Heavy Barreled Deer Rifle?

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Heavy Barreled Deer Rifle?

I have been kicking around getting a heavy barreled rifle with a good scope for deer hunting.  Most of my deer hunting now-a-days is done on my butt behind a pair of binoculars be it muley or whitetail, I also enhoy shooting 400+ yards.  I am not sure what a good gun choice would be but I was looking at rifles in Scheels this weekend and found a Remmington Model 700 SPS, heavy barrel in a 308 calber.  I would like to stay with a little faster caliber (270, 25-06, etc.) but don't know much about heavy barreled rifles.  Would this be a good choice, it sure had a nice feel, the only thing that is holding me back is the caliber?

Also looked at the Scheels Outfitter Icon Trifecta 4-12x44 scope.  Again this scope is designed for a faster caliber (2700+ fps) and I am concerned that with the slower 308 it would be a waste of money?

Any ideas on a good setup?, or the one listed above.  I don't have an unlimited amount to spend but am hoping to find something in the $1,000.00 range.  I have other guns so this one would be used mainly for deer/antelope.

Thanks in advance for the input!

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 I think a 25-06, .270, or 7mm in the heavy barrel would be a great setup. Not sure if they make a 7mm in the heavy barrel? Havent looked into it that much actually, but it (7mm) is fast, flat shooting, and doesnt kick overall like a mule. The scheels scopes have the lifetime warranty, I have more than a few of them, and so far have been very happy with them. Overall for the heavy barrels, if you are in half decent shape, and not lugging it 10+ miles, I think you will be just fine. If the gun feels amazing and you shoot knock out groups with it, IMO, its worth the extra weight.

 

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308 is great caliber for long range shooting, but personally I think if I was setting up a gun for hunting at longer ranges, I would want something that shoots flatter than the 308.

A 25-06 would be a good choice. Definietly will get the job done. Remington made the Sendero in a 25-06 a few years ago and they shoot great, 26" barrel gets you some more speed. Heavy barrel that is fluted. Great gun. They also make these in a few different calibers. Come from the factory with a HS Precision stock. 7mm is availible, 264 is out there, 300 is out there.

If I were to set up a long range deer gun, and thats the ONLY thing I'm going to do with it, I would use a .257 Weatherby or the .264 Win Mag.  Both are great choices, especially in the .264. 6.5 bullets are quite slippery and there are a TON of great hunting rounds.

Trifecta scope is a great piece of optics for the money, clear glass and great warrany, but if you want to really get the most out of the rifle I would put a Zeiss with the Rapid Z reticle in there.

Good luck!

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I shoot to 1000 plus with a heavy barrel 300 WM with 210 gr Berger VLD at 2875 fps.

If you don't want the recoil I would suggest something in the 6.5mm.  I also shoot a 6.5X284 Cooper Phoenix.  I have been looking at the Thompson Center Icon or lower price Venture in 6.5 Creedmore.  I watched a youtube video of one of the reputable outdoor writers take an elk at 600 yards plus.  The ballistic coefficient of the 140 gr Berger VLD doesn't look impressive at the muzzle, but it's nearly as flat as the 25-06 at 400 yards and beyond 500 it starts walking on the standard 30 calibers.

After three knee surgeries I got into the long range hunting about ten or twelve years ago.  It's entertaining watching bucks sneak behind guys on the other side of the river at 1200 yards.  You will see things you never do while walking and hunting.  Spend a couple of years at it and it will make you a better hunter while walking also.  Deer behavior is entertaining to most of us and you will see a lot more of it while you sit.

Oh, here is a mulie I shot three years ago.  I invested 14 hour sitting on my behind for this guy.  We seen him at sunrise opening day, but season didn't open until noon.  I ducked out of site for ten minutes to get a bite to eat and when I looked back he had left his bed and he was nowhere to be seen that day.

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25-06 AI.

