Higher Fishing and Hunting License fees in 2014

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Higher Fishing and Hunting License fees in 2014

Was not sure if this was talked about last week at all but below are the increases from the G&F website.  I support higher fees but I think they got a little carried away.  I hope they do something worth while with the increased revenues.

Effective Jan. 1, 2014, the cost to license a motorboat under 16 feet in length, and all canoes, will increase from $12 to $18; motorboats from 16 feet to less than 20 feet in length from $24 to $36; and motorboats at least 20 feet in length from $33 to $45.

Effective April 1, 2014:

  • resident small game hunting license will increase from $6 to $10
  • nonresident small game hunting license from $85 to $100
  • resident big game hunting license from $20 to $30 (youth big game license remains at $10)
  • nonresident big game hunting license from $200 to $250
  • nonresident big game bowhunting license from $200 to $250
  • resident furbearer license from $7 to $15
  • resident wild turkey license from $8 to $15
  • combination license from $32 to $50
  • nonresident waterfowl hunting license from $85 to $100
  • statewide nonresident waterfowl license from $125 to $150
  • nonresident furbearer and nongame license from $25 to $40
  • resident swan license from $5 to $10
  • nonresident swan license from $25 to $30
  • resident crane license from $5 to $10
  • nonresident crane license from $5 to $30
  • and a nonresident reciprocal trapping license from $250 to $350

In addition, the resident application fee for moose, elk and sheep will increase from $3 to $5, and a habitat restoration stamp required for the general game license increases from $10 to $17, with $8 (instead of $5) of each habitat stamp sold placed in the Game and Fish Department's private land habitat and access improvement fund.

Changes to fishing licenses effective April 1, 2014 include:

  • resident fishing license will increase from $10 to $16
  • resident age 65 and older or permanently disabled fishing license from $3 to $5
  • resident husband and wife fishing license from $14 to $22
  • resident paddlefish tag from $3 to $10
  • nonresident paddlefish tag from $7.50 to $25.50
  • nonresident husband and wife fishing license from $45 to $60
  • nonresident fishing license from $35 to $45
  • nonresident three-day fishing license from $15 to $25
  • and a nonresident 10-day fishing license from $25 to $35
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I am fine with it! Our fee's are reasonable and we have more opportunities then most states. If a little higher fees keep it that way I am in agreement. Really doesn't matter it has already passed.

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 If you can't afford the license fees you had better take up a different hobby.

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 It was overdue as far as I'm concerned - I'm okay with it especially on the big game side I personally thought deer/big game tags should/could have increased more to say $40 or even $50 , but it's a start . 

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 Yeah, I'm okay with it also... still very affordable.

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 Yeah, I'm okay with it also... still very affordable.

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Where did they get carried away? You have to be kidding me! Cheapest licenses in the country.

Wonderful Reagan quote that says it like it is! "It isn't that Liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so much that isn't so."

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 Seems reasonable to me. Still the cheapest part of the sport. 

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Im sure they wouldnt complain if you sent them another $20 donation along with your application this year. Curious why you think they should charge more than they need to provide the services they do? Do you think other areas of the government should do the same?

mhanson6 Said:
 It was overdue as far as I'm concerned - I'm okay with it especially on the big game side I personally thought deer/big game tags should/could have increased more to say $40 or even $50 , but it's a start . 

 

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 I guess I never looked much into this. Did the G&F show a need for funds? While I agree the prices are nominal for what you get out of them, let us not forget that these fees are a tax. Taxation that serves a purpose and provides a service is fine. Raising taxes just because they haven't been raised for awhile is ridiculous. So, does anyone know?

Is it impious to weigh goose music and art in the same scales? I think not, because the true hunter is merely a noncreative artist. Who painted the first picture on a bone in the caves of France? A hunter. Who alone in our modern life so thrills to the sight of living beauty that he will endure hunger and thirst and cold to feed his eye upon it? The hunter. Who wrote the great hunter's poem about the sheer wonder of the wind, the hail, and the snow, the stars, the lightnings, and the clouds, the lion, the deer, and the wild goat, the raven, the hawk, and the eagle, and above all the eulogy to the horse? Job, one of the great dramatic artists of all time. Poets sing and hunters scale the mountains primarily for one and the same reason--the thrill of beauty. Critics write and hunters outwit their game primarily for one and the same reason--to reduce that beauty to possession. The differences are largely matters of degree, consciousness, and that sly arbiter of the classification of human activities, language. If, then, we can live without goose music, we may as well do away with stars, or sunsets, or Iliads. But the point is we would be fools to do away with any of them. 

