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Ford lovers --- dont jack me around

be honest ---- I see lots of old inventory sitting on the lot.   Makes me want to start looking --- but I also see this article in consumer reports:

  • Ford's problems don't end with the perennial MyTouch issues. Several models powered by the turbocharged V-6 EcoBoost engine -- Ford's answer to retaining power while boosting gas mileage -- got poor ratings. Of 34 Ford and Lincoln models in the survey, only the F-150 pickup with the 3.7-liter V-6 engine was rated above average. Nearly two-thirds of those models ranked much worse than average.
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Of course Consumers Report states Toyota at the top.   I take that all with a somewhat a grain of salt --- my wife has a Honda and we have had no problems -- however the maintenance schedule is much more expensive then my truck.  

I have owned a ford and the rest of my trucks have been chevy.   I have been vocal on my last chevy.   The dealer worked through all the issues and they all have been resovled with no money out of pocket.  

I hear all the ford BS on here --- believe me if buy one --- and its reliability is like what consumers shows (pickup a copy of the magazine ---- it lists dodge and chevy / gm over ford for reliability.   I have a hard time believing over dodge -- but who knows plus the fact that so many people own them --- are they all ford lovers like the fboers that they wont say a bad word about them???? 

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So give me the down and dirty on how many times you had to take your truck in to have it repaired.   Warranty or no warranty repair.   I would like an honest opinion --- thanks in advance.   short

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I sort of put the EcoBoost in the same catagory as computor software updates latest I-phone etc.   Let someone else be the proving grounds (work the bugs out).  I may jump in after a couple of years.

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In fact, we’ve seen some Japanese brands tumble, with Subaru, Scion, and Nissan all losing several positions over last-year’s rankings. Meanwhile, Audi, having shown steady improvement in vehicle reliability during recent years, moved up four places this year to finish fourth overall—the top European carmaker in the survey. Three Audis—the A6 2.0T sedan, Q7 SUV, and Allroad wagon—have "much better than average" reliability. Volvo jumped 13 places to seventh.

Domestic brands are led by General Motors, with GMC, Buick, and Chevrolet ranking above the brands from Chrysler Corp. and Ford Motor Company. GMC is the lone domestic brand in the top 10, claiming the 9th spot. Buick is close by in 12th spot. All Buicks except the V6 LaCrosse were average or better. The only dark spots for Chevrolet are the Camaro and Cruze, both of which earned below-average reliability scores.

Despite climbing five spots to 18th, Chrysler models are still below par overall. Ram is next in line at 19th, with Jeep at 23rd and Dodge at 24th. (Because the Fiat line was limited to the 500 when the survey was conducted, we do not have sufficient models to have included that brand in the rankings. We require at least two models for this ranking.) Some of the automaker’s most reliable models, such as the Jeep Compass and Jeep Patriot SUVs, didn’t score well in our testing rendering them ineligible for a recommendation. And the better-performing Jeep Grand Cherokee V6 has fallen well below average in reliability.

Ford and Lincoln crowd the bottom, with only Mini scoring worse.

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 My 2011 GMC just clicked over 50,000 miles and it is the first pickup I have had absolutely nothing wrong with.  Not even a little thing.  No warranty work, nothing.  I am knocking on wood as we speak.  I normally trade every 2 years, but this one I am reluctant to trade.  I got the 6.2 with the max tow package(extra leaf), backup mirror, color match topper. 

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All by:  Benjamin Franklin.

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I have had mine since January (2013 f150 limited) I don't use it as a hunting veichle and haven't towed a whole lot with it. I just turned over 5000 miles with it. All and all even tho I don't drive it often,when I do I couldn't be happier. Is the overwhelming amount of power they claim and fuel mileage what they say? I certainly don't think so. But all in all it's by far the best truck I have had so far. From the amount of space to the way it hugs the road. I'm not very biased considering my main hunting towing rig is a GMC. Couldn't tell you about issues because I haven't had any yet. But all in all when I went to test drive Toyota GM and Ford, ford was just the one I liked most. Every truck has issues every truck has positives. I couldn't tell you about better incentives or maintenance cost or how the mileage stacks up. Just know I'm pleased with what I got...

 

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Go get a "RAPTOR" problem solved :)

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megamuley30 Said:
Go get a "RAPTOR" problem solved :)

Then you can jump it like this:


"Diligence is the mother of good luck."

"The constitution only gives people the right to pursue hapiness.  You have to catch it yourself."

"Well done is better than well said."

"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

All by:  Benjamin Franklin.

"The solution to any problem - work, love, money, whatever - is to go fishing, and the bigger the problem, the longer the trip should be."

