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Finishing Out My Attached Garage...Ideas?

by , Posted to on 10/04/2011 08:53 AM | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/14/2003
Location: ND
Been starting the research process on finishing out my garage.  It is an older house and want to get my storage done in the garage.  Before I do that, I need to finish out the walls and ceiling nice.  Right now have 1/2 OSB up throughout by previous owner (I helped hang it actually).

Anyway, OSB is the devil when it comes to collecting dust so I have no interest in painting it.  Plus, painting is no fun for upkeep anyway even is you do buy a high grade paint that can be washed heavily.

So, been looking at other options.  Nine foot ceiling so was looking at maybe hanging a 1/8 or 1/4 wall paneling material up that can handle pressure washing and a beating and putting a foot kickboard at the floor.  My concern is mounting that material.  Nailing or screwing will look bad.  Industrial type adhesives would work but am concern about that failing in the future (time and temperature changes are mean on things).

Plus, I think having a system in place to allow easy access to the guts (the frame) for additional wiring or plumbing would be nice.

Was thinking that would maybe use dura-panel or equivalent.  Easy maintenance, will handle getting beat on and puts a pretty decent "finished" look to the garage.  Plus, if needed to get back behind walls wouldn't be a horrible adventure.  Also like the composite gradeboard idea for down at the floor but imagine the darn composite is spendy!  Haven't looked into durapanel costs either though...gonna do that later.  Just wanted some creative juices flowing.

Thoughts on that you garage gurus?  My garage is small being only a 24 x 22 (I think...can't remember exact measurements I made.  Might be a tad bigger than that.  Have to remeasure in the coming days.  Want to get this done before the snow flies and hunting seasons really kick in.  My organization stinks right now and looks like a redneck garage!




 
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Re: Finishing Out My Attached Garage...Ideas?
by on 10/04/2011 09:05 AM | Reply #1 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 09/01/2010
Location: nd
i dont know if this would work for you or how much it would cost but i was at a house party a while back and it looked like they had put tin roofing on all the walls in there garage looked pretty nice and would be easy to wash off.
Re: Finishing Out My Attached Garage...Ideas?
by on 10/04/2011 09:41 AM | Reply #2 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/14/2003
Location: ND
Sounds like dura-panel.  If normal steel siding it would be expensive.  Dura-panel is a more affordable option.  They also have aqustic type dura-panel that is suppose to help with noise but being only 9 foot walls I don't think I will have too much noice.  At least not enough to warrant spending extra money.




 
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Re: Finishing Out My Attached Garage...Ideas?
by on 10/04/2011 10:18 AM | Reply #3 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 01/09/2002
Location: ND
Pretty sure I would never want to pressure wash a garage wall.  Last thing you need is to force moisture in behind the panels (regardless of what you chose) and let mold grow.  Not to mention the electrical outlets!

So you don't think painted OSB is the look you want and would like to get something else to overlay it?  Seems like a lot of extra expense to me. 

I've been hemming and hawwing between OSB and sheetrock to finish my garage.  i like the ability of OSB to hold fasteners, don't really like the look.  Also much prefer the fire retardance of sheet rock over OSB.  So I still haven't made up my mind.  Having to depend on rural fire dept speed for a garage fire has me leaning toward sheetrock.

Uggh!  More taping and texturing....
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Re: Finishing Out My Attached Garage...Ideas?
by on 10/04/2011 10:30 AM | Reply #4 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/14/2003
Location: ND
Tim, I can tell you what I've had so far and how well it's worked. At our old place the inside of the garage was unfinshed sheet rock with no tape, mud or texture. Well, over time it yellowed, looked dingy and wasn't partiularly appealing. It was something I would have everntually atleast painted had we stayed there.
 
The shop had white ribbed steel on the ceiling and walls. I like this as it made shop look great from an appearance standpoint and I figured it would be easy to pressure wash. Well, I learned that years of tractor & vehicle exhast and general shop use put a grime on the tin that couldn't hardly be washed off. I tryed the pressure washer and it only knocked of the chunks and spider webs, soap and water helped but smeared the grime around and actually made it look worse as did a solavent cleaner, WD-40, and gasoline. To this day I really don't know if anything would have cleaned it up. I did really like the way it finished off the shop. The downside came to hanging stuff on the walls be it cabinets or whatever, the ribs made things difficult and I was constantly fighting it.
 