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It was time for an increase in some fees, but people stating that they wish they would double or triple is stupid at best. The only logical reason someone would WISH for large increases is because they can afford higher fees and are hoping others wouldnt be able to, thereby reducing their competition for tags. To answer your question, the G&F lost a lot of revenue due to the collapse of lope hunting and the deer population statewide. Now they dont have enough funds to keep up the spending they did during the 'boom' years of high large game populations. Instead of cutting programs and services, or maybe enforcement to match their new revenue stream, they have decided to increase the costs to consumers. An increase of 50% for a deer tag is fairly significant, more so for people who meat hunt and kill 3-5 deer a year, than someone who just trophy hunts, or does it for recreation.

 

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I just wish the NR tags would have gone up the same % as resident.  The NR pressure on waterfowl in the fall is ridiculous.  I wish ND could go to a lottery system for NR waterfowl like SD.


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 I think the G&F iis doing a fine job, but that,s not the topic.
Looking at past threads dealing with sporting optics costing thousands, new pickups starting at /40K, boats at 50K on up, expensive electronics never dreamed about 30 - 40 years ago, absolute top quality reloading equipment, and sunglasses costing hundreds odd dollars all the  other wish list stuff bantered about on FBO, I have to quote George H W Bush again and say "Where's the Beef?"    I know what I did for a living and I sure couldn't afford any of that Stuff!?! 
Or is all the things the G&F  doing cheaper in ND than all other states?  Heck, all they need isa buerocrat     and a subscription to "Big Buck" or "Walleye" magazines - you know- where most of us got our biology educations from!
A politically appointed Non biology beurocrat???  We already have one of those.....

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bobkat Said:
 I think the G&F iis doing a fine job, but that,s not the topic.
Looking at past threads dealing with sporting optics costing thousands, new pickups starting at /40K, boats at 50K on up, expensive electronics never dreamed about 30 - 40 years ago, absolute top quality reloading equipment, and sunglasses costing hundreds odd dollars all the  other wish list stuff bantered about on FBO, I have to quote George H W Bush again and say "Where's the Beef?"    I know what I did for a living and I sure couldn't afford any of that Stuff!?! 
Or is all the things the G&F  doing cheaper in ND than all other states?  Heck, all they need isa buerocrat     and a subscription to "Big Buck" or "Walleye" magazines - you know- where most of us got our biology educations from!
A politically appointed Non biology beurocrat???  We already have one of those.....

That is even more then less then helpful. Why are these things never clear?

Is it impious to weigh goose music and art in the same scales? I think not, because the true hunter is merely a noncreative artist. Who painted the first picture on a bone in the caves of France? A hunter. Who alone in our modern life so thrills to the sight of living beauty that he will endure hunger and thirst and cold to feed his eye upon it? The hunter. Who wrote the great hunter's poem about the sheer wonder of the wind, the hail, and the snow, the stars, the lightnings, and the clouds, the lion, the deer, and the wild goat, the raven, the hawk, and the eagle, and above all the eulogy to the horse? Job, one of the great dramatic artists of all time. Poets sing and hunters scale the mountains primarily for one and the same reason--the thrill of beauty. Critics write and hunters outwit their game primarily for one and the same reason--to reduce that beauty to possession. The differences are largely matters of degree, consciousness, and that sly arbiter of the classification of human activities, language. If, then, we can live without goose music, we may as well do away with stars, or sunsets, or Iliads. But the point is we would be fools to do away with any of them. 

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% used across the board would be better.  Non-res fees are still too cheap.  They pay for gas, lodging, guides, land access, food and drink, and use the leftover chump change to buy ND licenses to "share in our wild resources".  Welcome to ND, but pay your fair share, regardless of the desires of ND Tourism!  

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I dont have a problem with the hike at all. I was a little suprised with the nongame hike. Someone must have put a dent in the coyotes?

I dont go around guessing cup sizes either I just know a nice rack when I see one.

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hopeandchangethis Said:
Where did they get carried away? You have to be kidding me! Cheapest licenses in the country.

No they aren't  Hell, its cheaper for somebody under 18 to get a Non-Resident deer tag in Minnesota.  How much are Montana residents paying for a deer or elk tag these days?

