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has anybody seen the show lately? the long range tip guy has been doing demonstrations with an interesting rifle lately.

it is a bolt gun. it has a pistol grip and looks looks like an AR receiver, has a skeleton like butt stock, it has a box magazine, fore end like an AR and he has a suppressor on it.
 
does anybody know what it is?

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http://www.outdoorchannel.com/shows/bestofthewest.aspx

if you watch the video you can see the rifle briefly.

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its Jiffy's  - -he borrowed to him

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did anyone see that Bob Mundson er whatever, shoot plinkers at 600 yards with a 44 mag S&W iron sights


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If your are talking about david tubb i think it would be one of his tube guns

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swanson Said:
did anyone see that Bob Mundson er whatever, shoot plinkers at 600 yards with a 44 mag S&W iron sights

Bob London maybe? 

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That whole premise of pulling off 1,000 yard shots on game (as seen on Best of the West) bothers me.  I haven't watched it a lot, but can't recall seeing any missed shots, wounded game - - oftentimes it's a spine shot animal dropping in its tracks.  I wonder what their "edited out" collection looks like?

I'm all for shooting at any distance you care to on a target range or in a prairie dog town.  In fact, that's where I've learned that judging wind "between here & there" to get THE FIRST shot on target is NOT an exact science (gravity more or less is - - taking incline/decline out of the equation). 

It's troubling to me to see this promoted as "You too can do this if you just buy our scope...and other equipment."  

Yes, the shots they show are phenomonal and they have the right to promote their product, but it puts a burr under my saddle to see them promoting this as a viable way to hunt big game.  They, no doubt, cripple game - - and I'm sure that the inexperienced customers of theirs that buy into this method will too. 

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swanson Said:
did anyone see that Bob Mundson er whatever, shoot plinkers at 600 yards with a 44 mag S&W iron sights

Bob London maybe? 

yup thats the crazy guy.  That was insane shot. That impossible shots show is pretty cool


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moosehunter09 Said:
has anybody seen the show lately? the long range tip guy has been doing demonstrations with an interesting rifle lately.

it is a bolt gun. it has a pistol grip and looks looks like an AR receiver, has a skeleton like butt stock, it has a box magazine, fore end like an AR and he has a suppressor on it.
 
does anybody know what it is?

Armalite AR 30?  Haven't seen the show, so just guessing?
http://www.armalite.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=30M338&ReturnUrl=Categories.aspx?Category=3a467b6f-2ac9-4e26-82f0-7914a7ffbb4e

Does anyone have any experience with these as to how they shoot?

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 Actually I believe most of their shots are high shoulder shots. They like to do the bang flop. Kind of makes it look better onscreen than an animal running 100 yds after being shot at 800 yds. 

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webs Said:
 Actually I believe most of their shots are high shoulder shots. They like to do the bang flop. Kind of makes it look better onscreen than an animal running 100 yds after being shot at 800 yds. 

Could be....  My point being, if the wind is blowing 10-15 mph at the site of the shot, 20 down the canyon between you and switches directions 30 -40 degress on the next slope and is blowing at 5 to 10 mph.  At those kinds of ranges, it doesn't take a whole lot of error to push that bullet from a vital shot to a gut shot.  How do you put THAT much faith into your first shot on a big game animal? 

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practice shooting alot

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I think the biggest part of shooting enough to know you can make that shot is also knowing when you can't.

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thats where a shorthair comes in - -illegal or not --- you get your animal.

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Horsager Said:
I think the biggest part of shooting enough to know you can make that shot is also knowing when you can't.

+1   That's the best advice I've heard in a long time.

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Horsager Said:
I think the biggest part of shooting enough to know you can make that shot is also knowing when you can't.

 words to live by

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Always remember, if you can see it, you can shoot it.

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 I have to admit with the wind in NoDak there are a lot more days where you can't ethically shoot at big game a long distance than when you can. It is incredible what even a 20 mph wind does to a bullet. 

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In the field it's pretty tough to know the difference between 15 and 20 or 20 and 25.  If I don't "know" the wind, I'm probably not shooting past 300yds or so.

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Most who are serious about longrange shooting have a weather station.  Kestrel or Skymate are around $100-200.  You have software on your phone or a pocket PC ($200).  A good rangefinder, one with a small beam divergence so you actually are getting the range of the animal.

 "The more you understand about shooting and reloading, the more you understand what can go wrong".    

Keep in mind Best of the West and LongRange Pursuit are trying to sell their products.  I don't know of anyone who would sit on a vantage point to take a longrange shot when they could stalk closer and make an easier shot.

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Most use a weather station(Kestral or Skymate).  A good rangefinder, one with a small beam divergence so you actually get the animal not the surrounding rocks or bushes.  The more you understand about shooting and reloading, the more you understand what can go wrong.  Keep in mind Best of the West and LongRange Pursuit are trying to sell their products.  I don't know anyone who will setup on a vantage point and make a longrange shot when they can stalk closer and make and easier one.  If I did I wouldn't for long.

Most longrange shooters put alot of time and money into their hobby.  We use to joke about mine and my buddies equipment cost more than the vehicles we used to go hunting in. 

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Sorry for the double post this 'puter is doing funky things again.

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