I don't have a shop built at the new place yet but the 36x34 attached garage is completely finished with lots of lights, lots of power (Five 220 outlets), cabinets, tool hangers and so on. The walls are simply finished sheetrock that has been taped, mudded,  textured, and painted white. So far I have found it looks nice, it's easy to hang stuff up, I can wipe off most things with a wet cloth and what I cann't can be touched up in a few minutes with a quick coat of paint which I have had to do already. The downside is it isn't water/pressure washer friendly and if you want to keep it looking nice you'll be doing some painting atleast once a year. The other downside is the mud and tape lines will crack if it isn't temp controled.

The only other Idea that I've seen and may try someday is to sheetrock and finsh the walls and ceiling as you normaly would and then take a plastic/melamine type of sheeting and finish the bottom 4 feet with that.  the idea being something that you can pressure wash and clean. Melamine probably isn't the exact product I'm thinking of but the proper name escapes me at the moment.
Re: Finishing Out My Attached Garage...Ideas?
by on 10/04/2011 10:40 AM | Reply #5 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 11/13/2002
Location: ND

Hang that plastic paneling like you see in wash bays or bathrooms. It comes in white so there's no paint involved.

Re: Finishing Out My Attached Garage...Ideas?
by on 10/04/2011 10:50 AM | Reply #6 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/14/2003
Location: ND

Sheetrock is common hence why I think it is safe to point out the drawbacks.

1.  A real pain in the butt to maintain.  Even with "wash friendly" paint.

2.  A real pain in the butt because it is fragile.  Yet to see a garage that doesn't have a hole at the base or somewhere else.

3.  I am not good enough to tape and texture.  A guy thinks he is and then five years down the road here comes the ugliness.

4.  A pain to deal with putting in storage and other things that need wall fastening.  Not to mention a change in design will require patch work or the old fashion "ah the hole doesn't look too bad I'll just let it be..."

5.  If you need to get behind to fix something or add in plumbing or whatever...good luck.  A redo is in the make for the whole garage unless not minding discolored paint or inconsistent texturing.

6.  A double vote for a pain in the butt to maintain.

As for the pressure wash comment I wouldn't be blasting with full power.  And my goodness I hope paneling keeps moisture out because there sure area  lot of buildings out there in the real world that got over 20 inches of rain dumped on them and at times in downpours and 60 plus mph winds! 

I wouldn't fear a light pressure or hose washing followed by a broom or other cleaning tool on paneling.  Not one bit.  But I get your point.  I should have worded differently.

And no, I do not like the look of OSB at all.  You throw paint over it and you have nothing but a dust trap.  It will be disgusting to look at and deal with.  I'd feel dirty every time I cut up a deer or cleaned a walleye with the amount of dust that would be sitting in the OSBnookss and crannies.  Without it painted one doesn't even realize how dirty it is but if you throw white paint up you'll see dust galore. 

A suggestion was to lightly mud and sand over the OSB but that sounds like a disaster down the road for breakdown.

Dura-panel is 74 bucks per 100 square feet.  I'll let you know what my quote is on dura-panel.  I just did a real rough estimate and figure a 1,000 bill but that doesn't include the trim, screws and other goodies.  So I put in a quote request to see what the heck it all entails.  I know a 1,000 bucks is a bit of money but by the time you add up sheetrock, paint, tape and texture I guess I don't know how terrible the cost difference is?  Not to mention then you have the rest of your life wondering why you didn't do amaintenancee free approach versus something that needs tender loving care.

Again, I am not a tape and texture guy.  That requires extensiveexperiencee and skill.  It is the last thing you do before painting so it is one of the most important.  If not done well, it will be a eye sore for the rest of the garages life.  To get someone to come in mud and texture I'm sure is no less than 600 bucks now a days.  Probably closer to a $1,000 or more.