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I just checked gunbroker.com and it has Remington Senderos in 25-06, 270, 7mm and 300 win and ultra mag plus a few others.  Most are over $1000 but a few are under.  I know nothing about the Scheels scope you mention but something with good target knobs and a reticle that will help with hold over and/or for wind is recommended,  I have Leupold 6.5-20X-50 M1 dials and the TMR in my long range rigs, pricey but worth it.  Don't forget the most important of all, lots of practice.  If I haven't shot for 2 or 3 weeks hitting my 880 or 1000 yard plates becomes more of a SWAG shot (scientific wild ass guess)

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Hornaday's .284 162gn A-max, .243 105 A-max, and .244 75gn A-max all rate having a rifle to digest them as do the simlarly weighted Berger VLD's.  The 105 and 162 behave give or take like a Nosler Ballistic tip on game.

A .5ish B.C. 105-110gn .257 A-Max would excite me too.

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Do you reload? Do you like to shoot a lot or is this strictly for hunting? What is your definition of long distance? The hotter the caliber you get, the sooner your going to wear out your barrel. I have a Tikka t3 varmint that shoots 65gr Sierra's very well, out to 600 yards. I havent tried past that distance yet. If you are thinking about spending around 1k on the rifle and you reload, I would consider the Savage Model: 12 Long Range Precision in 260 Rem. With a savage you can also swap barrels yourself, so one gun can be used to shoot several different calibers.

 

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I have used a Remington SPS Tactical in .308 the last three years.  I am reloading 130gr TTSX and they are going about 2900 fps out of the 20" barrel. 

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Lycanthrope Said:
Do you reload? Do you like to shoot a lot or is this strictly for hunting? What is your definition of long distance? The hotter the caliber you get, the sooner your going to wear out your barrel. I have a Tikka t3 varmint that shoots 65gr Sierra's very well, out to 600 yards. I havent tried past that distance yet. If you are thinking about spending around 1k on the rifle and you reload, I would consider the Savage Model: 12 Long Range Precision in 260 Rem. With a savage you can also swap barrels yourself, so one gun can be used to shoot several different calibers.

I just turned 50, grew up shooting at a very young age, I do reload (my dad always relaoded - first memory of that was with a hand held lee hand loader) and my main big game rifle is the Ruger M77 in a .270 that I bought in 1974, and honestly that gun is kind of like a third arm when it comes to shooting  My farthest kill in 484 yards at a whitetail buck shooting prone with that rifle which by the way is mounted with a old Weaver K4 wide angle scope.

I don't shoot as much as I use to but do still have a bench setup in the yard with ranges to 400 yards.  Probably a box a month right now, but that I sure would go up if I was to get a new one.  I have a number of guns (mainly rugers) ranging from the 22 rimfire, 22 hornet, to the 270.  I have number of other odd calibers of other makes as well, but would like a set up that could reach out there.  My version of long range for big game would 600-700 yards depending on all the variables at the time.

I never did think of the .260 Rem.,? 

I alway check my guns zero and bullet drop from a bench to get first hand data, than I also run it through a generic ballistics program to see how accurate it is.  If accurate than I plug in distances farther out.

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What type of bullet drop are you seeing between the 200 yards targets and the 500 yardage?  That is my biggest fear with the .308, the amount of compensation for bullet drop out to farther ranges.   I really did like the feel of the Remington rifle though and the price was more than reasonable.

Thanks for the input! 

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I purchased a new sendero last year in a 7mm. The new Remington trigger pretty damn nice! I topped it with a Zeiss 6-20x50 with turrets. The scope tracks perfectly! I am shooting nosler accubond 140's. The combo work absolutely perfect. I am shooting about a 1/2" group at 100, about a 1-1/2 at 200, and around 2-21/2" at 300. I shot a mule deer in Wy last fall at 380 and dropped him stone dead in his tracks. My buddy just bought the exact same setup and is shooting 168 Berger vld's and his is shooting amazing as well! I don't believe there is a better rifle out of the box. Of course all this is after doing some work with the loads.

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