Author: John Gierach

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5800 miles on the wife's F150 with the ecoboost, no problems yet.  We aren't getting anywhere near the mileage advertised.  About 18 on the highway, 14-15 on average.

One thing I will say about it though is that it's a real pleasure to drive.  Very quiet, comfortable and smooth on road.

Another thing I will add, and this just may be me showing my age, is that I don't appreciate the overly fancy radio, climate control, etc, etc.  I like buttons, knobs and sliders.  You can get quite distracted trying to turn the frigging heater on.

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Almost 10k on my 2013 eco.  So far so good.  The power and ride are amazing.  Mileage is good but not great.  Love the interior.  I'd buy another.


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My current avg 14.7. Not pulling anything

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im with Ahab. '11 silverado with the 6.2 is a beast. no problems to date (knock, knock, knock).
avg mpg is 15.3
interstate it gets around 16.
i see 18-20 going 65 on the 2 lane nd roads.
21 in MN going 55

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Its a 6.1 isnt it I had that motor too. No way did it make that type of mileage. 1 or 2 miles less to gallon. Pulling it did better

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2012 F150 Ecoboost.  45,000 miles.  Average mileage since day 1 on all the miles is 16.9.  Drive 70mph hwy and 80 on the Interstate.  Plenty of gravel roads and short trips in there.  Have had zero mechanical problems.

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Just traded in my chevy crap-alanche for a used  '12Tundra "rock warrior" .  so far so good. mileage is around the same.

The chevy had lots of issues and was only at 80,000 miles. new block, brakes, door locks, ect.

Would have loved to get a "raptor" but $50,000 is alot for a gas pick-up.

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 My brother is an engineer, and a cheapskate, and a Toyota fan, and a researcher.  So he test drove every full size pick up out there.  He said hands down, the F150 is the best out there and actually bought a new one.  That tells me a lot.

I have owned 5 ford pick ups , but none with ecoboost ,  I have enjoyed every one of mine and reliable for me.

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 Mileage is similar for me.  Best I got without a big tailwind was from park rapids to Fargo.  Babied it at 59 mph and she got 22.5.  All around average is between 15 and 16.  I am not a hard accelerator though.  Many mileage variables are in ones right foot.  Best mileage is with premium fuel as well.  Any ethanol blended fuels and you can take a minimum of 1 MPG off.

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im with Ahab. '11 silverado with the 6.2 is a beast. no problems to date (knock, knock, knock).
avg mpg is 15.3
interstate it gets around 16.
i see 18-20 going 65 on the 2 lane nd roads.
21 in MN going 55

"Diligence is the mother of good luck."

"The constitution only gives people the right to pursue hapiness.  You have to catch it yourself."

"Well done is better than well said."

"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

All by:  Benjamin Franklin.

"The solution to any problem - work, love, money, whatever - is to go fishing, and the bigger the problem, the longer the trip should be."

Author: John Gierach

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SHORTHAIRSRUS Said:
Its a 6.1 isnt it I had that motor too. No way did it make that type of mileage. 1 or 2 miles less to gallon. Pulling it did better

If your talking GM it is 6.2.  They still make the 6.0 also i believe but no way near the mileage of 6.2.  I have an 11 also with 6.2 and have made 22 at 60 and average 18-20 at under 70.  We drive slow and very few rabbit starts unless some young kid next 2 us at stoplight.  Man do they look at u when u blow their doors off.
We only have 18,000 on it now.

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Driving in town does the turbo kick in if u take it easy? They really have alot of boost pu left vs the v8. They r definetly all in.

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11' f150 Ecoboost with 48,xxx miles. Trucks used for everything and used relatively hard. So far been to the shop twice. Once for a noisy pinion bearing early in its life. Once a couple weeks ago for a misfire/stumble when at WOT higher in the speed range. Did this passing two semi's on a two lane road, the second time it tripped the check engine light. Made an appointment and drove it as it ran fine otherwise. A week later when I took it in the check engine light had shut off and all was back to normal. Since I had an appointment I took it in anyway and they completed a few updates and a software change (which I told them not to do). I have noticed no change in drivability (which was fine before) since it returned however my fuel mileage is down a solid 2 mpg since the retune that I told them not to do! Still miffed about that. We have 4 Ecoboost powered F150s ranging in age and mileage with mine having the most miles. So far, mine is the only one that's been in for anything. FYI mine used to get the best mileage of the 4 also and I could regularly get 15-17 mpg around town and 18-22 mpg on the highway, 13 mpg pulling the boat.