 

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The NR tag is what really stood out to me.  We got a 50% increase in our resident deer tags but they only raised the NR deer tags by 25%.  I think they should of matched the % increase in this case.  For those of you that agrue that license cost nothing compaired to all the other expenses my response is No Daaaaah.  With this increased revenue I expect more from the G&F going forward.  They should add more land and better hunting land to the plots program and add more game wardens. On the fishing side of things I think they do a great job.  They could look into other bait fish options for Sak.   Again like I mentioned at the beginning of the thread I support the increases but I will not support the increases with no improvements.

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Meelosh Said:
 I guess I never looked much into this. Did the G&F show a need for funds? While I agree the prices are nominal for what you get out of them, let us not forget that these fees are a tax. Taxation that serves a purpose and provides a service is fine. Raising taxes just because they haven't been raised for awhile is ridiculous. So, does anyone know?

The way they present this at the advisory meetings is the Legislature gives them no funding but requires the Game&Fish to have a certain amount of money on hand at end of fiscal year, not positive on the amount but 15 million sticks in my mind any way with all the people they have hired last few years to run herd on the oil company's out west and the loss of revenue from 40000 less deer tags and no antelope tags for 2 years they were projected to fall below the Legislature mandated number a couple years down the road so license fee increases were required to meet this requirement 

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Why do I care about the under 18 crowd?

Wonderful Reagan quote that says it like it is! "It isn't that Liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so much that isn't so."

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You said we have the cheapest licence fees I offered that up as an example that we clearly do not, and in that instance an under 18 can actually get a non-resident licence for far less than we can as residents in ND. We are far from being the cheapest state. That's why

 

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if it equals lower deer tag numbers (and that is what they are saying) for 2013 -- i am all for it.  Manage on biology and not money.

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bobkat Said:
 I think the G&F iis doing a fine job, but that,s not the topic.
Looking at past threads dealing with sporting optics costing thousands, new pickups starting at /40K, boats at 50K on up, expensive electronics never dreamed about 30 - 40 years ago, absolute top quality reloading equipment, and sunglasses costing hundreds odd dollars all the  other wish list stuff bantered about on FBO, I have to quote George H W Bush again and say "Where's the Beef?"    I know what I did for a living and I sure couldn't afford any of that Stuff!?! 
Or is all the things the G&F  doing cheaper in ND than all other states?  Heck, all they need isa buerocrat     and a subscription to "Big Buck" or "Walleye" magazines - you know- where most of us got our biology educations from!
A politically appointed Non biology beurocrat???  We already have one of those.....

Nice little dig there Bob. Seems you and someone else on here think the only thing needed to maintain good hunting in ND is someone with a few letters behind their name.

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bobkat Said:
 I think the G&F iis doing a fine job, but that,s not the topic.
Looking at past threads dealing with sporting optics costing thousands, new pickups starting at /40K, boats at 50K on up, expensive electronics never dreamed about 30 - 40 years ago, absolute top quality reloading equipment, and sunglasses costing hundreds odd dollars all the  other wish list stuff bantered about on FBO, I have to quote George H W Bush again and say "Where's the Beef?"    I know what I did for a living and I sure couldn't afford any of that Stuff!?! 
Or is all the things the G&F  doing cheaper in ND than all other states?  Heck, all they need isa buerocrat     and a subscription to "Big Buck" or "Walleye" magazines - you know- where most of us got our biology educations from!
A politically appointed Non biology beurocrat???  We already have one of those.....

Nice little dig there Bob. Seems you and someone else on here think the only thing needed to maintain good hunting in ND is someone with a few letters behind their name.

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I'm curious about how many of the 25,000, who did not get any sort of a deer tag last year, will not apply this year because of the license fee increase?

I guess I'm thinking about the people who are on the fence, deciding if they want to be a deer hunter or not. How many?

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They need to get rid of out of state licenses all together either that or increase 60-70%.

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 I have hunted and fished out of state many times, even Canada.  Why is it fair for me to say fish Minnesota, $40 a year I believe, and they can't come here and hunt ducks for $90 a year, oh wait they only get 2 weeks for that, and they need to buy a new license.  It's all about opportunity and you go where you can to get what you want.  

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No problem here.  However, I would like to see/know what our money is going to improve.  To say a 50% increase in fees is inflation would be quite a stretch IMO.

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We also need to consider that most of the resident fees like deer licenses haven't been increased since the late 80's.  Try to buy anything anymore for what you paid in 1987!
    If they were to be raised at the rate of inflation since then they would be much higher.  I think GF has done a great job going that long without raising fees for that many years.  We got nothing to bitch about.