full bodied, dry red wine - Purists call for Reiciotto Amarone or Valpolicella Superiore, but a less expensive red will work just as well
     
  • Salt & Pepper to taste
     
  • 1 tablespoon butter kneaded in flour
     
  • Flour
     
  • Paprika to taste (2-3 tablesoons, not too strong)

Preparation:

Lardoon the meat with the lard and slivers of carrots. Dice the other vegetables and put them with the meat and the spices except the paprika in a bowl; pour the wine over everything, cover and marinate in the refrigerator for three days, turning the meat occasionally.

Pat the meat dry (reserve the vegetables and the marinade), flour it, and brown it in the oil, in a pot over a brisk flame. Add the vegetables, and when they've cooked for a few minutes, pour the marinade over the meat. Reduce the heat to a simmer and cook for about three hours. Once the meat is done, remove it to a platter and blend the sauce.

Return the sauce to the fire, thicken it with the butter-flour ball, and season it to taste with paprika. Pour the sauce over the meat and serve, with polenta and the side dishes you prefer.

 

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The facts regarding this are while Obama did sign a law into effect that ended the ban on the funding of inspections of the plants effectively shutting them down, There has been no appropriations of funding to restart the inspection process so that plants may begin processing and exportation as FDA inspected plants which in essence prevents them from operating.

So in reality there is no significant changes happening.
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/roswell-meat-company-sues-feds-over-delay-in-opening-horse-slaughterhouse/2012/12/20/dbf20c6a-4ae6-11e2-8758-b64a2997a921_story.html

Here in the US while possibly not impossible to get, horse meat for human consumption has been virtually nonexistant.

The primary markets are overseas.

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The facts regarding this are while Obama did sign a law into effect that ended the ban on the funding of inspections of the plants effectively shutting them down, There has been no appropriations of funding to restart the inspection process so that plants may begin processing and exportation as FDA inspected plants which in essence prevents them from operating.

So in reality there is no significant changes happening.
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/roswell-meat-company-sues-feds-over-delay-in-opening-horse-slaughterhouse/2012/12/20/dbf20c6a-4ae6-11e2-8758-b64a2997a921_story.html

Here in the US while possibly not impossible to get, horse meat for human consumption has been virtually nonexistant.

The primary markets are overseas.

I was going to post this very link.  Can't wait to see how this plays out.

 

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Year after year more laws and regulations are passed in the name of protecting the food supply. That's a good thing. It costs big bucks to hire inspectors and meet all the rules and regulations.

Not just Congress but when the people demand more rules and regs they are then required to fund them. The slaughter plants would be required to operate under these rules and regs with no funding. That is an unfunded mandate.

If Congress cannot fund its rule making, then change the rules. If the meat is being exported to Europe then let them write the rules that they can live with. Hell, maybe they would even fund the inspections.

The story here is not whether horses are pets and all that non-sense. The story is that Congress made expensive rules and then at a later date pulled the funding.

If they can do it to one industry they can do it to another. That's BS 

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nythoroughred Said:
 FYI,

http://thoroughbredconfidential.com/2012/09/27/eating-raw-horsemeat/

We have a new member joined today. The article you posted is about eating raw horse meat. Hardly a reason to swear off horsemeat totally.

nythoroughbred, are you an activist?

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Horse meat is quite tasty. I have only eaten the hamburger and summer sausage but working on getting a thick steak to try. Very lean and heart healthy.

I fried up some horse burger a few months ago and couldn't get myself to try it.   To me it smelled like horse sweat.  Maybe I'm a wimp but I through it out.  My wife didn't like the smell either.

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guywhofishes Said:
Anybody ever tried it? Can't be too bad I wouldn't think?

Several times.  It's very lean meat and can be a bit chewy, but I can't say I would pass it up if given another chance.  I've had horse, mule, donkey, zebra, and burro.  It's amazing what you can eat in south america.

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Rep. Jim Moran of Va. is leading the charge in Congress to ban horse slaughter. He wants to instill in us that it is inhumane. 