If we want to talk about issues I can start a decent book about my wife's Buick Enclave. Without making a long winded post, it'll be the last enclave we own and frankly we both love the ride, room, and looks but none does any good when your replacing 2k worth of parts at 3 years old and 60k miles and no longer under warranty. Don't get me started on the Rims that have sheets and strings of chrome coming off like it was rattle canned on from the factory and also is not warrantable! F'n GM!  I'll buy an explorer or a Lincoln next time!

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 Alright.  Im calling BS on your guys' mileage numbers.  Is that what the onboard computer is telling you?  You should actually check your mileage the old fashion way.  That means you might have to use a calculator.  Can you guys handle that?  I would bet that it will be much lower...

 

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After owning a Chevy 5.7L and a Chevy 5.3L , I was looking at the Eco boost in the Ford as well. I was told flat out by two different salesman at two different dealerships that if you are buying the EcoBoost for the mileage…DON’T!  the slight if any difference in mileage generally does not make up for the extra price. Ford’s new 5.0L so far, is a much needed improvement over the poke a hole in your gas tank 5.4L, the new  5L is more fuel efficient and has more torque than the old 5.4L and so far from what I hear is hands down better. Now don’t get me wrong the EcoBoost is a lot more fun and does very well pulling boats, fifth wheels and such but if you’re not pulling something on a consistent basis there really is no need to jump up to the Ecoboost over the new 5L


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TommyBoy Said:
 Alright.  Im calling BS on your guys' mileage numbers.  Is that what the onboard computer is telling you?  You should actually check your mileage the old fashion way.  That means you might have to use a calculator.  Can you guys handle that?  I would bet that it will be much lower...

Calculators are for those who can't do simple math, either in their head or on a sheet of scratch paper.  Not like this is a partial differential equation.  

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 I'm as tough on trucks as anyone, 100k on my 2010 and never a problem . People that say ford or Chevy or dodge etc are the best irritate the heck out of me . It's a badge on a hunk of metal.

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Bratwurst Said:
 I'm as tough on trucks as anyone, 100k on my 2010 and never a problem . People that say ford or Chevy or dodge etc are the best irritate the heck out of me . It's a badge on a hunk of metal.

        What he says.  Kind of like Blondes, Brunetts or Redheads
some good, some not so good.

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TommyBoy Said:
 Alright.  Im calling BS on your guys' mileage numbers.  Is that what the onboard computer is telling you?  You should actually check your mileage the old fashion way.  That means you might have to use a calculator.  Can you guys handle that?  I would bet that it will be much lower...

Not mine.  Actual gas purchased and odometer miles.

BTW, the onboard computer is maybe 0.1 mpg different for the miles driven in 2013.  I don't have that comparison for 2012.

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They have tons of ecos. Vs 5.o. leftover. Brat is yours a eco?

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TommyBoy Said:
 Alright.  Im calling BS on your guys' mileage numbers.  Is that what the onboard computer is telling you?  You should actually check your mileage the old fashion way.  That means you might have to use a calculator.  Can you guys handle that?  I would bet that it will be much lower...

I've checked the computer vs hand calculated on my last 3 pickups and it has always been within 1 or 2 tenths of a gallon.  The next check is checking calibration of your speedometer.  Vehicles that read fast get better mileage and vise versa(not in reality, on paper).  Check using a gps.  If you are off either way you can simply use an equation to figure real mileage. 

"Diligence is the mother of good luck."

"The constitution only gives people the right to pursue hapiness.  You have to catch it yourself."

"Well done is better than well said."

"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

All by:  Benjamin Franklin.

"The solution to any problem - work, love, money, whatever - is to go fishing, and the bigger the problem, the longer the trip should be."

Author: John Gierach

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If I wanted to get a 12-13 mpg average I probably could.  Would just have to mash a lot of throttle.  Pulling a 621 ranger at 70 mph I was pulling around 11-12.5 mpg  highway depending on wind.  55ish in MN it was 13-14.  Just to throw out a few more figures to be called a liar about.  haha

"Diligence is the mother of good luck."

"The constitution only gives people the right to pursue hapiness.  You have to catch it yourself."

"Well done is better than well said."

"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

All by:  Benjamin Franklin.

"The solution to any problem - work, love, money, whatever - is to go fishing, and the bigger the problem, the longer the trip should be."

Author: John Gierach

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Farnorth Said:
2012 F150 Ecoboost.  45,000 miles.  Average mileage since day 1 on all the miles is 16.9.  Drive 70mph hwy and 80 on the Interstate.  Plenty of gravel roads and short trips in there.  Have had zero mechanical problems.

Are you using premium fuel or just regular?


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