I can utilize my whole life policy and pay back myself interest.  Hell, I'll be making money by finishing my garage! 




 
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Re: Finishing Out My Attached Garage...Ideas?
by on 10/04/2011 11:06 AM | Reply #7 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 07/14/2003
Location: ND
Yar,

Was your sheet metal painted or not painted?  I think that makes a big difference with how it cleans.

I get your point but I'm not to concerned with the exhaust.  It is a heated garage and vehicles will not need to be ran inside.  Jumping in a 40 degree vehicle takes very little time to warm up in the winter.

Outside of that, being an attached garage I will not run anything inside other than tuning up an ice auger, the mower or whatever.  So I'm not fearing that.  The biggest issue will be splashing of water from floor, who knows what getting splattered on the walls and dust.  Dust is by far the number one enemy followed fairly closely by rain and snow getting splattered around.

Hanging stuff will be easy for me because I will NOT have anything other than cabinets and tote storage.  Utilizing the neat track systems they have today will be very easy to hang cabinets.  Or simply paint up some boards or even stain and varnish that act as supports or hang rails.  My main storage will be utilizing notched shelving trips with heavy duty brackets which will be holding up meshed shelving.  That way dust can filter through the shelving.  All my stuff will be stored in totes with labeling so no lazy man placing of whatever.  Everything is free from dust, organized and not an eye sore.  Or so that's the plan.

As upland said there is the other products out there that are similar to bathroom paneling.  It is textured or light textured.  It is kind of like a heavy duty vinyl but that goes back to my worry of temp control, humidity control and heaving of the OSB.  That paneling has the potential to detach.  Plus, the seams will have to be dealt with.  I already have decided I will not use the seam snaps.  If I went with this approach I would simply separate the two panels and then fill in with a water based caulking.  Those seam snaps are the first thing to yellow and go to heck.

But I have looked into that option.  Tis not overlooked yet but I am really leaning toward the dura-panel.  I am too broke to ever own a nice big place with a detached extra garage.  At least in Minot for the next twenty years so I might as well make my little detach feel like the shop I dream of........
 




 
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Re: Finishing Out My Attached Garage...Ideas?
by on 10/04/2011 11:54 AM | Reply #8 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 10/21/2004
Location: ND

I have been researching the same stuff.
I have decided to go with regular barn tin that we put on five different buildings out at the farm.  Granted its ribbed but i will just cut in a 2X6 where i want to mount cabinets because I shouldn't need washing up there.
There are products that keep moisture out with it and the colors are durable enough to wash.

A previous garage had the bottom 4' marlite and the top 5' was finished sheetrock with no texture, just smooth with no bumps to collect dust. That probably looked nicer but was a pain to maintain.

good thread.

Re: Finishing Out My Attached Garage...Ideas?
by on 10/04/2011 12:05 PM | Reply #9 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

Joined: 04/08/2003
Location: ND
The shop we use runs alot of small motors, large diesel forklifts, and a fair amount of welding.  Every 3-4 years we spray on a degreaser, hit it with a brush and powerwash it off.  After it is dry, we use some  cleaner for alum wheels, from NAPA, by the 5 gallon bucket.   Use a hand pump sprayer, spray it on and hose it off.  Amazing how it looks.   Need ventilation, as it will take your breath away.
Re: Finishing Out My Attached Garage...Ideas?
by on 10/04/2011 12:08 PM | Reply #10 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
huntrut Said:

I have been researching the same stuff.
I have decided to go with regular barn tin that we put on five different buildings out at the farm.  Granted its ribbed but i will just cut in a 2X6 where i want to mount cabinets because I shouldn't need washing up there.
There are products that keep moisture out with it and the colors are durable enough to wash.

A previous garage had the bottom 4' marlite and the top 5' was finished sheetrock with no texture, just smooth with no bumps to collect dust. That probably looked nicer but was a pain to maintain.

good thread.

That was a similar idea but over time sheetrock just starts to look crappy.  I don't know, decisions to be made.