He can't even instill in his son that beating women is inhumane.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/12/Rep-Jim-Moran-s-Son-In-Trouble-Again-Pleads-Guilty-to-Beating-Up-Girlfriend



On Wednesday, Patrick Moran, the son of Congressman Jim Moran (D-VA), pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of domestic violence for beating up his girlfriend in public.

The Washington City Paper described the incident:

Moran and his girlfriend were fighting outside 14th Street bar The Getaway around 1:23 a.m. on Dec. 1, according to a police report, over Moran talking to another woman at the bar. Suddenly, Moran allegedly slammed his girlfriend's head into the bar's metal trash can cage.

After the attack, police described Moran's girlfriend as "bleeding heavily from her nose and also observed that her nose and right eye were extremely swollen." One of the ambulance technicians who transported her to Howard University Hospital told police that Moran appeared to have broken her nose and given her a skull fracture under her right eye.

Moran was arrested for felony domestic violence assault, but pleaded the charge down to simple assault today. He was sentenced to probation.

Mr. Moran resigned from his father's reelection campaign months earlier due to an unrelated incident.

 

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Anybody ever tried it? Can't be too bad I wouldn't think?

A lot like llama. 

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   You have to get ALL of the fat off before it is cooked or it does smell and taste like sweat. If prepared properly  it is good.

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Love the smell of horse sweat in the morning!!

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I've been accused of having a horse ........

 

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In 2006 Congress was pressured to cut the funding for horse slaughter inspections. You as a taxpayer saved $3 million per year.

Today the BLM has about 40,000 horses in holding facilties with zero adoptions and no home. Cost per year to the taxpayer. Feed and Yardage. $77 million per year.

Persons who owned horses as private property used to sell unwanted horses for $600 per head. Today that same horse is worth $10 bucks. Out of pocket "losses" to those persons; unknown..... Millions upon Millions.

What a wasted resource??????????

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What about dog food, does that also need to be federally inspected and controlled like every aspect of human food does.

They are livestock for cripesakes, if we have to many and cant fricken use them in some form or another WTF, our government leaders blow, or suck, or both. Why does crap like this even happen. Maybe we could round them up and turn them loose in DC. let the fools deal with them up close and personal.

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Maybe we should build some horse nursing homes and get them on Medicare/Medicaid?  After all, I used to watch Mr. Ed and I saw Black Beauty and Seabiscuit once.

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Right, Fritz!  I can't recall how many horses are caught from BLM land and fed, watered, and veterinaried at the tqaxpayers expense.   Absolutely silly and a horrible waste of money!   Millions and millions of dollars per year!
How about the slaughter for dog food?   I've never seen any dog food with horsemeat on the label - usually chickedm lamb, occasionally buffalo and stuff like that!?!

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I had a" burro-burrito" once, and a"Llama  Lamale" once.
I sure didn't notice any horse sweat small or taste, though.   

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What about dog food, does that also need to be federally inspected and controlled like every aspect of human food does.

They are livestock for cripesakes, if we have to many and cant fricken use them in some form or another WTF, our government leaders blow, or suck, or both. Why does crap like this even happen. Maybe we could round them up and turn them loose in DC. let the fools deal with them up close and personal.

Our gobment leaders listen to their constituents. What horse activists did was barrage them with a letter writing campaign. Mostly school kids and people who consider horses as pets. Rounding up horses and turning them loose in DC sounds fun until you have to follow all the rules and regs for a round up to occur.

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Right, Fritz!  I can't recall how many horses are caught from BLM land and fed, watered, and veterinaried at the tqaxpayers expense.   Absolutely silly and a horrible waste of money!   Millions and millions of dollars per year!
How about the slaughter for dog food?   I've never seen any dog food with horsemeat on the label - usually chickedm lamb, occasionally buffalo and stuff like that!?!

Most dog food is made from damaged grain, chicken guts, lamb parts, buffalo parts etc. Parts is parts.  

