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HELP w/ CANADIAN THISTLE

by , Posted to on 05/14/2011 10:58 PM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/16/2004
Location: ND
I seem to be getting a better crop of Canadian Thistle every year....  I dont like it.  Anyone have recommendations on what I could use to kill them (and hopefully the Dandelions too).  I dont have access to farmers or commercial products, so it would need to be something available at Fleet Farm or other big box stores.

YES, I am that foolish!

Re: HELP w/ CANADIAN THISTLE
by on 05/14/2011 11:22 PM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/12/2003
Location: ND
2-4-D and spot spray them. I've got some and a spray tank if you need it.
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Re: HELP w/ CANADIAN THISTLE
by on 05/14/2011 11:32 PM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/06/2002
Location: ND

Thistiles have a waxy coating on them that makes getting the chemical into the plant hard especially when the plant is small. What happens when they are sprayed to small is it simply burns the plant down but the feeder roots continue to grow.

I will mow around them or use a sponge and rubber gloves and apply the chemical to the back side of the leaf! This helps in getting the chemical into the root system.

If you have a large area you can let them grow up until they are a couple feet tall then cut them off about 4-6" above the ground. The stocks will be hollow at this point and if you keep the hollow stocks full of water it kills the plant and feeder roots as well. Cleaned up a large area of them at our old house where I could not spray by doing this. Hard to let them grow, but it works. We did this in our fields when I farmed, would walk in with a hand scythe and cut them down prior to a rain.

In my lifetime I have seen fence row to fence row farming and the return of CRP and game to the landscape.Now we face again the prosepect of fence row to fence row again! Sportsman are our own worst enemy in that we fail to look forward and focus to much on the now!
Re: HELP w/ CANADIAN THISTLE
by on 05/14/2011 11:33 PM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/27/2004
Location: ND
It may take years to get rid of both.   They are damn persistent and imho are kind of getting immune to the 2-4D.  
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Re: HELP w/ CANADIAN THISTLE
by on 05/14/2011 11:58 PM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/16/2001
Location: ND
make sure you get the extra strength crap that has dicamba in it, a little dicamba is better than a lot of 2 -4d
Re: HELP w/ CANADIAN THISTLE
by on 05/15/2011 00:03 AM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/04/2009
Location: ND
You should try to kill them in the fall with 24d or use some thing with the ai clopyralid like widematch to kill them now
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Re: HELP w/ CANADIAN THISTLE
by on 05/15/2011 00:37 AM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 03/10/2009
Location: nd
Curtail does a better job with canadian thistle than 2-4D imo.
 
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by on 05/15/2011 07:26 AM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/15/2010
Location: nd
is this in a yrad or garden?  you can go to a local farm co op and buy stinger it will kill the thistle

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by on 05/15/2011 08:28 AM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/15/2006
Location: ND
Forefront works really good at killing all of your broadleafs in grass. Spray my pasture with it all the time works great.

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Re: HELP w/ CANADIAN THISTLE
by on 05/15/2011 08:43 AM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 02/09/2011
Location: nd
Milestone does a great job with Thistle. There is a residual for the remaining summer as well. Can be tough on alfalfa if the thistle is mixed with other broadleafs.

luveyes Said:
I seem to be getting a better crop of Canadian Thistle every year....  I dont like it.  Anyone have recommendations on what I could use to kill them (and hopefully the Dandelions too).  I dont have access to farmers or commercial products, so it would need to be something available at Fleet Farm or other big box stores.



Re: HELP w/ CANADIAN THISTLE
by on 05/15/2011 08:45 AM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 12/14/2010
Location: ND
If you can find it Tordon works great.

Re: HELP w/ CANADIAN THISTLE
by on 05/15/2011 09:53 AM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/13/2008
Location: ND
Milestone is really good for thistle. Contact your county weed board; they usually have cost share programs. I work for a weed board in the summers and we use milestone on canadian thistle. It works especially well in the fall after the first frost as plants are sucking all the nutrients into their roots for the winter. If you're not going to graze it within a year there is a new chemical dupont came out with called perspective that will do a good job and not harm your grasses as well.
BadWolf Said:
Milestone does a great job with Thistle. There is a residual for the remaining summer as well. Can be tough on alfalfa if the thistle is mixed with other broadleafs.

luveyes Said:
I seem to be getting a better crop of Canadian Thistle every year....  I dont like it.  Anyone have recommendations on what I could use to kill them (and hopefully the Dandelions too).  I dont have access to farmers or commercial products, so it would need to be something available at Fleet Farm or other big box stores.




Re: HELP w/ CANADIAN THISTLE
by on 05/15/2011 12:16 PM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/27/2004
Location: ND
I hear mixing the spray stronger than recommended works.   I've seen it done without killing the lawn. 
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“You can roll manure in powered sugar but it still ain’t a jelly donut”

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by on 05/15/2011 1:11 PM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 08/16/2004
Location: ND
It in town residential lawn application.  I also dont want to wreck the grass and start that process over...

YES, I am that foolish!

Re: HELP w/ CANADIAN THISTLE
by on 05/15/2011 1:18 PM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/15/2006
Location: ND
Drop_tine81 Said:
If you can find it Tordon works great.


thats restricted use

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Re: HELP w/ CANADIAN THISTLE
by on 05/15/2011 3:13 PM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/06/2002
Location: ND
hlt Said:
Drop_tine81 Said:
If you can find it Tordon works great.


thats restricted use

Only if you get caught!

Seriously Tordon is a soil sterilizer that will prevent even grasses from growing for a long time. We used it on spots where we had leafy spurge as it was the recommended treatment. Even when not mixed to the level that was suggested it left dead spots for a number years. Not a product I would recommend in a lawn setting.

The biggest thing to remember with any chemical is volatility of the product or really at what temp it will vaporize and drift causing plants in other yards to die. So read the label well on whatever you chose. Using an adjutant that helps prevent drift is a good idea and will help in keeping the chemical in place for the plant to absorb.

Some people add a touch of dish soap to the solution to do this.
In my lifetime I have seen fence row to fence row farming and the return of CRP and game to the landscape.Now we face again the prosepect of fence row to fence row again! Sportsman are our own worst enemy in that we fail to look forward and focus to much on the now!
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by on 05/15/2011 8:26 PM | Reply #16 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 05/15/2011
Location: ND
your county agent could find moths that worl good on this
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by on 05/15/2011 10:06 PM | Reply #17 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/14/2009
Location: ND
Is Huskie restricted use??
I don't think it is. 

Huskie works good on all weeds, grass should be fine as long as you don't mix it too strong. 
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by on 05/15/2011 11:48 PM | Reply #18 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 09/11/2002
Location: ND
Turn some cows in there, early in the summer.  they'll eat em all gone.

I say to hell with that pot o' gold.

Re: HELP w/ CANADIAN THISTLE
by on 05/16/2011 07:13 AM | Reply #19 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/19/2006
Location: ND
waste'in time Said:
Curtail does a better job with canadian thistle than 2-4D imo.
+1, this is what i would use on canada thistle and it will not be harmful to your yard however you wont find it at fleet farm


78 Said:
Is Huskie restricted use??
I don't think it is. 

Huskie works good on all weeds, grass should be fine as long as you don't mix it too strong. 
No it is not restricted use

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