 
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Re: Finishing Out My Attached Garage...Ideas?
by on 10/04/2011 12:21 PM | Reply #11 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
roll on bed liner somthing like rhino lining but cheaper brand. just get a six pack and roll away

Re: Finishing Out My Attached Garage...Ideas?
by on 10/04/2011 12:21 PM | Reply #12 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
Tim Sandstrom Said:

Again, I am not a tape and texture guy.  That requires extensiveexperiencee and skill.  It is the last thing you do before painting so it is one of the most important.  If not done well, it will be a eye sore for the rest of the garages life.  To get someone to come in mud and texture I'm sure is no less than 600 bucks now a days.  Probably closer to a $1,000 or more.

 

It's really not that hard and if you are spraying texture, your main mud lines dont need alot of "perfection" Probably a bit easier than you think, if I were closer and this was what you decided to do I would help you out. I find texturing messy fun! I know, I'm weird!
 

Good Luck and Good Fishin'

Eric T


Re: Finishing Out My Attached Garage...Ideas?
by on 10/04/2011 12:35 PM | Reply #13 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
I am in the samne boat, I think I am leaning towards the OSB painted. I know I will accidentally poke holes in the drywall one way or another, firewood ect. With the price of roll in insulation, I will blow in insulation for the cost savings, buy enough bails and Lowes gives you the machine for free and a monkey can do it, my son did the attic in the house and he was 14 at the time (dont judge me, he could fit through the vent outside). Proably go finished dry wall on the ceiling. Garage is also heated by a forced air oil furnance so running vehicles wont be an issue.

My biggest issue right now is how I am going to layout all my storage issues I have.
 

Good Luck and Good Fishin'

Eric T


Re: Finishing Out My Attached Garage...Ideas?
by on 10/04/2011 1:11 PM | Reply #14 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Location: ND
Tim,
My neighbor actually used painted tin on the ceiling with another 1.5 inches of insulation sheeting under it and used wood paneling on the sides. It looks awsome and he said it retains heat very very well with blown insulation in the crawl space.

Lots of options though...
Re: Finishing Out My Attached Garage...Ideas?
by on 10/04/2011 1:37 PM | Reply #15 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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I've seen some wood paneled garages and they do look nice.  Darkens em up a little though.  Not sure what colors I will do.  Kinda thinking a light colored grey would be nice.  White just shows everything.  Maybe light colored ceiling and white walls.  Not sure, garage probably too small to get away with that and looking decent.  Might just go all white and decorate with different colored totes and cabinents or whatever.




 
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Re: Finishing Out My Attached Garage...Ideas?
by on 10/04/2011 1:45 PM | Reply #16 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Tim Sandstrom Said:
Might just go all white and decorate with different colored totes and cabinents or whatever.
Dude, real mean dont use the word "Decorate" when talking about a garage aka man cave ect!!!! LOL J/K

 

Good Luck and Good Fishin'

Eric T


Re: Finishing Out My Attached Garage...Ideas?
by on 10/04/2011 1:47 PM | Reply #17 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Did someone actually use "decorate" in the same sentence as "garage"? 


Quick question on the blown in insulation.  How does a person do a vapor barrier if all you have to access is a vent or something you are using to blow in the insulation?
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Re: Finishing Out My Attached Garage...Ideas?
by on 10/04/2011 1:47 PM | Reply #18 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Dangit, Walynut types faster....
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Re: Finishing Out My Attached Garage...Ideas?
by on 10/04/2011 2:00 PM | Reply #19 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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walynut Said:
Tim Sandstrom Said:
Might just go all white and decorate with different colored totes and cabinents or whatever.
Dude, real mean dont use the word "Decorate" when talking about a garage aka man cave ect!!!! LOL J/K



In my opinion hanging a cabela's banner up is decorating.




 
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Re: Finishing Out My Attached Garage...Ideas?
by on 10/04/2011 2:03 PM | Reply #20 | "Quote" | "Quick Reply" |

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Tim Sandstrom Said:

In my opinion hanging a cabela's banner up is decorating.


Maybe, but if you value your possession of a man card, you would use the word "display".
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