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I tried horse meat last summer ,if the guy hadn't told me what it was. iwould have guessed elk meat

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http://tuesdayshorse.wordpress.com/2004/07/17/protected-wild-horses-burros-overwhelm-federal-government/

Roughly 35,000 horses and burros are being fed by the Federal govt in feedlots.

http://www.animallawcoalition.com/wild-horses-and-burros/article/1366

Look to this link, they are simply a prettied up version of HSUS. Read how they beleive the wild horse and burro should be "managed".

•In FY 2010 there was a substantial increase in the budget for the wild horses and burros program for a total of $67,486,000 with the entire additional $26,873,000 to be used for rounding up 12,000 horses and holding what will be a total of about 40,000 horses in pens. (BLM report - 2010 Budget Justification)

•For FY 2011 BLM has requested an additional $12 million apparently to defray the costs of holding wild horses and burros in corrals and long term holding facilities and then an additional $42.5 million for the first of seven "preserves", "pastures" or feedlots in the midwest or east

67 million plus an additional 12 million and THEN and additional 42 million for the FIRST of SEVEN "preserves" 
 
So lets do the math, 7 X 42 = 294 +67 + 361 million +12 + 372 million dollars at the end of this program as it stands.

$372,000,000.00 for 35,00 horses comes out to roughly $10,000/horse
(this does also include costs for free roaming horses)

And people do not seem to realize that these numbers will keep increasing as the population continnues to grow uncontroled and costs rise thru inflation.

Hey I really do like horses ( I have 6 that we use ranching, there is something about a good horse that is good for a human, and they are a majestic animal)  but horse neglect, abuse and abandonment cases have increased 400% since the slaughter ban went into effect.

I admire those individuals that take it upon themselves to responsiby "rescue" and care for horses. And there should be appropriate numbers of wild horses on Federal lands where they can be controled.

But there NEEDS to be a place for unwanted horses to go, and private horse rescues can only handle so many, and the tax payer should not have to pay for the rest.

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I still think they would make great dog food, maybe we could use them for the supposed millions of Americans that are going to bed hungry tonight. It would save us millions and feed the hungry all in one easy process. Not to sound like an insensitive prick but something has to give we as a country cant take anymore. Its like a fat guy trying to put on a skinny dudes pants. The seems just aren't strong enough

Broke means no more money. Thats what my wife told me once anyway

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Anybody ever tried it? Can't be too bad I wouldn't think?

A lot like llama. 

I love llama

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I admire those individuals that take it upon themselves to responsiby "rescue" and care for horses. And there should be appropriate numbers of wild horses on Federal lands where they can be controled.

They are not all exactly "wild" horses. In the late 1800's and early 1900's the ranchers raised horses for the military as cavalry mounts. They turned them out on federal lands and rounded them up again to work and sort. They managed (controlled) the numbers and did it at no cost to the taxpayers.  The system wasn't broke until Congress fixed it in 1972 with the wild horse and burro act.

Congress passed the 1972 Act because of a letter writing campaign. They didn't hear from those ranchers. Today, history repeats itself. Congress passed a law in 2006 defunding the inspections of horse slaughter plants. It was a brilliant letter email phone call campaign by the humane society to ban. Laws are made by those who show up.  Again, your Congressman didn't hear from advocates of horse slaughter. They didn't think it could happen.

Now we are at a crossroads. Can an effective campaign happen to stop all this nonsense. There is just too much division among horse owners. There are a vocal few who would never want to see their horse or another go to a slaughter facility. The HSUS and the media hold them up as saints.

The silent majority who have seen the value of their horses plummet are waiting for someone to ride to their rescue. Ain't going to happen. They need to take the HSUS and its minions on.......... head on.

Wanye Pacelle has threatened any state that tries to open a horse slaughter facility will suffer lawsuits and unrest. HMmmm!!! You may be suprised at how few the vocal few really are.

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Ever grab an old horsehide baseball?...feels like a musket ball TSX.  Don't know why, it just does.  I approve of my dog and the French eating horsemeat. In addition; perverts being killed of their own voilition during a stud's carnal amusement is acceptable. 

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