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camoman
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Homemade scent killer problem

I tried the homemade recipe for a scent killer you can find on the Field and Stream website, the ingredients are distilled water, hydrogen peroxide, baking soda, and scent free shampoo, the baking soda pretty much dissolved in the solution but now im having a problem with it returning to a solid form as the gasses escape from the bottle, i'm afriad it won't work because baking soda is the ingredient that is supposed to kill scent, anybody else try the recipe and have this problem and have a solution, or have any idea as to what I can do to solve this problem? Thanks.

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camoman,

While I haven't tried this scent controller formula, let's look at the ingredients and see what may, or may not, be needed.

The hydrogen peroxide is a very powerful oxidant. This is useful to chemically oxidize organic compounds that may be strange odors. Good stuff and I can see why it is used here, but this stuff will have a very short shelf-life and react with the other compounds in your mixture. It is also rough on your clothes and may actually "bleach" them.

Baking soda, This is a good odor trap. And I would actually think baking soda would be as beneficial without the use of hydrogen peroxide. What I don't understand here is why baking soda, which will only be useful when dry is mixed with hydrogen peroxide (a liquid). Seems like this is incompatible with the normal use of baking soda for odor control. A liquid mixture of baking soda will likely NOT provide any quality odor control. Then again, you have already noticed that the baking soda has reconstituted upon drying.

Scentfree soap. Interesting choice of something to use. Soap is normally made to chemically bond to a loose particle so it can be rinsed away. Hmmmm, unless you apply this overall solution in mass quantities it will likely not "carry away" the scent carrying dirt that you are looking to remove.

In short, I understand the use of baking soda, but hydrogen peroxide is such a powerful oxidant that you should expect to see it degrade/bleach your cammies that you spray it on. It will harm most clothing materials if used often enough. The soap, I absolutely see no need for this item unles you rinse it off.

I'd recommend dusting yourself in dry baking soda and calling it good. At least that's my 2 cents worth of chemistry on it.

What I do is this. 1. Wash clothes in a scentfree detergent. 2. Use a strong odored piece of native vegetation to cover my scent. In the badlands, sage is great. Around bismarck, absinthe would seem to work well as it is everywhere. And if hunting alfalfa fields, I will pull and crumple a bunch of it to rub on my clothes.

And 3. Don';t go through all this hassle and wear a musk scented deoderant. That would just be silly......

“Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.” ~ Mark Twain

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Allen, so you wash your clothes in scentfree detergent, and use a strong odorized piece of vegetation, but dont use any of that expensive spray on scentkiller you have to buy? What do you do for when you are walking to your stand and you sweat the little that you do, you just dont worry about it or what? Also do you think it would work to store all my hunting clothes in a rubbermaid container with some vegetation from the area im hunting, and dirt because it seems to have a distinct scent in my area, and change the vegetation frequently so it doesn't get rotten? Sorry for all the questions, it's just im kinda new to this scent control stuff for bowhunting.

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Why do you want the scent killer to return to solid form aren't you supposed to use it in a spray bottle.

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camoman,

Storing clothes in a container with some native vegetation is a great idea. I usually use an unscented garbage bag, but a rubbermaid container would work wells also.

In trying to get to the stand I take my time so I don't work up a sweat, or carry my stand clothes in a back pack and change once there. It's also one of the reasons why I have rarely enjoyed the early bow season. Stalking mulies is surefire way to break a sweat.

Elmer_Fudd, the baking soda will only really absorb odor if it's dry. Also, applying it in a liquid form will help get good even coverage across your clothes. The drying and recrystalization process will make the baking soda stay on the cloth better but will easily wash away.

I've also seen ads for activated charcoal powder that you sprinkle on your clothing. Seems to me that stuff should be fairly decent as an odor trap. But remember this. Unless you are sweating a lot, about 90% of odor coming from you will be in the from your exhaled breath. So watch what you eat before climbing in your stand. If it smells good to you, it also smells bad to the deer.

Basically, I am of the opinion that I can't hold my breath for a few hours so it doesn't really matter what I do to control odor on my clothes. Making sure to breathe through the nose when a deer is coming from downwind is a good idea for the wind will always be either my worst enemy or best ally.

“Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.” ~ Mark Twain

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As usual I agree with Allens advice. The wind is always a factor in any hunting situation, either good or bad.

I've got a scent lock suit that I wear while bowhunting, but they don't work as good as the advertising would lead you to believe. The whole scent reducing (not eliminating) industry is about money IMO. Look at the shelves in any sporting goods store and they are full of sprays that supposedly eliminate your odor. Nothing could be further from the truth.

The best bet is to set your stand up after considering the prevailing winds in your area. I have a couple areas where I've got two stands, one for a NW wind, another on the other side of the trail for a south wind.

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Allen or anybody, do you think that dusting my cammies with baking soda will cause any sort of reflection problems because it's white or will it help to lighten up my camo a little, and would it be a good idea to dust them with baking soda before putting the clothes in the rubbermaid with the vegetation?

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The best thing I found out is hanging camo outside and take the water hose after it and let them dry. I will hose them down 3 or 4 times a week and let them hand out side. If I wash them it is in just water and let dry natural.

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I'd put a box of baking soda in the rubbermaid container with your clothes. I wouldn't put it directly on the camo though. Just my opinion.

camoman
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So pretty much liking putting it in your refrigerator to absorb scent. But will that absorb the scent from the vegetation or affect it in anyway?

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The homemade scent killer worked great for me. I wash my clothes in no scent detergent then air dryed them and then sprayed them down good, it's cheap enough to be stingy with it. For a little added touch when I was up in the stand, I tried some of that deer dander out of cabelas. If a person doesn't mind smelling like deer it works. A word of caution don't wear that stuff around to much people will stare. My parents couldn't stand the smell but boy did it work.

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